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In reply to the discussion: Thinking about leaving the DU? [View all]DonCoquixote
(13,977 posts)Part of why sleaze prospers is because they know that, even if you heal the wounds, sooner or later, your body tells your brain "Jeesh, it is not worth it, we have to get out of here before we get a stroke!"
I say, please, let's not give this over to the bad guys, and yes, I do not care where said sleaze is a sincere clinton/sanders/socialist/centrist/anarchist insert affiliation here, when the sleaze says "I do not care who I have to hurt or how I have to do it" then they are a discredit to their cause, and someone that will indeed, reap the whirlwind, because in time, the very people they need to survive will either be too afraid to offer food and aid, or simply think they can take their place. As far as the outright paid ops, we cannot pretend they are not there: one trip to Freeperland or DI will show these people lighting cigars and pouring champagne while stitching their sock puppets.
I do not care what you think, feel, or believe, I care what you DO. There are many people who frankly, I should be politically at war with, but because they have been kind and willing to listen, they are the people I fight for on DU. Likewise, politically, I should be a Sanders supporter, but seeing the yes, outright RACIST behavior that has been shown because of some activists in Seattle is DISGUSTING. I wish Bernie would return every cent you gave him, because of he knew who some of his supporters were, I think he would, as well as give a fine jeremiad castigating them for attitudes.
But the key thing is to DO, to make sure that the cranks and bullies and "ratf**ers" do NOT run the show, because unless people make a stand, they will. Our goal should be to be the ones who survive, so when all the "idealists" and "pragmatists" are floating on their little bit of flotsam, we will stand together on our raft, but this time, we will make it VERY clear that whoever we let onto the boat does NOT try to become captain. The left, right and center all have plenty of people who have allowed their ideals to sink because they want to WIN, well, they win battles, but it is those of us that no matter what, actually care for others, and our own integrity, that survive wars.