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SunSeeker

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69. Any responsible pilot would kick a loud, disruptive passenger off a plane.

Tue May 22, 2012, 10:00 PM

May 2012

It's a matter of public safety. Even a crying toddler has been kicked off, by a MALE pilot.
http://blogs.babycenter.com/mom_stories/2-year-old-kicked-off-flight-for-tantrum-is-flying-anti-kid/

This douche was being loud, and repeatedly disparaging the pilot's skills--which can cause passenger panic, like saying there's something wrong with the plane. It was not just one "snide remark." If he had just made one snide remark to his neighbor, he would not have gotten kicked off. He forced the pilot's hand by being loud and repeating his statements.

But, if you want to test your theory, next time you board a plane with a mustachioed pilot, I suggest you start loudly disparaging his mustache and see how long they let you keep that up.

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Female pilot tosses passenger for sexist remarks [View all] cali May 2012 OP

i bet he didn't like that Enrique May 2012 #1

Only a real genius would want to piss off his pilot before take off.. left coaster May 2012 #2

Or his dentist before she cleans his teeth... madinmaryland May 2012 #10

Check Snopes.... Aviation Pro May 2012 #107

It was a good one, though!! madinmaryland May 2012 #169

Really? The pilot is going to crash the plane to spite one asshole passenger? Bake May 2012 #118

Well there's not much a pilot can do to harm any one passenger 4th law of robotics May 2012 #120

RE: Waiters/Waitresses/Waitrons/Counter Ordertakers/Whatever... Buns_of_Fire May 2012 #127

...or ANYONE who cooks or serves them food. bvar22 May 2012 #146

Yaaaaaay Good for her. virgogal May 2012 #3

Good for her! ProfessionalLeftist May 2012 #4

Serves him right. As pilot in command, it's perfectly within her right Proles May 2012 #5

LOL!!...Good for her! whathehell May 2012 #6

I saw this happen on Alaska Airlines Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2012 #7

So he was kicked off, or just told to shut up or he would be? Darth_Kitten May 2012 #8

The plane had already landed, Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2012 #11

But for him to go up to her and say that? Darth_Kitten May 2012 #12

omg Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #9

Didn't the old geezer... Stargazer09 May 2012 #17

old geezer kardonb May 2012 #37

There are plenty of young ones with that attitude too. CrispyQ May 2012 #93

They feel enttitled to everything. Arugula Latte May 2012 #128

Do you really think that would have modified his outlook? Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2012 #38

You have a point Stargazer09 May 2012 #68

Excellent! dana_b May 2012 #13

k&r... spanone May 2012 #14

Good for her. marmar May 2012 #15

Seems like a bit of an overreaction. Nye Bevan May 2012 #16

It's an airplane treestar May 2012 #18

I guess you're right. Nye Bevan May 2012 #21

no it's more that he would say something against the pilot piloting the plane treestar May 2012 #24

"Oh great, we have a black guy flying this plane" obamanut2012 May 2012 #85

+1000000000 blueamy66 May 2012 #108

How so? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #121

It's a matter of several things. Honeycombe8 May 2012 #20

+1 well said spooky3 May 2012 #114

"Geezerdom"! LOL. I'm going to steal your term....that is so good. nt Honeycombe8 May 2012 #180

No, its not. If she personally kicked his ass off the plane undeterred May 2012 #23

I don't think 'politically incorrect' and 'insulting' are quite the same. randome May 2012 #33

'for politically incorrect speech' marmar May 2012 #34

You're right, of course. Cerridwen May 2012 #60

Pilots have a LOT of leeway to remove passengers if there's even a chance Blue_Tires May 2012 #74

Employees have a right to not be discriminated against and harassed obamanut2012 May 2012 #83

Since when chervilant May 2012 #102

He questioned the plane's safety in a way that would alarm other passengers. McCamy Taylor May 2012 #160

No, but hostile passengers yes. justice1 May 2012 #164

When captaining an airplane or a ship Ikonoklast May 2012 #172

total and complete asshole deserving of whatever he got. CTyankee May 2012 #19

Post removed Post removed May 2012 #22

So what if it had been a black pilot? treestar May 2012 #26

Yes, It would be. People are idiots. Dealing with them is part of the job. Logical May 2012 #29

You can get kicked off a plane for harassing the personnel or other passengers. Given that people Luminous Animal May 2012 #39

I have worked fast food, drug stores, etc. If I kicked out every rude customer I would feel stupid! Logical May 2012 #40

I've worked retail for many years and I kicked out every customer Luminous Animal May 2012 #73

I have worked retail management and have kicked out customers obamanut2012 May 2012 #87

And it shows that behavior is not tolerated treestar May 2012 #94

I disagree with your assertion that the pilot was "emotional". Quantess May 2012 #170

Dealing with people is not part of a pilots job. Flying the plane is. Luminous Animal May 2012 #52

Seems like this idiot was dealth with nicely. nt RedCappedBandit May 2012 #55

She dealt with him. Iggo May 2012 #81

People are idiots?! chervilant May 2012 #103

And the pilot did indeed, as part of her job, deal with this particular idiot in a most efficient an LanternWaste May 2012 #106

She was quite logical, he was the insecure, whiny baby who couldn't handle things. Darth_Kitten May 2012 #27

I agree he was a sexist idiot. But ignoring them is the best solution. n-t Logical May 2012 #31

Nah, sometimes you have to nip them in the bud. Darth_Kitten May 2012 #36

You can't just ignore disruptive people in the confines of an airplane. SunSeeker May 2012 #48

+1 treestar May 2012 #95

Why ignore them when kicking them off the plane is so much fun?! nt ZombieHorde May 2012 #78

That is the worst thing to do with sexist idiots obamanut2012 May 2012 #88

Yeah, right chervilant May 2012 #105

That there is in fact, no one Best Solution in dealing with anti-social behavior LanternWaste May 2012 #123

I take it you don't have daughters- secondvariety May 2012 #32

You are wrong again. Two daughters. Both in College. Both amazing. So quit the whining. Logical May 2012 #35

Me too. And if my daughter was a pilot, I would be prouder of her if she laughed off Nye Bevan May 2012 #42

+1000, but no one here will understand your point. n-t Logical May 2012 #46

Where in that article did it state that the pilot threw a hissy fit? Luminous Animal May 2012 #51

Nice catch. SunSeeker May 2012 #58

throwing a hissy fit? And you know this how, dear? cali May 2012 #54

Now now. Let's try to keep this civilized. Nye Bevan May 2012 #57

Yes, the f-word is reserved for the lords of the manor. SunSeeker May 2012 #62

Fuck you... Fawke Em May 2012 #84

I'd let it pass. EOTE May 2012 #100

+1 NCTraveler May 2012 #136

how quaint, sweetpea. cali May 2012 #86

You turned this uncivilized as soon as you accused a female pilot who refused to be harassed... EOTE May 2012 #99

Wow... chervilant May 2012 #109

hissy fit? Because that is what women do? Throw hissy fits? CBGLuthier May 2012 #82

Standing up for your rights is "throwing a hissyfit"? obamanut2012 May 2012 #90

What specifically leads you to conclude the pilot threw a "hissyfit"? LanternWaste May 2012 #129

BTW , 6-0 to keep. Thanks jury (nt) Nye Bevan May 2012 #132

Yet it continues to beg the question... LanternWaste May 2012 #134

When your daughters are trying to do their job in a professional manner and some idiots won't leave Luminous Animal May 2012 #43

My daughters have already dealt with their share of sexist fools. And handled them perfect! n-t Logical May 2012 #45

It's too bad that all women don't have your daughter's superwoman powers Luminous Animal May 2012 #49

I think you have a point about some people being overly sensitive. BUT... randome May 2012 #53

And the pilot could have chosen to laugh in the guy's face and he might have quieted down... Luminous Animal May 2012 #72

Starting with their chervilant May 2012 #111

They haven't even gotten out of college but have already encountered "their share of sexist fools?" spooky3 May 2012 #116

+1000 Luminous Animal May 2012 #174

So, I guess secondvariety May 2012 #59

It's a mystery! Luminous Animal May 2012 #75

then they haven't started working in careers yet and haven't yet told you about the spooky3 May 2012 #115

sticks n stones may break my bones but words.... chknltl May 2012 #25

Good! Odin2005 May 2012 #28

K&R DeSwiss May 2012 #30

Not at all! LadyHawkAZ May 2012 #41

My apologies..... DeSwiss May 2012 #47

LOL! Ok, you got me to click the link. Heeeeelarious! SunSeeker May 2012 #64

Oooh..... DeSwiss May 2012 #71

lolz My exact thought reading the OP! JNelson6563 May 2012 #104

omg -- I hadn't heard about that story yet fishwax May 2012 #141

Well done -- way to protect and respect employees! obamanut2012 May 2012 #44

That's what he gets for being a douche! n/t backscatter712 May 2012 #50

Being a douche is probably the only way Fawke Em May 2012 #91

A pilot has the same authority as the Captain of a ship gort May 2012 #56

Would Captain Chelsey Sullenberger have thrown someone off a plane Nye Bevan May 2012 #61

You're right, of course. Cerridwen May 2012 #66

Any responsible pilot would kick a loud, disruptive passenger off a plane. SunSeeker May 2012 #69

Thing is, he's a man, he wouldn't be insulted. Darth_Kitten May 2012 #80

And he's lived his whole life as a man treestar May 2012 #96

Nor is it likely that chervilant May 2012 #110

Yup. Darth_Kitten May 2012 #177

Good point... wickerwoman May 2012 #155

Good! underseasurveyor May 2012 #63

She should have ejected him while the plane was taking off. Auntie Bush May 2012 #65

The real headline should be "How would some people in this thread react if the pilot were male?" justiceischeap May 2012 #67

I wonder, if the pilot was a Texan, and he threw someone off for making a crack about "rednecks", Nye Bevan May 2012 #70

Are you seriously arguing that calling someone a "redneck" is comparable to spooky3 May 2012 #117

This passenger kept the female pilot in a low paying job? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #124

You completely missed the point--which is that all of the examples I gave were of spooky3 May 2012 #181

hate speach is hate speach. RitchieRich May 2012 #147

You also have missed the point, which is that under US law, different behavior and speech are spooky3 May 2012 #182

+1 treestar May 2012 #97

Likely he'd have been labeled an authoritarian, high on his own power 4th law of robotics May 2012 #122

I'm just suggesting there would be a different response justiceischeap May 2012 #131

I haven't heard of a male pilot tossing someone off because they were personally offended 4th law of robotics May 2012 #133

I imagine that we often imagine hypothetical scenarios only in such a way LanternWaste May 2012 #135

Possibly, but I was replying to such a hypothetical 4th law of robotics May 2012 #137

It certainly does LanternWaste May 2012 #153

"when we shave vertically, it's much more effective that shaving horizontally" 4th law of robotics May 2012 #163

What an odd post. Police = airline pilots? Luminous Animal May 2012 #173

I never said police = airline pilots 4th law of robotics May 2012 #175

Two of six jurors voted "Let 'em crash" NoPasaran May 2012 #76

They bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into! LadyHawkAZ May 2012 #79

Nice! RitchieRich May 2012 #149

I am a horrible person LadyHawkAZ May 2012 #157

just... RitchieRich May 2012 #159

I'm not that horrible. LadyHawkAZ May 2012 #161

pilots can boot people who are loud and annoying Skittles May 2012 #77

Good for her! ZERO tolerance for this type of crap! She's the captain, CTyankee May 2012 #89

I don't like the term 'zero tolerance'. randome May 2012 #101

I didn't mean it to be taken as a threat of violence, just of not putting up with CTyankee May 2012 #113

I hear ya! randome May 2012 #126

+ a gazillion! chervilant May 2012 #112

Sending this story to my daughters today. Nobody has to deal with sexist harassment in this day nt riderinthestorm May 2012 #92

Good for her. K&R. n/t DLevine May 2012 #98

Anybody who is in customer SERVICE has to deal with assholes. Bake May 2012 #119

Pilots are not the front line of customer service. The stewards are riderinthestorm May 2012 #125

"Was the passenger a jerk? Yes. And he paid for that privilege." NCTraveler May 2012 #140

Did he punch anybody? Bake May 2012 #144

I am sorry your employer allowed that. NCTraveler May 2012 #165

I've been in similar situations with horrible customers jp11 May 2012 #178

and sometimes they deal with assholes by refusing further service fishwax May 2012 #143

And the pilot did indeed deal with the a**hole. LanternWaste May 2012 #154

I'm in a far more "customer service" job than a pilot, wickerwoman May 2012 #156

Bravo! meeksgeek May 2012 #167

word. nt StarryNight May 2012 #179

That asshole definitely deserved what he got. Initech May 2012 #130

Nobody Should Insult Their Pilot About ANYTHING ProfessorGAC May 2012 #138

This thread has been a real eye opener for me. n/t myrna minx May 2012 #139

good for the pilot -- and for the airline, for standing behind its workers fishwax May 2012 #142

Let's switch this around a bit .. suppose the pilot was a wingnut Bake May 2012 #145

If the passenger was loud, obnoxious and rude, the airline would have every right to. LanternWaste May 2012 #158

Female pilot tosses passenger off plane for sexist remarks bvar22 May 2012 #148

What a dope. He got exactly what he deserved - the boot. hifiguy May 2012 #150

ok, ok... RitchieRich May 2012 #151

come on, people... RitchieRich May 2012 #152

This is a plane safety issue. McCamy Taylor May 2012 #162

I guess I can understand this, but I really can't applaud the pilot for it... jobycom May 2012 #166

Do THey Get The Rush Limbaugh Show In Brazil Too? DallasNE May 2012 #168

Brazil doesn't appear to have these Goebbels controlling the meme. Good for them. freshwest May 2012 #171

He obviously hadn't heard of sky law. jp11 May 2012 #176