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In reply to the discussion: Well done. CNN (and DU) got their riot porn. [View all]2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)First. i am on my cell and it will only let me see so far down the page as I write. So much is written without being seen by me as I go so please keep that in mind.
I was at the protest. It was of good size but not the largest I have seen. The police presense was overkill and ridiculous. The chanting was lack luster, but we had been in the hot sun for hours prior to the protest. It was all quite peaceful til the end where the protest did not seem to end quite where we expected. The end was barricaded with only one small almost single file opening in the barricade. People were a bit confused. I felt cornered and exited.
The huge police presence was already in place and they did seem to me to be preparing for something they already knew was happening, or going to happen shortly. I could not see any of what went on in that barricade.
on the way home I met one of the veterans for peace that was there. He was quite upset but quiet and controlled. He said he was right there. "There was blood everywhere. They stormed the police horses" he said. "what!" I said. "they attacked the police horses. They charged them" I had not even seen the police on horseback.
He went on to tell me that the black bloc attacked the police. Charged them and throwing shit. Chaos ensued. He was sure of the black block being the guilty party. He said "they want to bring war in the streets to this country".
We cannot allow these few to be the meme of our peaceful protests. The next phase will look much like Egypt if we do not find a way to get them out of our protests.
The vet felt that there will be killing that will make Kent State look like childs play. "they're going to get someone killed" he said
There were kids at that protest. He said the medics took heavy casualties as they tried to assist the wounded.
i picked up a paper in Indiana (may have been Inpls star) that said the police said they had infiltrated the anarchist to spy on them. So now we know that they are in there. That would explain why the huge already in place police presence at the end and perhaps even why the huge media presence at the end.
I remember noticing two days before zucotti was busted, the sudden arrival of many many media trucks that had not been there before.
so I do think the police infiltrate and help plan the anarchist actions and I do believe they notify the media so the bad shit will be sure to be seen. However the anarchist are real, are not satisfied with us marching along like cows, and seek chaos.
some are in Occupy. If u want these protest to be successful., we must find a way to seperate from them. Otherwise we are a stones throw away fom being called insurgents.
the peaceful protest were gaining public support. As long as they are successful in violence at the protests, we will lose public support. (which I think is the plan of the powers that be.