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merrily

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1. I understand your concern. Bernie would a much better shot against Trump than would Hillary.

Mon Aug 17, 2015, 03:02 AM

Aug 2015

Supposedly, both Trump and Bernie are doing well because (1) neither can be bought by big business, Trump because he is rich enough to finance his own campaign, even if costs run to billions; and Bernie because only Big Voter is financing his campaign; (2) both say what is on their respective minds; and (3) neither is establishment. In my view, Hillary does win on any of those three issues.

Where Bernie handily trumps Trump is Bernie was not born on third bases. Hell, he was barely born in the ballpark; Bernie is not a beginner when it comes to public office; Bernie doesn't mouth off like an asshat and so on.

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So what's going to happen if next year's election turns out to be between Bernie and Trump? [View all] Kablooie Aug 2015 OP

I understand your concern. Bernie would a much better shot against Trump than would Hillary. merrily Aug 2015 #1

Trump is riding high in a field of 79 candidates Kennah Aug 2015 #2

Those who do not remember the past murielm99 Aug 2015 #3

Bernie wouldn't lose like Hillary would to Trump on issues like TPP and H-1B outsourcing cascadiance Aug 2015 #6

99% of the country are not engaged on either of those issues. The election will not turn on those stevenleser Aug 2015 #26

20 percent WERE turned to Ross Perot on those issues in 1992! cascadiance Aug 2015 #28

23 years ago. Congrats. Not today. nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #29

Why? You think people care less about their jobs being outsourced today than then? cascadiance Aug 2015 #31

NAFTA was a much more talked about issue then than TPP is today. There is close to zero buzz or stevenleser Aug 2015 #33

"We laughed at Reagan-therefore Bernie can't win" just doesn't make any sense demwing Aug 2015 #7

That is not what said and you know it. murielm99 Aug 2015 #20

You haven't established that Sanders is a weak candidate demwing Aug 2015 #22

They'll attack Sanders all day, but won't explain why. Picking Dem Aug 2015 #52

No more and no less than can Trump. All else is prophecy. LanternWaste Aug 2015 #24

well, Reagan had been governor of CA. Trump has no experience at all governing. CTyankee Aug 2015 #38

His comfort zone is in the spotlight. He's an attention whore and where he goes, nobody knows. Zen Democrat Aug 2015 #58

Sure, but he goes on to the next attention getting adventure... CTyankee Aug 2015 #66

Nobody could trot out that old Naderism about "Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum" parties Electric Monk Aug 2015 #4

......... trusty elf Aug 2015 #9

OY! Please, mercy, no more pic of Christie in his tightie whities... CTyankee Aug 2015 #39

Nader stole that one from the George Corley Wallace/Curtis LeMay 1968 campaign. Zen Democrat Aug 2015 #59

Very interesting debates and a Bernie landslide! Live and Learn Aug 2015 #5

Trump in a landslide vs Bernie ericson00 Aug 2015 #8

I'm becoming more and more concerned about Trump every day. I agree with your analysis. stevenleser Aug 2015 #27

And I agree with you Person 2713 Aug 2015 #46

Let me know when Trump gets CLOSE to 28k coming to see him at a local venue someplace... cascadiance Aug 2015 #32

Let me know when Bernie is leading the race for the nomination nationally. Because Trump is. stevenleser Aug 2015 #47

Or so corporate america and their monopoly in media has a vested interest in us believing! cascadiance Aug 2015 #53

No, that doesn't work. Unless you are also discounting Bernie's rise in polls in NH and Iowa. stevenleser Aug 2015 #56

Oh yes, you're noting that he'd beat the rest of the Republicans for the nomination... cascadiance Aug 2015 #62

He's not surging faster than Obama. Obama was 10 points down on Hillary by now, not 30 like Bernie stevenleser Aug 2015 #63

Every living Latino voter tavernier Aug 2015 #50

And yet considering all that he is pretty close to both Bernie and Hillary in the polling. stevenleser Aug 2015 #60

That's funny. truebluegreen Aug 2015 #54

If I said what I think will happen, one group will jump all over me liberal N proud Aug 2015 #10

Donald would protect us from foreigners but not the 1%. Bernie would protect us from our own 1% not pampango Aug 2015 #11

One thing we know! The winner would never get anything past Congress for 4 years! Sancho Aug 2015 #12

Even if you believe that, the executive orders and actions would be substantially different. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #14

Have you notices how Obama's executive orders and nominees have been blocked? Sancho Aug 2015 #15

'least effective' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #18

I'm not so sure. I think lots of Dems now for Hillary would go over to Bernie. CTyankee Aug 2015 #40

I think you have to be a good chunk below average intelligence to vote for Trump. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #13

Good question. tabasco Aug 2015 #16

Except, we weren't dumb, the presidency was stolen. ladyVet Aug 2015 #25

Do you see that number on the magazine cover? tabasco Aug 2015 #43

Bernie will win against Trump. If not, this country is screwed royally. nt kelliekat44 Aug 2015 #17

One good thing about the country choosing Trump over Sanders... Marr Aug 2015 #49

A quantum singularity will open and swallow the nation from sea to shining sea. Game over. randome Aug 2015 #19

ah others are joining me in this little foray nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #21

a tight race, boiling down to the standard swing states 0rganism Aug 2015 #23

It will be Uuge! rufus dog Aug 2015 #30

sanders would win JI7 Aug 2015 #34

More fun than I dare imagine HassleCat Aug 2015 #35

It would be fun. I don't 840high Aug 2015 #55

Even against one another, I'm not convinced either man could win an election. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2015 #36

Sanders by a landslide ... ananda Aug 2015 #37

It depends. Vinca Aug 2015 #41

Trump buys the election olddots Aug 2015 #42

On some issues they sound very similar...but Gloria Aug 2015 #44

A massive gender gap gives it to Bernie KamaAina Aug 2015 #45

Trump is Sanders' dream opponent. He's a cartoonish symbol of everything Sanders talks about. Marr Aug 2015 #48

Yep azmom Aug 2015 #61

Once Trump plays the video his team would create of Sanders self describing as a Socialist stevenleser Aug 2015 #64

After Trump shoots himself on the foot repeatedly, it'll be a epic landslide of all 50 states for... Picking Dem Aug 2015 #51

Seriously, there aren't enough Republican voters left to elect any of their candidates fairly Hydra Aug 2015 #57

Bernie will win. John Poet Aug 2015 #65