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Marrah_G

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80. The problem is that during these protests they good ones do not stop the bad ones

Mon May 21, 2012, 07:06 PM

May 2012

The good ones do not tell their bosses that violating civil rights is wrong.

I understand that they worry about incomes and benefits and pensions, but THEY need to understand that the elected officials, the big money donors, etc are NEVER going to be the ones who fight for their union rights. The people that WILL fight for them are the very ones that they are allowing to be treated badly. In the end if we do not stand together, we will surely fail.

As I watched the livestream from Occupy Boston, I could clearly see on the faces of many of the officers, especially the older ones, that they did not want to be there the night things went bad.

It doesn't have to be this way.

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So much hatred [View all] jehop61 May 2012 OP

Hmm, wonder what your take is on this pic: coalition_unwilling May 2012 #1

My take is that the guy he watched break a stick over another cops head, Rose Siding May 2012 #24

I'll just bet you have a tidy little police-brutality-enabling coalition_unwilling May 2012 #28

The poster was responding to a specific incident which YOU brought up. 11 Bravo May 2012 #35

He won that point. UnrepentantLiberal May 2012 #37

That's just splendid. Turning excessive force and police brutality coalition_unwilling May 2012 #48

You are on the right thread. randome May 2012 #50

Oh, no sports! ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #57

Well, I was in chess club in High School. Does that count? :) - n/t coalition_unwilling May 2012 #58

Ha! zappaman May 2012 #68

Omg! I know him from Occupy Austin Dragonbreathp9d May 2012 #91

You seem to be complaining about his use of facts... Cave_Johnson May 2012 #146

Looks like someone in the back of the crowd starting pushing, One cop started swinging. adigal May 2012 #39

Ah yes, jehop61 May 2012 #96

I Was Watching It Live On Channel 9... KharmaTrain May 2012 #97

Fuck em. and their fucking families too. CBGLuthier May 2012 #99

Fuck whom? The protesters? The police? And why "their families too"? coalition_unwilling May 2012 #104

So the cops' hatred for protesters and free speech doesn't bring tears to your eyes? Zalatix May 2012 #2

You wouuld think that people who have "scraped bodies off the pavement," Lionessa May 2012 #3

+1,000!!! Zalatix May 2012 #98

What? And get people to put down their broad brushes? Brickbat May 2012 #4

Oops. Iggo May 2012 #5

There's some good cops and there's some bad cops. bigwillq May 2012 #6

Thank you jehop61 May 2012 #21

I've met good police officers as well UnrepentantLiberal May 2012 #38

I agree SoutherDem May 2012 #7

That's the "few bad apples" argument. Bake May 2012 #52

What is the alternative? FrodosPet May 2012 #83

Lefties, righties, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEIR POLITICS ARE. Bake May 2012 #88

LEOs follow orders. Elect people who will change what those orders will be. freshwest May 2012 #147

I personally believe that Internal Affairs Divisions need to be abolished GObamaGO May 2012 #133

As long as the boards are well trained FrodosPet May 2012 #138

No, they're NOT "people like me." Bake May 2012 #8

Whatever the percentage, it still makes no sense to judge them all treestar May 2012 #11

How many police brutality stories must we endure? Bake May 2012 #12

It doesn't make the news when people do their job in ordinary circumstances treestar May 2012 #23

Then I repeat: the so-called "good ones" need to purge the "bad apples." Bake May 2012 #25

Then that applies to every profession there is treestar May 2012 #100

Doctors don't USUALLY go berserk and BEAT a homeless man TO DEATH. Bake May 2012 #109

that's not the issue treestar May 2012 #119

Yes, bad docs can and do kill people. Usually it's negligence, not malice. Bake May 2012 #120

Cops don't usually kill people, either. randome May 2012 #121

Cops may have saved lives on occasion treestar May 2012 #124

The whole bunch? I'm not condemning the whole bunch Bake May 2012 #125

Are you talking about some specific police force? treestar May 2012 #126

I've had traffic stops where the cop the was rude, overbearing, but thankfully not violent. Bake May 2012 #127

But you're going to need the cops after that treestar May 2012 #130

You're going to defend the cops, so fine. Bake May 2012 #137

Yep. It's the bad cops who spoil the reputations of the other hifiguy May 2012 #13

Or maybe you're being generous ... or optimistic. Bake May 2012 #14

How do you talk to them? ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #59

I say "yes sir" and "no sir" Bake May 2012 #67

Maybe that's part of the problem derby378 May 2012 #89

I don't disagree, but courtesy goes a long way Bake May 2012 #90

ANYBODY can get a sir or ma'am from me FrodosPet May 2012 #139

I use the latter two all the time derby378 May 2012 #140

By my book New York City has had exactly two good cops in the past two generations. backscatter712 May 2012 #29

Even the good ones are complicit. Bake May 2012 #31

You don't see them arresting the criminal cops. n/t backscatter712 May 2012 #33

Um, yeah. Sometimes you do. randome May 2012 #47

Thanks about Adrian Schoolcraft as this I did not know. PufPuf23 May 2012 #85

+2 rug May 2012 #145

right. When we hear story after story about how dana_b May 2012 #42

I've found most police officers to be reasonable, level-headed, and open-minded, but only after... slackmaster May 2012 #9

Funny, I've found them to assume (and act on) the worst possible assumptions. Bake May 2012 #16

Ha ha.....oh hahahahahaa......donuts ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #60

The donut crack was unfair, I admit it. Bake May 2012 #66

I wouldn't try..... ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #94

So I assume you adhere to the "bad apple" theory. Bake May 2012 #110

The problem is that during these protests they good ones do not stop the bad ones Marrah_G May 2012 #80

I'm not sure it's that simple. randome May 2012 #82

ANY supporter of the 1% who's of the 99%............. socialist_n_TN May 2012 #10

Just another hit-and-run poster. Atman May 2012 #15

At some point the police are going to have to make a choice Marrah_G May 2012 #17

My Coversation With Two Police otohara May 2012 #18

Post removed Post removed May 2012 #19

Yes those skulls are costing tax payers money to replace the broken batons. L0oniX May 2012 #20

I support cops. pintobean May 2012 #64

In that case zappaman May 2012 #69

I always thought you were pintobean May 2012 #73

To be fair... zappaman May 2012 #75

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I do? pintobean May 2012 #78

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No, it squats. pintobean May 2012 #81

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What you do in private pintobean May 2012 #86

You deserve a DUZY for that one... zappaman May 2012 #87

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Thank you John Edward zappaman May 2012 #113

No, really. Just look at Zappa's life, at his words. You're on the diametric opposite end of the DisgustipatedinCA May 2012 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author DisgustipatedinCA May 2012 #111

You have serious issues. pintobean May 2012 #128

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There are more than 581,000 police departments in this country. randome May 2012 #22

Are you sure your numbers are right?? That would mean each state has 10000 police departments??? adigal May 2012 #44

Pulled quickly from Yahoo so I haven't double-checked. randome May 2012 #45

If that is right, that is scary. 10000 police departments per state? Wow. n/t adigal May 2012 #49

It's basic math, and not at all "scary". PavePusher May 2012 #134

10,000 departments per state?? Not officers. Departments. n/t adigal May 2012 #135

This message was self-deleted by its author PavePusher May 2012 #141

When the mission of cops transmogrifies into protecting the property of the 1%, we get Keystone Kops WingDinger May 2012 #26

Yes, so much hatred. Why do cops hate the people they are paid to protect so much? sabrina 1 May 2012 #27

When Bloomberg is not overlord of the NYPD Rex May 2012 #32

A nice but extremely subjective post. Rex May 2012 #30

Principle IV Zorra May 2012 #34

Well, my husband was a NYC cop for 3 years before going to be adigal May 2012 #36

Uh, they very much DO hate protesters who are left of center and further. HughBeaumont May 2012 #40

Tea Party types don't congregate is as large a number as these protesters did. randome May 2012 #46

Police are just as susceptible to mob mentality as any other group. haele May 2012 #41

You're a lousy fiction writer just1voice May 2012 #43

Excellent response to a drive by, flame bait post. GoneOffShore May 2012 #51

+1,000,000,000 x 1,000,000,000 - n/t coalition_unwilling May 2012 #53

boofuckinghoo, sweetie. cali May 2012 #54

Reports of good cops are anecdotal evidence at this point. nt Comrade_McKenzie May 2012 #55

let us defund and see how many "heros" stick with it. TheKentuckian May 2012 #56

"let us defund" ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #62

Cops = teachers, gotcha. Zalatix May 2012 #101

They are both public employees ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #103

The right wing loves cops and hates teachers for a reason. Zalatix May 2012 #105

Actually, the right does not always love cops ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #106

Cops won't get chopped... who else can the Plutocrats call on for defense? Zalatix May 2012 #107

You can keep saying that all you want ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #108

Ok so who will the Plutocrats rely on for defense if they keep cutting the cops? Zalatix May 2012 #117

"Plutocrats" can hire their own security, they don't need government to arrange it for them ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #131

They may think they're safe, but they're not. Zalatix May 2012 #132

Congrats ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #136

The military? If things get bad enough. white_wolf May 2012 #123

We have too many cops. Not enough teachers. Comrade Grumpy May 2012 #115

They sure do and it works. Defunding the police would be orders of magnitude more successful TheKentuckian May 2012 #118

Cop hatred is a DU tradition. nt Skip Intro May 2012 #61

So long as citizen-beating is a cop tradition Union Scribe May 2012 #74

So much denial. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #63

Did you feel that way about the Egyptian police? The Syrian? Puregonzo1188 May 2012 #65

The UN estimates that about 10,000 people have been killed in the fighting in Syria since March 2011 RZM May 2012 #72

"have any of you ever thought..." oh, puh-lease! stlsaxman May 2012 #70

Police in the US are the muscle of the 1% Great Caesars Ghost May 2012 #71

lol fascisthunter May 2012 #76

Most cops suck- there are only a few good apples Dragonbreathp9d May 2012 #92

I hate all brutish bullies... 99Forever May 2012 #93

Not a lot of thoughtful responses in this thread, so --> daaron May 2012 #95

I have thought about the people behind the badge. raouldukelives May 2012 #102

I saw some stuff on Youtube heaven knows May 2012 #116

I have a really good friend who is a cop so TBF May 2012 #122

There really are plenty of good cops! Quantess May 2012 #142

I'll stop hating. Hatchling May 2012 #143

I've been with and following the Occupy movement closely since its birth Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #144

Another reason to stop hating on the cops Zalatix May 2012 #148