General Discussion

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)

26. I'll take a stab. My daughters trained in artifacts, not skeletons

Tue Sep 8, 2015, 10:43 PM

Sep 2015

Her masters is from York - the top medieval Viking arch school out there.

The focus was all on the artifacts, not the skeleton. The interpretation was about the brooches, swords, jewels, number of slaves buried with a lord, placement of the artifacts etc. The patriarchy was just assumed. The skeletons were male. Even as "far" back as 2009 when she got her degree. She'd no more question the skeletons were male than question that the helmets did NOT include horns.

Her most recent (independent) research is @ Viking winter camps with her GIS specialist boyfriend. They're collaborating on finding buried Viking winter camps in England and Europe. A melding of new technologies.

Someone decided to explore the skeletons and voila!

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

61 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Shield maidens were not a myth! [View all] riderinthestorm Sep 2015 OP

Oh yeah? Oh yeah? Then why were they called vi KINGS, huh? orange you glad Sep 2015 #1

The root of the word is Vik....a bay Demeter Sep 2015 #48

Roger Corman was right! TlalocW Sep 2015 #2

Female Viking Jazz dancers are HAWT !!! Monk06 Sep 2015 #40

So was Hammer Films! Tom Kitten Sep 2015 #50

In Northern Britian, the Picts KT2000 Sep 2015 #3

That would distract me DashOneBravo Sep 2015 #7

Keira Knightley and KT2000 Sep 2015 #8

Sounds like a great society GummyBearz Sep 2015 #4

Lagertha approves this message. bluedigger Sep 2015 #5

My oldest is a medieval archaeologist specializing in Vikings riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #6

what a fascinating vocation! grasswire Sep 2015 #11

Her passion isn't related to our genealogy but yup, she's pretty incredible riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #13

That's how I feel about "Call the Midwife" XemaSab Sep 2015 #12

I love that show (and am in love with Lagertha, rawr) but those FIGHT SEQUENCES! Scootaloo Sep 2015 #16

Off topic but couldn't resist replying because of the sheer coincidence/timing. right as I read this Ghost in the Machine Sep 2015 #43

Scythian horse cultures had women warriors. It's believed that this is where the Greeks Cleita Sep 2015 #9

I'm pleased the forensics are bearing out old stories riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #10

And Boudicca too! druidity33 Sep 2015 #21

Also, Boudicca is a historical character, not a myth. Cleita Sep 2015 #39

Sichelgaita also LittleBlue Sep 2015 #22

And maybe just maybe they are not myths at all since jwirr Sep 2015 #31

and they abducted--uh, Chechnyan men? MisterP Sep 2015 #35

k and r with thanks. niyad Sep 2015 #14

Why would anyone ID a skeleton by burial artifacts instead of just looking at the bones? Thor_MN Sep 2015 #15

Societal patriarchy imo. Even my own hard core feminist daughter fell prey to this riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #17

Hi Tree-Hugger Sep 2015 #53

GIS is short for geographic information systems riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #55

Oh wow! Tree-Hugger Sep 2015 #59

Grave goods are important signifiers of status, position, and profession Scootaloo Sep 2015 #19

Yes, and have been proven here to misidentify the gender of soldiers... Thor_MN Sep 2015 #32

+10 million! Forensic archaeology is the new hot field nt riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #33

I'm puzzled by that, too. Mister Ed Sep 2015 #20

I'll take a stab. My daughters trained in artifacts, not skeletons riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #26

If you have a perfectly intact, perfectly preserved pelvis, then yep, it's easy to tell. Calista241 Sep 2015 #45

I read somewhere that 1% of medieval samurai... Nevernose Sep 2015 #18

Onna-bugeisha LittleBlue Sep 2015 #24

I don't think that Japanese historians have forgotten that Art_from_Ark Sep 2015 #47

I was trying to find a polite way Nevernose Sep 2015 #54

Let's hear it for proto-feminist looters & pillagers! Woo-hoo! nt Chef Eric Sep 2015 #23

Riders in the storm.... Ron Obvious Sep 2015 #25

Heh. Pnwnd. I WAS listening to the Doors when I signed up here riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #28

Nobody should die at 27 Ron Obvious Sep 2015 #29

I love reading stories about onna bugeisha yuiyoshida Sep 2015 #27

Walkures... however, are still a myth AlbertCat Sep 2015 #30

Boob armor... ::facepalm:: n/t TygrBright Sep 2015 #36

Costumes for stage.... daleanime Sep 2015 #37

That's gonna piss the neo-Odinist pagan dudes off... right on! n/t TygrBright Sep 2015 #34

Not really 1939 Sep 2015 #41

Recs without a Kick orange you glad Sep 2015 #38

I'm such a dummy! I thought 'shield maidens' meant... pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #42

rec & kick MerryBlooms Sep 2015 #44

A friend of my daughter's is a member of the SWAT team in Rotterdam SwissTony Sep 2015 #46

I've always been very careful of women with knives. bvar22 Sep 2015 #49

Kind of odd HassleCat Sep 2015 #51

Maybe they didn't recognize them as women. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #52

Does this mean women were raping, burning, murdering, and looting? IronLionZion Sep 2015 #56

K&R!!!!!! burrowowl Sep 2015 #57

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #58

Kick!!!! nt Tree-Hugger Sep 2015 #60

This article is way off base in relation to the original paper. Codeine Sep 2015 #61