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In reply to the discussion: So tell me, ...what did this guy do to deserve it? [View all]sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)We have seven months worth of video, some of it used to prove the cops were lying last week, showing who is responsible for the violence at all of these protests. What is it that you are disagreeing with here?? The cops bring the violence every time and there is irrefutable evidence that this is the case.
Please show me an hour even, of video showing protesters who started any of the violence at any of these protests. Not Black Bloc btw, they are not OWS.
OWS is a non-violent, peaceful movement, understanding that they get their support by NOT being violent and knowing also that each time the cops beat up an old lady and are filmed doing so, which they have been, that gets more support for the movement.
Iow, their non-violent stance is a TACTIC. That is why what you are saying makes zero sense.
You've presented nothing to refute the findings of Doctors Without Borders, nothing to show that the protesters are violent, refused to acknowledge that over 99% of the violence has been caused by the police. You've been given statistics, which you then say you do not want.
What is apparent from all of your comments is an attempt to use the old false equivalency argument which goes like this: If 99% of the violence is committed by the side you are on, but 1% is committed by the side you don't like, rather than concede the facts when they cannot be argued against, fall back on the false equivalency claim that 'they both do it'.
Sorry, that is simply so outrageously wrong, and transparent (the MSM have been trying it from the beginning) that even people who are not supportive of OWS haven't bought it.
Either provide something to back up your claims, or there is no point in playing this 'false equivalency' game any longer. You can't win that game when the numbers are so completely off the charts against it.
Facts matter. And never mind 'demanding' proof. You were given proof, you refused to acknowledge it and while demanding it thought that no one noticed the total lack of proof you yourself provided.
Wrong, the glaring absence of anything to back up the false claim that 'they both do it' in this case, from you, was fully noted from the beginning.