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Syzygy321

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55. Well... Sort of... But

Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:14 PM

Aug 2015

the religion is (a) the Quran and (b) stuff Mohammed said and did and (c) Sharia laws and interpretations developed in the middle ages and (d) the belief that (a) and (b) and (c) are pretty perfect and must not be messed with.

And (a) (b) and (c) all push pretty hard for legal m/f inequalities (different laws if you're a woman) , female inferiority and subordinance, wifely obedience, Allah loving the execution of people who have illicit sex, etc.

So it really IS the religion.

But the religion can change. I mean, Judaism isn't much different from Islam; it's just that most Jews don't care about laws, and even the super-extreme ones (Haredi etc) don't try to copy Solomon and have 400 wives.

So I have hope it will change, beciase someday (d) will change. And I think America might be the wellspring of that change.

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Things American Muslim women don't wanna hear from you [View all] Syzygy321 Aug 2015 OP

Okay, that's enough. Iggo Aug 2015 #1

in the winter here i wear hijabs. i have pashminis and wear them that way. DO IT! I roguevalley Aug 2015 #32

"Aren't you hot in that? Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #2

The naked and near naked desert tribes of Africa, Australia etc disagree with you riderinthestorm Aug 2015 #4

Good point. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #7

Have you ever worn one? Fawke Em Aug 2015 #18

I work outside every day. I've tried every type of garment available to stay cool riderinthestorm Aug 2015 #27

LOL. I hate being hot. I understand the "going naked" thing. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #30

In America and most Muslim lands the shrouding is extremely female-specific. And sexist. Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #9

Women in the Arabian peninsula covered before Islam came along. Or monotheism Recursion Aug 2015 #46

To my way of thinking, any person who would make any of those comments to someone they do not know Tipperary Aug 2015 #3

Well, I think it comes up more among Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #6

I work with two women who wear the head covering. We make polite co-worker chit-chat on a daily Tipperary Aug 2015 #8

Thanks. Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #10

I am gay and when I was younger, I had intrusive comments like that directed my way. Often they were Tipperary Aug 2015 #14

They also don't want to hear that I smoked pot in her back yard last weekend with her husband snooper2 Aug 2015 #5

No she wouldn't. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #19

In line at liquor store Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #11

In line at a liquor store! LOL! Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #12

I've heard similar directed to the Syrian family that runs a local convenience store pinboy3niner Aug 2015 #13

That's why I stick with "marhaba", particularly in the US (nt) Recursion Aug 2015 #47

Are you saying "White Guy" can not be a muslim or simply being polite? uppityperson Aug 2015 #16

It isn't a Hindu greeting Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #25

Yeah, Hindus vs. Muslims makes most other interfaith beefs look mild by comparison... nomorenomore08 Aug 2015 #37

Omg lol Oneironaut Aug 2015 #22

"The guy was probably just trying to be nice" awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #36

Depends upon where you are! REP Aug 2015 #15

I'm having trouble GummyBearz Aug 2015 #17

Oh I know the "stickup" comment was WRONG, Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #21

A hijab is cloth on head. It's only scary to idiots . Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #23

So you can draw a line between going too far or not, GummyBearz Aug 2015 #24

spare me. Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #26

Spare yourself GummyBearz Aug 2015 #28

I too thought the end of the post was out of place with the rest. Nt. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #39

"Things nobody, whoever they are, ever wants to hear from you". Nye Bevan Aug 2015 #20

How About "Does Your Male Guardian, Your Mahram, know... Herman4747 Aug 2015 #29

Why is it ok for you to be murdered if you refuse to enter an arranged marriage saturnsring Aug 2015 #33

Arranged marriage is common in a lot of cultures. LeftyMom Aug 2015 #41

I could try to answer that, but I am not sure you're interested Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #44

I am interested so please tell me ..... saturnsring Aug 2015 #49

Ok Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #50

Sounds like it's not part of the religion but men have adapted it as part of the religion in saturnsring Aug 2015 #53

Well... Sort of... But Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #55

Are you serious? Texasgal Aug 2015 #31

Is it OK to say "nice scarf" MurrayDelph Aug 2015 #34

Yes please! Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #35

Thank you for this. I just wish it wasn't necessary. Why is common courtesy so hard for some people? nomorenomore08 Aug 2015 #38

#6 is also NOYFB LeftyMom Aug 2015 #40

Of course they don't have to change, and the stickup Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #43

My neighbor seemed put off that I was cutting our shared hedge in shorts LeftyMom Aug 2015 #45

I am troubled that you came out so strong Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #48

I find it odd that you put refusing to shake hands with wanting gays executed in the same sentence uppityperson Aug 2015 #57

I hate PSA's. WinkyDink Aug 2015 #42

Re: 1--Where I live, the men and the boys wear shorts while the women wear full, floor-length niqab. Romulox Aug 2015 #51

So you "made a point of answering loudly, "Yes, hon, it does look scary." " Cal Carpenter Aug 2015 #52

You're right - it was immature. Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #54

Thinking a woman who has her face covered is scary is a "valid point". Wow. uppityperson Aug 2015 #58

My daughter was three. Yes: she was allowed to think it is scary Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #59

Wow. Who said anything about haranguing a 3 yr old? uppityperson Aug 2015 #60

Why did you tell your daughter a woman looks scary rather than taking the opportunity to educate her uppityperson Aug 2015 #56

"You don't *really* think God cares whether people eat a slice of bacon, do you?" KamaAina Aug 2015 #61

I would if I could KamaAina Aug 2015 #62

One through five were at least agreeable Jamastiene Aug 2015 #63