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Bill USA

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93. I think losing "politics 2015" may have something to do with this impression re trolls (or twits)

Thu Sep 10, 2015, 04:30 PM

Sep 2015

as I wrote here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7157812

With the loss of "Politics 2015", basically, the only place you've got to go, if you want to post something on politics but it's NOT about Democratic Primaries --- is Gen Disc. Now, re GD I lost interest long ago on posting to that forum, if I thought the issue/event I was posting about warrented serious consideration - as there are rather more air-heads (people who just don't want to have a sensible discussion about anything) on GD than to my own liking. Now, if I am posting something that isn't that serious, something laughable, sure I will post to GD but I preferred to use "Politics 2015" for more serious, 'grown-up' consideration/discussions.

I think it was a mistake to eliminate "Politics 2015" for those who want to discuss political events/issues but really are looking for a fairly serious (e.g. grown-up) consideration/discussion of issues/events posted about. Frankly, not haveing a place for serious discussion of political issues/events is killing DU.

Just my 'take' on it. I think DU would be better if we still had "Politics 2015" or something similar as a place for those who want to present/discuss issues and events in a reasonably serious manner.

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Thinking about leaving the DU? [View all] retrowire Sep 2015 OP

DU being overrun with trolls and disrupters has nothing to do with politics. nt onehandle Sep 2015 #1

politics has always been full of trolls. n/t retrowire Sep 2015 #3

And there are ways to deal with them. onehandle Sep 2015 #4

given up? retrowire Sep 2015 #7

One effective way to deal with trolls... bvar22 Sep 2015 #125

this so bad. n/t retrowire Sep 2015 #130

+1 Bubzer Sep 2015 #230

This is the time-honored way of dealing with trolls. senz Sep 2015 #238

I wouldn't say "given up" RussBLib Sep 2015 #10

exactly! retrowire Sep 2015 #19

sounds like good advice, not giving up notadmblnd Sep 2015 #62

you mean they won't pre-emptively declare the primaries over and boot all non-Hillary supporters? Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #122

So what you are saying is all trolls and disrupters are non-Hillary supporters. onehandle Sep 2015 #145

No, I've done terms on MIRT. Trolls and disruptors are generally dealt with effectively. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #150

Good post. You are absolutely right PatrickforO Sep 2015 #165

I've done MIRT too. Constant discussion of 'passing up' people out of reach of MIRT. onehandle Sep 2015 #172

Confirmed your suspicion of what? There's no great secret, MIRT isnt tasked with going after long time Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #192

Since you clearly don't know what 'passing up' means... onehandle Sep 2015 #196

I believe the term we used was "kicking upstairs", actually. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #204

I've experienced nothing like that. It's very business like, and efficient. onehandle Sep 2015 #217

oh my.... Bubzer Sep 2015 #231

Very true. zentrum Sep 2015 #65

Puhleazeee, handle RobertEarl Sep 2015 #11

thank you passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #39

It is getting old, isn't it? RobertEarl Sep 2015 #54

Old, yes, but not unexpected passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #56

Yeah, I got carried away the other day. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #166

...^ that 840high Sep 2015 #92

I think losing "politics 2015" may have something to do with this impression re trolls (or twits) Bill USA Sep 2015 #93

I said nothing like that. It's interesting that so many in this thread... onehandle Sep 2015 #147

Quote from reply #1: RobertEarl Sep 2015 #188

You and others claimed that I was saying 'not agreeing' = troll and disrupters activity. onehandle Sep 2015 #195

Put them on ignore. roody Sep 2015 #52

Put them on ignore and not be able to call some one an asshole notadmblnd Sep 2015 #64

Who? People who disagree with one's presidential choice are not JDPriestly Sep 2015 #61

^^^ This ^^^ Tommymac Sep 2015 #113

I said nothing even near that. You seem to be saying that. onehandle Sep 2015 #146

This is so deep that senz Sep 2015 #236

The poster that spams the board with "scoreboard" posts of national polling.. frylock Sep 2015 #77

That's what you think is disruption? onehandle Sep 2015 #148

What other reason would there be to post national polling of a primary election.. frylock Sep 2015 #160

good advice still_one Sep 2015 #2

Don't conflate message boards with the Party or the voting booth. merrily Sep 2015 #5

yeah i just corrected that broad statement. n/t retrowire Sep 2015 #6

+1 Gormy Cuss Sep 2015 #8

This AuntPatsy Sep 2015 #13

Nah. When I use board tools like Ignore and Trash Thread, I have an enjoyable closeupready Sep 2015 #9

you're doing it right. :) n/t retrowire Sep 2015 #12

I like what you are saying, problem is the jury system cant work for everyone, only the majority randys1 Sep 2015 #14

i too am a white male that agrees that the powers that be retrowire Sep 2015 #18

The rule here is Democrats only, I am pretty sure. Now not all Democrats are liberals, and that randys1 Sep 2015 #21

i read an idea about making those being judged anonymous. retrowire Sep 2015 #22

Better than what we have now, for sure...What I would do is appoint mods, and the rule would be randys1 Sep 2015 #28

Avoid the accusatory and very personal "you." JDPriestly Sep 2015 #82

Very true! Bubzer Sep 2015 #232

But I looked up the posts that 1StrongBlackMan was JDPriestly Sep 2015 #234

I usually try to see the entire thread so that I know the context JDPriestly Sep 2015 #76

totally agree. n/t retrowire Sep 2015 #97

That really does not help with civility at all. Alert on the other posts in the thread if you think seaglass Sep 2015 #99

When we had moderation awoke_in_2003 Sep 2015 #152

Often, though, the baby got tossed out with the bathwater. MADem Sep 2015 #205

+1 Bubzer Sep 2015 #233

I'd be fine with that awoke_in_2003 Sep 2015 #239

There's not only one way to be a liberal. Nitram Sep 2015 #47

So if there are hundreds of right leaning, non liberal members here at a board dedicated randys1 Sep 2015 #85

Is that what I said? Nitram Sep 2015 #222

How does one know how liberal or not liberal jury members are? notadmblnd Sep 2015 #81

sigh randys1 Sep 2015 #84

Is that your way of saying that you are unable explain it to me? notadmblnd Sep 2015 #91

They may have changed the rule, bvar22 Sep 2015 #134

And women who feel driven to out-macho the white heterosexual men? Divernan Sep 2015 #50

Oy, it NEVER stops randys1 Sep 2015 #83

Just come out and say it awoke_in_2003 Sep 2015 #155

What does that even mean? Lisa D Sep 2015 #223

The jury system is a problem. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #67

I was going to stop serving on juries awoke_in_2003 Sep 2015 #142

When on a jury, Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #201

I tend to lean that way, unless blatant awoke_in_2003 Sep 2015 #202

Perhaps there is a reason for your difficulties with some posters. kiva Sep 2015 #167

There is right and wrong on race, period. I know where I stand. randys1 Sep 2015 #227

Everytime I announce I'm going to leave, don't listen to me. mmonk Sep 2015 #15

+1 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #200

That's it! I am leaving right now ...damn it all. L0oniX Sep 2015 #235

Ahhhh. You're onto me. mmonk Sep 2015 #240

I have been here for 10 years. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #16

keep fighting. don't give up. otherwise they win. n/t retrowire Sep 2015 #20

I am with Starry on this - TBF Sep 2015 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author retrowire Sep 2015 #24

I think that is something only the admins TBF Sep 2015 #30

How in the world did someone get her home address from DU? LittleBlue Sep 2015 #78

Real what? Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author retrowire Sep 2015 #37

It's a real letter I have no doubt, cwydro Sep 2015 #58

are you implying Braveneck faked the letter? It would seem so. bettyellen Sep 2015 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author retrowire Sep 2015 #60

+1000 Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #26

They did win. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #25

you're still here aren't you? retrowire Sep 2015 #27

I'm leaving a message so people know why we are leaving, in case they care. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #32

They (you) win WHAT?? Yes, I'm leaving, but no, you haven't won much. Squinch Sep 2015 #151

If you think this is an "us vs them" scenario, then that's your weakness. We're equals in my eyes. retrowire Sep 2015 #153

Something terrible happened to a person who posts here. You have pooh-poohed it and discounted it. Squinch Sep 2015 #159

So, being a skeptic who doesn't take things at face value makes me the problem? retrowire Sep 2015 #162

No, you're not going to let a letter divide you from other people...you're just going to accuse the Squinch Sep 2015 #169

The letter is real, or not. That's my final position. n/t retrowire Sep 2015 #170

You've accused her of faking it all over this thread. THAT's your final position. Squinch Sep 2015 #171

Thanks for speaking for me. retrowire Sep 2015 #173

Oh, you've spoken for yourself just fine. I think we all know exactly what you are saying. Squinch Sep 2015 #174

New final position. retrowire Sep 2015 #175

Gosh, we've all been waiting with baited breath for you to come around. Squinch Sep 2015 #176

I'm glad you're relieved. retrowire Sep 2015 #177

I am appalled at the way Bravenak is being treated around this, and you are one of the Squinch Sep 2015 #178

no skin off my back. stay cool. n/t retrowire Sep 2015 #179

I feel as you do, chervilant Sep 2015 #218

Yes, it is time. Been time. Homework time. ancianita Sep 2015 #51

+10000. YoungDemCA Sep 2015 #53

I doubt if that was a federal crime hfojvt Sep 2015 #57

I'm on the other end of the spectrum KentuckyWoman Sep 2015 #186

I hope Waiting For Everyman Sep 2015 #212

+1000 Lisa D Sep 2015 #224

This. geardaddy Sep 2015 #226

When is/was the world NOT falling apart? n/t PasadenaTrudy Sep 2015 #17

People were pretty upbeat before that whole Crimean War thing. <G> -nt Freelancer Sep 2015 #36

*snort* dorkzilla Sep 2015 #43

I realize I'm coming at this from a "data" viewpoint erronis Sep 2015 #29

I was just invited to another board JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #33

I'm staying, but if you go, JAG, mountain grammy Sep 2015 #70

Thank you mg JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #124

Thanks for this. lark Sep 2015 #34

Most people are immovable, impenetrable & impervious. Why lean against immovable objects? Freelancer Sep 2015 #35

Well said. gregcrawford Sep 2015 #38

Good post, retrowire! dorkzilla Sep 2015 #40

Nobody is leaving... Helen Borg Sep 2015 #42

I'm leaving... meaculpa2011 Sep 2015 #44

yep that is real easy on these internets dembotoz Sep 2015 #48

If you get tombstoned, you'd become "name removed" ms liberty Sep 2015 #187

Good advice. DU is a good place to hash out all that can't be hashed out with family or friends. ancianita Sep 2015 #45

well said! n/t retrowire Sep 2015 #59

This stuff has gone on here for years and will go on for years. Give it no nevermind. marble falls Sep 2015 #46

You can check out anytime you want, but you can never leave... liberal N proud Sep 2015 #49

"On a dark desert highway..." great tune, thanks saidsimplesimon Sep 2015 #229

The only thing we have to fear is�. world wide wally Sep 2015 #55

A calm voice in the storm calling for all hands on deck Android3.14 Sep 2015 #63

Tried the "stay, learn, teach, and "fight" " route - although trying not to really fight. George II Sep 2015 #66

I try to remember that this is a message board. hamsterjill Sep 2015 #68

If I may offer my two cents DonCoquixote Sep 2015 #69

PS: sleaze DonCoquixote Sep 2015 #73

Never bothers me... brooklynite Sep 2015 #71

I'm not planning on going anywhere, but... HuckleB Sep 2015 #72

It's been clear to me since I joined that this is a board for white men, and so long as your Sheldon Cooper Sep 2015 #74

I Wish I Could Favorite Your Post lib87 Sep 2015 #228

leaving no banned hope not captainarizona Sep 2015 #75

Especially seeing as how this latest incident probably isn't even real. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2015 #79

I'm a sanders supporter retrowire Sep 2015 #86

I don't think anybody would not foresee that getting posted. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2015 #88

but someone said there's photo proof retrowire Sep 2015 #90

It isn't hard Waiting For Everyman Sep 2015 #94

good point. retrowire Sep 2015 #96

I agree. n/t Waiting For Everyman Sep 2015 #104

Agree. 840high Sep 2015 #199

The sender sent two letters. Realizing he had written the wrong address on one. boston bean Sep 2015 #163

The person who did is probably high fiving his wonderfulself this very moment. boston bean Sep 2015 #161

Sorry, logic has absolutely no place in this discussion Fumesucker Sep 2015 #89

You're welcome. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2015 #100

This was a very 840high Sep 2015 #105

Agree. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2015 #117

yep. false flag operation. not a very good one either Doctor_J Sep 2015 #135

Makes me feel so sad. Sanders is 840high Sep 2015 #137

That's ridiculous gollygee Sep 2015 #110

Not jedi, pretty simplistic actually. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2015 #115

Nasty and mean is one thing, stupid is another Fumesucker Sep 2015 #141

I doubt the person's user name is Mr. Citizen gollygee Sep 2015 #168

I'm quite skeptical of this "letter" myself. Just doesn't Purveyor Sep 2015 #121

A fucking lunatic would. boston bean Sep 2015 #156

It was posted publicly on this site, Waiting For Everyman Sep 2015 #203

when i read the letter i thought the same thing questionseverything Sep 2015 #185

I would like to point out to everyone that I did a search through a search engine. I came up with LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #190

Yeah, no, the way BLM was treated here... joshcryer Sep 2015 #208

Yes, leaving DU would be a mistake for me. salib Sep 2015 #80

I don't understand eliminating "Politics 2015". THis leaves pretty much only Gen Disc for political Bill USA Sep 2015 #87

Didn't you know? You can checkout anytime you want, but you can never leave. nt Rex Sep 2015 #95

But Some Will Always Try Marty McGraw Sep 2015 #237

When stalkers are invading people's privacy... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #98

what if the purpose of that letter is to only scare people? n/t retrowire Sep 2015 #101

A prudent person would be scared if people who could conceivably harm them had their address. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #106

would a brave person be considered a fool then? n/t retrowire Sep 2015 #107

No matter how brave a person is he or she can't protect him or herself from threats they can't see. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #112

Then I guess I'm a fool. retrowire Sep 2015 #164

End of message amigo! Nt. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #183

Thanks! ....eom retrowire Sep 2015 #184

I just got blocked from the African American group vlyons Sep 2015 #102

Don't feel bad. Par for the course. 840high Sep 2015 #108

There's having an opinion, and then there's being a jerk about it. nomorenomore08 Sep 2015 #181

I sure hope you're right about that. Number23 Sep 2015 #209

You deserved it, too. Your message was mocking, not innocuous. MADem Sep 2015 #114

No, you got blocked for more than that and you know it. leftofcool Sep 2015 #129

No, actually I don't vlyons Sep 2015 #193

Innocuous? mcar Sep 2015 #143

Certain AA posters don't feel safe here anymore NuclearDem Sep 2015 #149

Learn? Learn what? That the troll to DUer ratio is approaching ten to one? MADem Sep 2015 #103

This message was self-deleted by its author 840high Sep 2015 #109

I'm still thinking about it. blackspade Sep 2015 #111

Nope, I'm not thinking about leaving DU. cwydro Sep 2015 #116

good to hear! n/t retrowire Sep 2015 #118

I'm outta here fuckers! Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2015 #119

I left to get groceries. Did you miss me? 840high Sep 2015 #138

I have had to take breaks from here PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #120

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Anyone who posts here must give a rat's butt... Or a rats ass Autumn Sep 2015 #140

I'll be the last one here. bvar22 Sep 2015 #126

Rest assured, I serve on a lot of juries.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #127

AsahinaKimi is not on as much... yuiyoshida Sep 2015 #128

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No, damn it! They'll have to THROW ME OFF Warpy Sep 2015 #132

Humans are the most dangerous when Faux pas Sep 2015 #133

I'm gonna follow your lead! n/t retrowire Sep 2015 #136

Let me know how it goes Faux pas Sep 2015 #219

If people don't stop alerting on everything that offends their delicate sensibilities... AOR Sep 2015 #139

True. n/t retrowire Sep 2015 #154

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Each individual DUer sets their own temp in the kitchen Kaleva Sep 2015 #144

This is a good way to put it. retrowire Sep 2015 #158

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If I can't post in my chosen Group without being hidden because I am Gloria Sep 2015 #182

"And you don't make the best decisions in an echo chamber ..." NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #189

Oh alright then. retrowire Sep 2015 #191

"Go ahead and leave if you really intend to ... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #194

Then why are you here? 840high Sep 2015 #198

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I so remember 2004................... raven mad Sep 2015 #207

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such a wise post Liberal_in_LA Sep 2015 #211

To the OP's question PJMcK Sep 2015 #213

i'm thinking about leaving DU. barbtries Sep 2015 #214

+1 nt steve2470 Sep 2015 #215

No, but... steve2470 Sep 2015 #216

Everyone has the same tools available to control their own experience her at the DU Capt. Obvious Sep 2015 #220

thanks captain obvious! retrowire Sep 2015 #221