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s-cubed

(1,385 posts)
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:18 AM Sep 2015

On the trolling concerning transgender women using the women's bathroom. [View all]

Almost 29 years ago, one of my employees came out to me as a transgender man. I say this only to establish that I have some experience here. (I didn't even know the word at the time).

Notice that the "concerns" are almost always about transgender women using a women's bathroom. This is a red flag to me, that we are still in a patriarchical society. A society which looks at women as possessions to be guarded. A society that protected women, versus guarded, would do much more to prevent sexual assault of women and children.

That said, I will say that bathroom use was a major issue in the case of my employee. My company was wonderful in how they helped ease the transition. My employee voluntarily chose to allow an open presentation and discussion, and to voluntarily restrict his use to a few bathrooms. Note I said, voluntarily. The company would have backed him if he had not chosen this.

I think there is little evidence of transgender women being a threat to other women, but there is certainly danger for a transgender person using a men's bsthroom.

I have been in places which have had unisex bathrooms, equipped with completely enclosed stalls, no separate public urinals. Some public facilities have changed their labels on separate bathrooms to include both genders, rather than one for each. (I've always wondered why men wanted to urinals so publicly). There are solutions which ensure the safety and dignity of transgender people, but there has to be the will to use them.

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Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #1
would you consider editing? gollygee Sep 2015 #3
Jury results. merrily Sep 2015 #4
That jury is why DU stinks like rotten eggs. Every fucking morning it is insulting OP's about LGBT. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #10
And, as I predicted when the jury system rolled out - Ms. Toad Sep 2015 #12
I am not so sure about civility, either, anymore. merrily Sep 2015 #18
It worked reasonably well in the beginning. Ms. Toad Sep 2015 #19
I am very sorry about that. Bad enough to face stuff IRL, where you must contend with all merrily Sep 2015 #20
Fuckin' A right. Iggo Sep 2015 #14
The jury system sucks CBGLuthier Sep 2015 #13
Nailed it. n/t JTFrog Sep 2015 #17
The concern isn't a concern, so you can save your concern. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #5
Thank you. n/t Ms. Toad Sep 2015 #8
You do know that taking pictures like that in the bathroom is illegal now. Goblinmonger Sep 2015 #9
Nonsense. Ms. Toad Sep 2015 #11
Common TERF argument Tree-Hugger Sep 2015 #15
Common bigoted and transphobic argument, period n/t kcr Sep 2015 #23
Very, very true nt Tree-Hugger Sep 2015 #24
The solution is already in place in several states. Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #2
What an incredibly brave thing to have done 29 years ago. As we evolve into better humans, unisex merrily Sep 2015 #6
Your definition of a "normal man" is a sex offender? johnp3907 Sep 2015 #7
What transphobic people don't realize Tree-Hugger Sep 2015 #16
I'm still trying to figure out how anyone would know if someone was transgender in the first place. Vinca Sep 2015 #21
And that's pretty much what the 'concern trolls' are calling for. Lancero Sep 2015 #22
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