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bigwillq

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6. There's some good cops and there's some bad cops.

Mon May 21, 2012, 12:08 PM

May 2012

Some are decent, some are corrupt.

Just like there are bad teachers and good teachers and corrupt politicians and clean ones.

I guess personal experience plays a role in how someone judges cops, or anyone for that matter.

Sometimes humans like to group folks together; sometimes fairly, sometimes not.

Cops dig their own grave when they use excessive force, and I think that's the impression many make about cops: That they abuse their power.

But I feel there are probably more good cops than bad ones out there. It's just that we usually hear more about the bad ones (as we should).

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So much hatred [View all] jehop61 May 2012 OP

Hmm, wonder what your take is on this pic: coalition_unwilling May 2012 #1

My take is that the guy he watched break a stick over another cops head, Rose Siding May 2012 #24

I'll just bet you have a tidy little police-brutality-enabling coalition_unwilling May 2012 #28

The poster was responding to a specific incident which YOU brought up. 11 Bravo May 2012 #35

He won that point. UnrepentantLiberal May 2012 #37

That's just splendid. Turning excessive force and police brutality coalition_unwilling May 2012 #48

You are on the right thread. randome May 2012 #50

Oh, no sports! ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #57

Well, I was in chess club in High School. Does that count? :) - n/t coalition_unwilling May 2012 #58

Ha! zappaman May 2012 #68

Omg! I know him from Occupy Austin Dragonbreathp9d May 2012 #91

You seem to be complaining about his use of facts... Cave_Johnson May 2012 #146

Looks like someone in the back of the crowd starting pushing, One cop started swinging. adigal May 2012 #39

Ah yes, jehop61 May 2012 #96

I Was Watching It Live On Channel 9... KharmaTrain May 2012 #97

Fuck em. and their fucking families too. CBGLuthier May 2012 #99

Fuck whom? The protesters? The police? And why "their families too"? coalition_unwilling May 2012 #104

So the cops' hatred for protesters and free speech doesn't bring tears to your eyes? Zalatix May 2012 #2

You wouuld think that people who have "scraped bodies off the pavement," Lionessa May 2012 #3

+1,000!!! Zalatix May 2012 #98

What? And get people to put down their broad brushes? Brickbat May 2012 #4

Oops. Iggo May 2012 #5

There's some good cops and there's some bad cops. bigwillq May 2012 #6

Thank you jehop61 May 2012 #21

I've met good police officers as well UnrepentantLiberal May 2012 #38

I agree SoutherDem May 2012 #7

That's the "few bad apples" argument. Bake May 2012 #52

What is the alternative? FrodosPet May 2012 #83

Lefties, righties, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEIR POLITICS ARE. Bake May 2012 #88

LEOs follow orders. Elect people who will change what those orders will be. freshwest May 2012 #147

I personally believe that Internal Affairs Divisions need to be abolished GObamaGO May 2012 #133

As long as the boards are well trained FrodosPet May 2012 #138

No, they're NOT "people like me." Bake May 2012 #8

Whatever the percentage, it still makes no sense to judge them all treestar May 2012 #11

How many police brutality stories must we endure? Bake May 2012 #12

It doesn't make the news when people do their job in ordinary circumstances treestar May 2012 #23

Then I repeat: the so-called "good ones" need to purge the "bad apples." Bake May 2012 #25

Then that applies to every profession there is treestar May 2012 #100

Doctors don't USUALLY go berserk and BEAT a homeless man TO DEATH. Bake May 2012 #109

that's not the issue treestar May 2012 #119

Yes, bad docs can and do kill people. Usually it's negligence, not malice. Bake May 2012 #120

Cops don't usually kill people, either. randome May 2012 #121

Cops may have saved lives on occasion treestar May 2012 #124

The whole bunch? I'm not condemning the whole bunch Bake May 2012 #125

Are you talking about some specific police force? treestar May 2012 #126

I've had traffic stops where the cop the was rude, overbearing, but thankfully not violent. Bake May 2012 #127

But you're going to need the cops after that treestar May 2012 #130

You're going to defend the cops, so fine. Bake May 2012 #137

Yep. It's the bad cops who spoil the reputations of the other hifiguy May 2012 #13

Or maybe you're being generous ... or optimistic. Bake May 2012 #14

How do you talk to them? ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #59

I say "yes sir" and "no sir" Bake May 2012 #67

Maybe that's part of the problem derby378 May 2012 #89

I don't disagree, but courtesy goes a long way Bake May 2012 #90

ANYBODY can get a sir or ma'am from me FrodosPet May 2012 #139

I use the latter two all the time derby378 May 2012 #140

By my book New York City has had exactly two good cops in the past two generations. backscatter712 May 2012 #29

Even the good ones are complicit. Bake May 2012 #31

You don't see them arresting the criminal cops. n/t backscatter712 May 2012 #33

Um, yeah. Sometimes you do. randome May 2012 #47

Thanks about Adrian Schoolcraft as this I did not know. PufPuf23 May 2012 #85

+2 rug May 2012 #145

right. When we hear story after story about how dana_b May 2012 #42

I've found most police officers to be reasonable, level-headed, and open-minded, but only after... slackmaster May 2012 #9

Funny, I've found them to assume (and act on) the worst possible assumptions. Bake May 2012 #16

Ha ha.....oh hahahahahaa......donuts ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #60

The donut crack was unfair, I admit it. Bake May 2012 #66

I wouldn't try..... ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #94

So I assume you adhere to the "bad apple" theory. Bake May 2012 #110

The problem is that during these protests they good ones do not stop the bad ones Marrah_G May 2012 #80

I'm not sure it's that simple. randome May 2012 #82

ANY supporter of the 1% who's of the 99%............. socialist_n_TN May 2012 #10

Just another hit-and-run poster. Atman May 2012 #15

At some point the police are going to have to make a choice Marrah_G May 2012 #17

My Coversation With Two Police otohara May 2012 #18

Post removed Post removed May 2012 #19

Yes those skulls are costing tax payers money to replace the broken batons. L0oniX May 2012 #20

I support cops. pintobean May 2012 #64

In that case zappaman May 2012 #69

I always thought you were pintobean May 2012 #73

To be fair... zappaman May 2012 #75

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I do? pintobean May 2012 #78

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No, it squats. pintobean May 2012 #81

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What you do in private pintobean May 2012 #86

You deserve a DUZY for that one... zappaman May 2012 #87

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Thank you John Edward zappaman May 2012 #113

No, really. Just look at Zappa's life, at his words. You're on the diametric opposite end of the DisgustipatedinCA May 2012 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author DisgustipatedinCA May 2012 #111

You have serious issues. pintobean May 2012 #128

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There are more than 581,000 police departments in this country. randome May 2012 #22

Are you sure your numbers are right?? That would mean each state has 10000 police departments??? adigal May 2012 #44

Pulled quickly from Yahoo so I haven't double-checked. randome May 2012 #45

If that is right, that is scary. 10000 police departments per state? Wow. n/t adigal May 2012 #49

It's basic math, and not at all "scary". PavePusher May 2012 #134

10,000 departments per state?? Not officers. Departments. n/t adigal May 2012 #135

This message was self-deleted by its author PavePusher May 2012 #141

When the mission of cops transmogrifies into protecting the property of the 1%, we get Keystone Kops WingDinger May 2012 #26

Yes, so much hatred. Why do cops hate the people they are paid to protect so much? sabrina 1 May 2012 #27

When Bloomberg is not overlord of the NYPD Rex May 2012 #32

A nice but extremely subjective post. Rex May 2012 #30

Principle IV Zorra May 2012 #34

Well, my husband was a NYC cop for 3 years before going to be adigal May 2012 #36

Uh, they very much DO hate protesters who are left of center and further. HughBeaumont May 2012 #40

Tea Party types don't congregate is as large a number as these protesters did. randome May 2012 #46

Police are just as susceptible to mob mentality as any other group. haele May 2012 #41

You're a lousy fiction writer just1voice May 2012 #43

Excellent response to a drive by, flame bait post. GoneOffShore May 2012 #51

+1,000,000,000 x 1,000,000,000 - n/t coalition_unwilling May 2012 #53

boofuckinghoo, sweetie. cali May 2012 #54

Reports of good cops are anecdotal evidence at this point. nt Comrade_McKenzie May 2012 #55

let us defund and see how many "heros" stick with it. TheKentuckian May 2012 #56

"let us defund" ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #62

Cops = teachers, gotcha. Zalatix May 2012 #101

They are both public employees ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #103

The right wing loves cops and hates teachers for a reason. Zalatix May 2012 #105

Actually, the right does not always love cops ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #106

Cops won't get chopped... who else can the Plutocrats call on for defense? Zalatix May 2012 #107

You can keep saying that all you want ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #108

Ok so who will the Plutocrats rely on for defense if they keep cutting the cops? Zalatix May 2012 #117

"Plutocrats" can hire their own security, they don't need government to arrange it for them ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #131

They may think they're safe, but they're not. Zalatix May 2012 #132

Congrats ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #136

The military? If things get bad enough. white_wolf May 2012 #123

We have too many cops. Not enough teachers. Comrade Grumpy May 2012 #115

They sure do and it works. Defunding the police would be orders of magnitude more successful TheKentuckian May 2012 #118

Cop hatred is a DU tradition. nt Skip Intro May 2012 #61

So long as citizen-beating is a cop tradition Union Scribe May 2012 #74

So much denial. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #63

Did you feel that way about the Egyptian police? The Syrian? Puregonzo1188 May 2012 #65

The UN estimates that about 10,000 people have been killed in the fighting in Syria since March 2011 RZM May 2012 #72

"have any of you ever thought..." oh, puh-lease! stlsaxman May 2012 #70

Police in the US are the muscle of the 1% Great Caesars Ghost May 2012 #71

lol fascisthunter May 2012 #76

Most cops suck- there are only a few good apples Dragonbreathp9d May 2012 #92

I hate all brutish bullies... 99Forever May 2012 #93

Not a lot of thoughtful responses in this thread, so --> daaron May 2012 #95

I have thought about the people behind the badge. raouldukelives May 2012 #102

I saw some stuff on Youtube heaven knows May 2012 #116

I have a really good friend who is a cop so TBF May 2012 #122

There really are plenty of good cops! Quantess May 2012 #142

I'll stop hating. Hatchling May 2012 #143

I've been with and following the Occupy movement closely since its birth Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #144

Another reason to stop hating on the cops Zalatix May 2012 #148