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raouldukelives

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48. Awesome. It is what we truly need to turn things around.

Tue May 22, 2012, 11:18 PM

May 2012

I think we need to really take a hard look at sustaining people and doing it in an environmentally conscious way. Better to spend a little additional money making people self-sustainable than to continue having people drive two hours a day to sit in front of a computer and push decimal points around to satisfy the stock market. Creating vast amounts of pollution to and fro and then creating nothing but more speculation leading to more environmental destruction and more waste leading to even more problems in the future. What could be more worthless than that?
I'm all for people feeling useful but not at the expense of helpless people and critters who should have the right to enjoy a little sunshine, nature and peace for the short visit they have on this once and still could be beautiful planet.

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For people talking about having a 50 year old retirement age [View all] RB TexLa May 2012 OP

I am 52 and think it is a stupid idea. n-t Logical May 2012 #1

Who is talking about that? TBF May 2012 #2

Here you go: white_wolf May 2012 #42

I would too - it would free up jobs for young folks, 55 for sure. TBF May 2012 #80

I turned 50 this year Zanzoobar May 2012 #3

It wouldn't mean Politicalboi May 2012 #4

Is it a manditory retirement age? Brickbat May 2012 #5

There is where I work LibertyLover May 2012 #83

Worthless? BeyondGeography May 2012 #6

Retired at 63 and flunked it 4 times so far!! HEE HEE Wellstone ruled May 2012 #7

Pretty worthless badtoworse May 2012 #8

There are a lot of things I'd like to do with my time yet abelenkpe May 2012 #9

Back when my husband retired, during the Clinton years, many of the retirees we met Cleita May 2012 #10

I like your signature banner! nt TrollBuster9090 May 2012 #15

People have to work for others in order to feel worthwhile? DavidDvorkin May 2012 #11

Please make a thread about this so I can rec it. It deserves to be discussed AT LENGTH. Zalatix May 2012 #33

Employment is often the primary role one plays in society bhikkhu May 2012 #46

And plenty of people retire and love it. DavidDvorkin May 2012 #56

I think what you said is probably the worst indictment of western civilization I've read here. Selatius May 2012 #68

Really? I have lots of hobbies. Starry Messenger May 2012 #12

Meanwhile, you're building another closet... gkhouston May 2012 #32

That's only half-finished too. Starry Messenger May 2012 #43

Tragically, it's not even a contiguous half. n/t gkhouston May 2012 #44

Actually, phased, 4 and 3 day work week retirements make more sense. TrollBuster9090 May 2012 #13

Did you forget your sarcasm thingy? Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2012 #20

The wealth isn't being hoarded by baby boomers, it's being hoarded by the Plutocracy. Zalatix May 2012 #34

The 35-hour work week would be a good compromise. JDPriestly May 2012 #65

i was with you until "it's all hogged by the baby boomers in their late 50s". HiPointDem May 2012 #71

Speak for yourself! n/t ingac70 May 2012 #14

WORTHLESS????????? Good God man........... socialist_n_TN May 2012 #16

I don't have a job to have self worth. I trade my labor to pay for things. OmahaBlueDog May 2012 #21

If it were distributed properly (to everyone according to need)......... socialist_n_TN May 2012 #24

Well said! We live in an egregious capitalistic system. A few are RKP5637 May 2012 #28

We disagree, but we're not entirely without common ground OmahaBlueDog May 2012 #39

I agree, self worth comes from within silentwarrior May 2012 #73

the entire concept of "self-worth" comes from without. it's a concept given to us by our society HiPointDem May 2012 #75

mmmm, silentwarrior May 2012 #77

I'd like to try it. tawadi May 2012 #17

You're kidding right? flamingdem May 2012 #18

Sadly, he does not kid with you. HughBeaumont May 2012 #79

because all employed people are treated as worthy Skittles May 2012 #19

Worthless? Are you kidding? The Velveteen Ocelot May 2012 #22

I retired at 62 and I am not bored. I don't know how I ever found the time to work. doc03 May 2012 #23

Do military personnel feel "worthless" when they can potentially Lydia Leftcoast May 2012 #25

As a practical matter, most don't "retire" after their 20 years. OmahaBlueDog May 2012 #36

When I used to see stories on the late news about little old ladies found dead in their Booster May 2012 #26

Nobody is a little old lady at age 50. Luminous Animal May 2012 #31

I'm 69 & I was talking about little old ladies older than that. Booster May 2012 #41

Yes. There is plenty of time between age 50 and dying amongst cat food cans Luminous Animal May 2012 #62

People don't need to feel like they have worth if they can have fun and sit on their asses. dkf May 2012 #27

+1 doc03 May 2012 #35

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but... white_wolf May 2012 #45

It's not even about retirement. dkf May 2012 #63

yep. rich people don't have to worry about their self-worth. their money makes it irrelevant. HiPointDem May 2012 #76

No. In fact, I would be infinately more useful... Luminous Animal May 2012 #29

Awesome. It is what we truly need to turn things around. raouldukelives May 2012 #48

A person's self-worth is not determined by how much money they make for the capitalists... Comrade_McKenzie May 2012 #30

Only a dullard needs a job to make them feel worthwhile. Yavin4 May 2012 #37

How many 50 year olds Coyote_Bandit May 2012 #38

If we got Medicare at 50 many more could retire nt flamingdem May 2012 #40

You beat me to the post! nt raccoon May 2012 #81

We know that would be great! flamingdem May 2012 #85

Marx wrote about this in one of his books, i'll try and find it. white_wolf May 2012 #47

I was just thinking of that quote. trackfan May 2012 #57

Really? peabody May 2012 #49

well thanks for the psychological advice CreekDog May 2012 #50

I didn't give any political advice peabody May 2012 #51

that's correct CreekDog May 2012 #53

Oh, Sorry about that. peabody May 2012 #54

No worries and I liked your response to the OP! CreekDog May 2012 #55

I retired at 55 and would gladly have done so at 50. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2012 #52

Why would being retired make one feel worthless, unless their self worth was derived from work? TheKentuckian May 2012 #58

If I get ousted from my job like many people at or near that age I'd be happy to jp11 May 2012 #59

Maybe you would, but I certainly wouldn't neverforget May 2012 #60

I'd be happy to run that risk. JVS May 2012 #61

63 and thereafter is a good age to retire. JDPriestly May 2012 #64

I'm planning on being semi or fully retired at fifty, Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2012 #66

"1000 Places to see before you die" book ErikJ May 2012 #67

We have a plan, Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2012 #72

Confucius said “Find a job you love and you’ll never work a day in your life” ErikJ May 2012 #69

No, because I retired at 38 and it is fucking awesome REP May 2012 #70

a prolonged period of unemployment has actually led me to believe that most jobs are worthless, HiPointDem May 2012 #74

Oh my. This is an excellent post. pa28 May 2012 #89

At 50, it's not retirement, it's a second career spinbaby May 2012 #78

Do you have any idea about how productivity has improved since WW II? eridani May 2012 #82

I'm going to be retired by 50 AngryAmish May 2012 #84

Let me explain. When one can retire at 50, one has more worth than those who must continue to labor Bluenorthwest May 2012 #86

Being free is not the same thing as being worthless.. bemildred May 2012 #87

Does this mean you feel that retired people are worthless? How about the unemployed? n/t ieoeja May 2012 #88