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Lee-Lee

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63. You should read this and educate yourself

Wed Sep 16, 2015, 05:08 PM

Sep 2015

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exigent_circumstance_in_United_States_law

A clear exemption to a need for a warrant is belief a person may be harmed if you don't act.

So cops are dispatched to a location where a reported suicidal female lives. Upon knocking a female inside refuses to open the door just saying "she's not here, I'm not her"- very unusual behavior for the roommate of a person reported missing and possibly suicidal.

Any court would rule that a reasonable person would see that given the information available to the police that they had reason to believe that something unusual was going on- as it's not reasonable or normal to expect the roommate of a person missing and possibly suicidal to not even open the door for police trying to find and help her.

Don't like that? Take it up with the Supreme Court and the lower courts who established the case law.

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Police invade Texas woman’s home for warrantless 3AM ‘welfare check’ [View all] damnedifIknow Sep 2015 OP

Those cops should be fired. WDIM Sep 2015 #1

And what if the roommate did something to her? yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #6

Then they present their suspicions to a judge and get a warrant Midnight Writer Sep 2015 #13

Are you serious? You think the police should be able prayin4rain Sep 2015 #24

That's one of the fundamental differences between people who support the police state Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #26

The law already allows for warrantless entry if they have reasonable suspicion Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #28

Ever heard of something called the Constitution? Bill of Rights ring a bell? tabasco Sep 2015 #36

If it so fucking reasonable then a warrant ought to be no problem. TheKentuckian Sep 2015 #42

At 3am, though? ecstatic Sep 2015 #51

3AM. No warrant. No Reasonable Suspicion. No permission. Physical abuse. No murder. LanternWaste Sep 2015 #52

You need a thesaurus Glassunion Sep 2015 #62

Assholes world wide wally Sep 2015 #2

So ... what happened to the missing roommate? struggle4progress Sep 2015 #3

Her family had reported they believed she was suicidal.. jberryhill Sep 2015 #5

Did the roommate ever reappear or is she still missing after a month? struggle4progress Sep 2015 #7

Dunno jberryhill Sep 2015 #8

I couldn't find anything about her either struggle4progress Sep 2015 #10

I can see a problem with trying to apply that here Major Nikon Sep 2015 #19

The reports are quite vague jberryhill Sep 2015 #23

I agree. This is ridiculous. So, and so MAY be suicidal does not support the prayin4rain Sep 2015 #25

Raw Story has some additional details jberryhill Sep 2015 #4

"this is against the law" redruddyred Sep 2015 #9

Handcuffed, thrown on the floor and a knee in the chest at 3AM damnedifIknow Sep 2015 #31

No. It is against the law n/t kcr Sep 2015 #39

sorry let me be more explicit redruddyred Sep 2015 #40

+1 uponit7771 Sep 2015 #41

Yep kcr Sep 2015 #54

I smell a settlement coming... and a big one tomm2thumbs Sep 2015 #11

fuck tha police frylock Sep 2015 #12

Police perform welfare checks all the time... the_sly_pig Sep 2015 #14

/\ /\yep dembotoz Sep 2015 #30

I'm concerned with my adult child and we have been out of contact is not probable cause TheKentuckian Sep 2015 #44

Thank you. Probable cause. kcr Sep 2015 #53

Good gracious!! the_sly_pig Sep 2015 #55

Cats in trees are not in my home. My teenager in bed, my house I called them though I think such a TheKentuckian Sep 2015 #56

OH my.. I do declare. the_sly_pig Sep 2015 #65

No, they are not in any way obligated to respond metalbot Sep 2015 #64

Most all of the information in the link... the_sly_pig Sep 2015 #66

Terrorists. SoapBox Sep 2015 #15

Someday they will be looking for birth control pills and condoms. n/t gordianot Sep 2015 #16

Unconscionable. nt No Vested Interest Sep 2015 #17

I am touched that four men are so concerned about a missing woman. McCamy Taylor Sep 2015 #18

Yeah but Aerows Sep 2015 #20

All those cops are criminals PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #21

Um ... the Travis County Sheriff's Office is not part of the Federal Executive branch struggle4progress Sep 2015 #22

Um...citizens of the nation but subjects of the county, huh? Nonsense. TheKentuckian Sep 2015 #45

It's ag how I can agree with the essence of everything you wrote yet come away shaking my head Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #29

Most everyone and everything around us PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #33

Useless jerks. sibelian Sep 2015 #27

A 3 AM welfare check? WTF? hobbit709 Sep 2015 #32

Police: "Gosh golly I just don't understand why people don't love and worship us!" RedCappedBandit Sep 2015 #34

Police are called to check on people every day Lee-Lee Sep 2015 #35

If the parents had been out of contact what the hell would they know about her mental state or TheKentuckian Sep 2015 #46

With regards to the parents Lee-Lee Sep 2015 #47

If she wants to off herself it is her own affair and does not justify barging into TheKentuckian Sep 2015 #58

Sorry, but no, the cops can't just say "screw it let her kill herself" Lee-Lee Sep 2015 #59

No I wouldnt, you have my permission to expose my hypocrisy or inconsistencies in this matters. TheKentuckian Sep 2015 #61

You should read this and educate yourself Lee-Lee Sep 2015 #63

Then what's to stop someone who has a neighbor or relative damnedifIknow Sep 2015 #49

Nothing is to stop them Lee-Lee Sep 2015 #50

The story suggests mercuryblues Sep 2015 #37

Seeing as some support this break-in, I'm going to leave this here... ScreamingMeemie Sep 2015 #38

A text from the home owner saying they're being held at gunpoint prayin4rain Sep 2015 #43

Your friends and family that are cops would do this too. It's SOP. Taitertots Sep 2015 #48

SO the cop apologists just ignore the warrantless search? Typical. Rex Sep 2015 #57

Or maybe we know how the law reads and when a warrant isn't required Lee-Lee Sep 2015 #60