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leveymg

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5. Just because they don't let you know they're reading your email, doesn't mean you're not being

Reply to SoutherDem (Reply #3)

Mon May 21, 2012, 12:38 PM

May 2012

watched along with the rest of us. http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/20/whistleblower_the_nsa_is_lying_us

"National Security Agency whistleblower William Binney reveals he believes domestic surveillance has become more expansive under President Obama than President George W. Bush. He estimates the NSA has assembled 20 trillion 'transactions' — phone calls, emails and other forms of data — from Americans. This likely includes copies of almost all of the emails sent and received from most people living in the United States. Binney talks about Section 215 of the USA PATRIOT Act and challenges NSA Director Keith Alexander's assertion that the NSA is not intercepting information about U.S. citizens."

That may not be a problem for some people.

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On "police state" and "fascism" [View all] IDemo May 2012 OP

I have not experienced a police state or fascism personally. randome May 2012 #1

I have seen police excesses, which are systemic enough that I'd use the term "police state". backscatter712 May 2012 #11

I have read three books about the Nazi occupation of France and one about how it all sabrina 1 May 2012 #15

It only took 2 years for Hitler to build his Nazi state. Major Hogwash May 2012 #20

I don't believe I said the US was a police state. sabrina 1 May 2012 #22

The road to fascism is taken in small steps. The last step is to feel the heavy heel of the Lint Head May 2012 #2

I agree it is overly hyperbolic and historically inaccurate SoutherDem May 2012 #3

Just because they don't let you know they're reading your email, doesn't mean you're not being leveymg May 2012 #5

It's not a Police State - it's a Polite State kenny blankenship May 2012 #10

"Friendly Fascism" - that's a great book by Bertham Gross from the Reagan era. Hit it spot-on. leveymg May 2012 #17

Case in point here IDemo May 2012 #6

+100 Thank you 99th_Monkey May 2012 #16

OK, just the facts then davekriss May 2012 #7

Loss of habeas corpus, the Executive branch claiming it has a right to assassinate..... DeSwiss May 2012 #14

this a 'uniquely american' form of police state. and it's got to do with more than KG May 2012 #4

it's not a police state unless you just insist on exercising your rights kenny blankenship May 2012 #8

This is a polite way to remind those who rather not have their weddings and such interrupted by those midnight May 2012 #9

K&R DeSwiss May 2012 #12

Why are you quoting a Commie coalition_unwilling May 2012 #18

That's my kinda Commie!!! DeSwiss May 2012 #23

Also "police states" look very different in their infancy, youth and mature forms. wickerwoman May 2012 #13

Emphatic K&R! A magisterial OP - n/t coalition_unwilling May 2012 #19

But trying to downplay reality is their only option. We've just fallen too far Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #21