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In reply to the discussion: I am weary to my marrow of the deep moral and intellectual sickness of the right [View all]DirkGently
(12,151 posts)67. I was thinking of his recent "import tariff" proposals
There seem to be few things Trump relishes more than threatening to slap fees on other countrys goods. He proposed eliminating corporate taxes in favor of a 20% tax on imports and a 15% tax on American companies who outsource in his 2011 book Time To Get Tough. More recently, he has called for a 35% tax on Mexican auto imports and threatened to do something very severe to force Mexico to finance a border fence, possibly punitive tariffs. And when it comes to China, another favorite Trump bogeyman, he offered this memorable message in a 2011 speech: Listen, you motherfers, were going to tax you 25%!
Trump, like many populist politicians, is a fierce critic of free trade deals that like the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), which was signed by President Bill Clinton, and the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which is currently under negotiation. When it comes to aggressively raising tariffs, however, his proposals appear to be unique within the 2016 field in either party.
Theres not a lot of detail to Trumps suggestions, making them hard to fully evaluate, but trade experts from across the political spectrum warn that most of his threatened tariffs would violate decades of binding trade deals negotiated by previous administrations and agreed to by previous Congresses.
Trump, like many populist politicians, is a fierce critic of free trade deals that like the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), which was signed by President Bill Clinton, and the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which is currently under negotiation. When it comes to aggressively raising tariffs, however, his proposals appear to be unique within the 2016 field in either party.
Theres not a lot of detail to Trumps suggestions, making them hard to fully evaluate, but trade experts from across the political spectrum warn that most of his threatened tariffs would violate decades of binding trade deals negotiated by previous administrations and agreed to by previous Congresses.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-trump-wants-tax-the-world-even-legal
And the bit about petition Ford to cancel a plant in Mexico.
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/06/16/trump-press-ford-cancel-mexican-plant/28816173/
He's making an odd conservative / populist argument, which is not particularly well-thought-out, but I think it's this departure from the stock Republican playbook that's catching fire among conservatives.
It could -- COULD, mind you -- help fracture and dissolve the monolithic Republican rhetoric, in ways that I theorize could help.
Republicans have turned conservativism into pure corporatism, which really shouldn't be a thing among any large group of voters. There are more populist-minded conservatives out there, and if that switch gets flipped, we could -- conceivably -- gain more credence for policies that actually benefit the majority of Americans.
Maybe.
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I am weary to my marrow of the deep moral and intellectual sickness of the right [View all]
cali
Aug 2015
OP
Good rant. Keep in mind, when someone says "We can get Republican grassroots to vote for X candidate
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#2
You are preaching to the choir on that point. It's exactly why I do what I do where I do it.
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#7
I wasn't responding to you, but if you are curious Google is your friend. Nt
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#79
Nah, I don't really care that much but your post had kind of an implicit self important tone
tularetom
Aug 2015
#81
Even when they don't hold the views themselves, they tolerate them in the folks for whom they vote.
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#9
An interesting red herring but ultimately not related to the discussion. nt
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#22
Lots of Republican voters thought they were voting for fiscal conservatives or against union bosses
JDPriestly
Aug 2015
#38
A significant number of folks here have been saying Bernie will change their minds and get them to
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#10
Then your expectations are in the ballpark because if nominated he would get close to zero.
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#23
We can argue what Bernie is, but that doesn't matter, and YOU know that. It only matters what
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#28
You think so? Ask George Allen how easy it was to fight "Macaca" with video of him saying it.
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#34
And if Clinton wins the nomination, the Republicans will point out that she joined them
rhett o rick
Aug 2015
#61
That's a joke right? The last thing the GOP will mention is the Iraq war. nt
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#63
Yeah, in response to questions he clearly didn't want to answer. And he fumbled
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#72
So you admit the the GOP has already mentioned the Iraq War but still contend
rhett o rick
Aug 2015
#75
No, that is your strawman. GOP candidates were asked about it by reporters.
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#78
You said they wouldn't mention it and yet they did and I think they will again.
rhett o rick
Aug 2015
#84
Doesn't matter how many times you say the wrong thing, it's still wrong. Nt
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#89
How very untrue. Many Republicans are warming to the message of honesty that Sen Sanders
rhett o rick
Aug 2015
#60
Anyone falling for that, Chris Christie has a bridge he would like to sell you.
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#64
Thank you, cali. I do tire of protestations that republican X, Y or Z is a 'broken clock'. They are
pampango
Aug 2015
#11
I missed this post originally but this is a great point. Carter was 100% honest all the time. That
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#73
I think Sanders has been around Washington a good long time and will not face it naively.
hollysmom
Aug 2015
#74
The responsibility to change it comes from the left, which is divided, fearful, apathetic.
Gregorian
Aug 2015
#13
I thought Kasich had a modicum of sanity until his 'get rid of the teacher's lounges' comments.
panader0
Aug 2015
#46
if it weren't for the neoliberal and corporatist aspects of this party, republicans wouldnt be
HFRN
Aug 2015
#53
Advanced corruption always eventually rots and is replaced by new cleaner components. nt
ladjf
Aug 2015
#88