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boppers

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74. Journalists who rape children should be arrested and detained, to point to the obvious.

Wed May 23, 2012, 08:06 AM

May 2012

Hiding behind "freedom of the press" is not license to commit a crime. Just because your "journalism project" was to document child porn, doesn't justify having a huge stash of videos of children being brutalized. Same with "bloggers" who have video cameras claiming to be "journalists".

Oh, and peer review has been going on for over 400 years, 1,300+ if you count religious textual interpretation debates.

"So, here's my question, why are you, a Democrat, not alarmed, as so many others are, that this country has suddenly started to harass and even jail journalists all of a sudden?"

Because it hasn't happened in a new or different way, as far as I can tell. Journalists have always been arrested, and jailed. They are not immune from law. It is not "sudden" to be arrested and jailed for a crime, regardless of one's profession.

"There is no doubt it is happening so let's just move on from there. Why does this abuse of the Constitution not alarm you?"

Uhm, how is it happening in a different way than before? You may have "no doubt", but I'd like to see some numbers. I have doubt, even if you are certain of your religion.

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So tell me, ...what did this guy do to deserve it? [View all] Earth_First May 2012 OP

Remember when we were kids and told "Policemen were your friends." I don't recognize much of this monmouth May 2012 #1

I was told the same. In fact, most of the cops where I grew up were RKP5637 May 2012 #11

feels like a political convention once roguevalley May 2012 #14

Who is he? I mean, I'm all for detail-free posting in the Lounge, but in msanthrope May 2012 #2

Look, it's a guy with a blood head! randome May 2012 #6

Do you have any other information? MineralMan May 2012 #3

Is he under arrest? dems_rightnow May 2012 #4

Are you kidding me? ithinkmyliverhurts May 2012 #5

Lucky he's not in jail, well I assume he's not. They've been throwing journalists in jail sabrina 1 May 2012 #7

Yes, can someone explain this photo? zappaman May 2012 #8

No context. GeorgeGist May 2012 #9

The context of this particular image may not be equally as important as the fact... Earth_First May 2012 #10

The picture is of Getty Images photographer Scott Olson Art_from_Ark May 2012 #12

Thank you, Art... Earth_First May 2012 #13

See below, he is a photo journalist who works for Getty images. sabrina 1 May 2012 #15

Doesn't look any worse than Zimmerman's. A scratch, really. Zanzoobar May 2012 #16

Well, Zimmerman killed a man, so he deserved a few 'scratches'. The question was, what did this sabrina 1 May 2012 #17

He doesn't look beaten to me Zanzoobar May 2012 #18

He's a photo journalist. He wasn't exactly in a war zone, although he sure likes like he was. sabrina 1 May 2012 #24

It kills me that so many here are willing to give law enforcement the benefit of the doubt, first... Earth_First May 2012 #26

Lol, I know. There is simply no logic to it considering the past seven months of evidence that sabrina 1 May 2012 #30

It is positively disgusting and pathetic. - n/t coalition_unwilling May 2012 #40

The loyal apologists for the police are here in force on DU Bake May 2012 #88

a journalist carrying a camera, what more do you need? CTyankee May 2012 #31

This is how a police state maintains its power Generic Other May 2012 #80

I don't know what he did. Do you? boppers May 2012 #20

I don't know yet, but the video will be available soon. I do remember so many instances like this sabrina 1 May 2012 #23

So many are so quick to take defense of law enforcement? Why? Earth_First May 2012 #25

How many were arrested, detained, or beaten in each of the last 20 years? boppers May 2012 #29

Do you have an instances of that scenario you just conjured up happening at any of these sabrina 1 May 2012 #36

Well, how does it compare to other years? boppers May 2012 #41

I don't know, maybe the phony War on Drugs or the detention of Muslims suspected of being terrorists sabrina 1 May 2012 #42

Give me numbers, not rhetoric. boppers May 2012 #47

Josh Sterns has been documenting arrests of journalists since September... Earth_First May 2012 #44

...and there is also "Photography Is Not A Crime" -ran by a DUer who doesn't post very often Earth_First May 2012 #45

Compared to what? boppers May 2012 #49

When was the last time you heard of 10 journalists being arrested every month, for nearly a year... Earth_First May 2012 #50

I have never heard of it. boppers May 2012 #56

One journalist arrested and detained sabrina 1 May 2012 #68

Journalists who rape children should be arrested and detained, to point to the obvious. boppers May 2012 #74

Report: Press freedom holds steady worldwide sabrina 1 May 2012 #83

"Sunlight is the best disinfectant" Bake May 2012 #90

When was the last time you heard of 10 journalists being arrested every month, for nearly a year... Earth_First May 2012 #51

None, of course. Is there some legitimate number of inappropriately beaten-up innocents? WriteWrong May 2012 #158

Sure. They get their day in court, and their lawsuits. boppers May 2012 #160

So how does that compare with the number of banksters arrested since September? AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #52

So, how many instances of these molotov cocktail throwing "fake journalists" can you point to? nt Guy Whitey Corngood May 2012 #65

Hm, at OccupyPortland's last stand, I counted 10 who were armed for combat *and* journalism. boppers May 2012 #71

You're right. Guy Whitey Corngood May 2012 #75

Just like everybody who carries a camera and claims to be a "journalist". boppers May 2012 #78

What is this? "I know you are but what am I?" You're Guy Whitey Corngood May 2012 #82

It's his typical approach. U4ikLefty May 2012 #106

You're pretty fascinated by video evidence. boppers May 2012 #28

Multiple cameras produce evidence from many different angles, that is why so far, no one has sabrina 1 May 2012 #33

It's also why some protesters get arrested, and convicted, for their actions. boppers May 2012 #35

No protesters have been convicted, BECAUSE of video evidence. Have you followed any of this at all sabrina 1 May 2012 #43

You have made my point. boppers May 2012 #46

Your point must be a state secret, because I have no idea what point you are trying to make. sabrina 1 May 2012 #48

My point is that bullshit allegations get refuted by video evidence. boppers May 2012 #54

And I agree, which is why I keep asking for the video evidence of violent protesters. sabrina 1 May 2012 #59

well done Sabrina fascisthunter May 2012 #60

Tired of the circular argument, with zero to back it up. Not that I hadn't noticed but sabrina 1 May 2012 #61

you are always welcome! fascisthunter May 2012 #100

+100 Sabrina Generic Other May 2012 #81

If 99.9999% percent are innocent, that's still not 100%. boppers May 2012 #70

Black Bloc is not OWS. How hard is that for you to understand? sabrina 1 May 2012 #95

How is OWS preventing Bloc infiltration? Blood tests or something? eom boppers May 2012 #102

'Infiltration'. Thank you! sabrina 1 May 2012 #103

So, members. boppers May 2012 #109

I don't care what they do. They are a separate group who have been around sabrina 1 May 2012 #118

If you think the Civil Rights Movement was all non-violent, shame on your schooling. boppers May 2012 #119

What was MLK's approach to achieving his goals? sabrina 1 May 2012 #120

MLK advocated non-violence. boppers May 2012 #123

boppers...you have been owned!!! U4ikLefty May 2012 #107

Only for those lacking a dictionary. boppers May 2012 #110

And nurses, construction workers, fire fighters, pilots, school teachers, students, sabrina 1 May 2012 #121

Indeed. It's a huge coalition, rarely attempted before. boppers May 2012 #124

And you know what? They don't make policy, at all. Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #122

They do, unfortunately, make news. boppers May 2012 #126

Oh please. You are talking about the US media? They create 'news' to fit an agenda. No one sabrina 1 May 2012 #128

I propose the following ideas for a GA: boppers May 2012 #129

Each comment you make shows how little you have followed this movement. sabrina 1 May 2012 #132

You missed my refrain. boppers May 2012 #135

I didn't miss your refrain at all. sabrina 1 May 2012 #138

Maybe you didn't see it. boppers May 2012 #142

Lol, of course I saw it, months ago, on Glenn Beck's blog, and on Free Republic sabrina 1 May 2012 #164

Some wang thought that a local Fox news guy was part of the 1%. boppers May 2012 #165

Really, I have a friend who was part of the Portland Occupy movement. I guess you just stopped by sabrina 1 May 2012 #166

I was *not* a camper. boppers May 2012 #167

Thanks for posting this link, BTW. boppers May 2012 #143

Please see my post #58 in this thread. Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #67

Another story about another victim in Chicago that didn't deserve what he got: sad sally May 2012 #19

How terribly sad. And even more so that it occurs on a regular basis. Those children should be sabrina 1 May 2012 #34

How do we know what was going on? treestar May 2012 #21

Well, he is a photo journalist for one of the best organizations that often send their sabrina 1 May 2012 #37

So the police are thugs. What else is new lunatica May 2012 #22

What else is new is that "we" have an AG who apparently won't prosecute any of them, the AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #53

maybe he was stalking somebody with his camera hfojvt May 2012 #27

Why the hell would you side with the police!? I'm about to post livestream of what happened to him Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #57

Yay, Cops! Iggo May 2012 #32

Chicago cops also arrested a Getty photographer. Just nonsense... n/t Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #38

How dare Olson bang his head on the pigs' coalition_unwilling May 2012 #39

the same posters always siding with authority fascisthunter May 2012 #55

Surprised? No. Most of them were likely Republican before the GOP purges, they have not changed Dragonfli May 2012 #64

YOU nailed it fascisthunter May 2012 #101

* ronnie624 May 2012 #105

Here is livestream of what appears to have happened to him. Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #58

I was close Zanzoobar May 2012 #62

You saw the pics of cops shoving people along the fence and into each other; it's the second photo Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #66

I watched the video you posted Zanzoobar May 2012 #84

Why did the cops attack those protesters, right after the Veterans tossed their medals? sabrina 1 May 2012 #85

I didn't see an attack in the video Fire posted Zanzoobar May 2012 #87

They moved in as the Veterans themselves, interviewed on various media, stated. People sabrina 1 May 2012 #97

How quickly we forget the Bill of Rights. Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #98

And the cops shoving him into it have nothing to do with it? Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #86

I didn't see the other thread. Zanzoobar May 2012 #89

You are making a conclusion without examing the evidence provided? Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #91

I watched the video yesterday Zanzoobar May 2012 #92

I didn't say he was baton'd. Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #93

My mistake Zanzoobar May 2012 #94

Many -were- beaten. This is not my thread. I did not say the photographer was baton'd. Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #99

"peaceful assembly" My ass. boppers May 2012 #114

It was fully peaceful until cops showed up 15+ deep and began giving orders against the Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #115

Are you wearing a brown shirt today? U4ikLefty May 2012 #130

Gandhi thought people should be armed. boppers May 2012 #133

give it up U4ikLefty May 2012 #108

Whoa, I didn't know that, thanks. Blasted cops. n/t Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #125

"hit by a baton" means nothing. boppers May 2012 #136

Your reply makes you look ridiculous. U4ikLefty May 2012 #151

So, you don't engage in baton sport? boppers May 2012 #152

A bloody scratch is not a head wound. It's a mosh pit souvenir. boppers May 2012 #113

Proportion, especially because the rally at which those injuries were doled out Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #116

I suggest you read the Geneva conventions again. boppers May 2012 #127

You are the one who needs a reading lesson. U4ikLefty May 2012 #131

The Geneva conventions are between states. boppers May 2012 #134

Sadly, for those who die for their rights, many cry wolf. eom boppers May 2012 #112

Refusal to disperse is not a right. boppers May 2012 #111

The Constitution. Use it or lose it. Because it's being killed before our very eyes. Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #117

Riot is not a right. Orderly assembly, is. boppers May 2012 #137

Seriously? Seriously? I'm looking at this and looking at this Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #141

Basically, the last 200 years have sided with 1st amendment *limits* on speech. boppers May 2012 #145

He probably didn't do anything to deserve it... tledford May 2012 #63

Why do you keep thinking that DUers want to see anyone injured? randome May 2012 #69

You obviously don't have a fucking clue pinboy3niner May 2012 #72

Who the hell am I casting aspersion to? randome May 2012 #73

Nice try, but no sale pinboy3niner May 2012 #76

Protesting against police violence against protesters doesn't appear to be working. randome May 2012 #77

You asked what we're doing, and I told you what we're doing pinboy3niner May 2012 #79

Is is not "pissing on" the protestors to point out that the treestar May 2012 #140

Yes! sabrina 1 May 2012 #104

was the aparagus steamed or grilled? n/t librechik May 2012 #96

What is the purpose of being out in the streets? treestar May 2012 #139

To the posters not believing he was struck by baton, here's confirmation from Getty Images suffragette May 2012 #144

So, somebody who wasn't there, with no actual knowledge, or evidence, has "confirmed" it? boppers May 2012 #146

Well, didn't take you long - lol suffragette May 2012 #148

My father was a PR flack for the Mormon (CoJCoLDS) church. boppers May 2012 #149

Your dad was a Mormon mouthpiece so you "know how these things work"...too funny. U4ikLefty May 2012 #153

Only in absurdly high concentrations. boppers May 2012 #154

Here I give you the BS that is boppers. U4ikLefty May 2012 #156

'Details are sparse...' randome May 2012 #147

Actually I don't. You can contact the Getty PR person yourself through the links in post #148 suffragette May 2012 #159

I would think that if you want to support your premise, you would do this. randome May 2012 #161

I believe that person so I have no need for doing that suffragette May 2012 #162

Damn...thanks :( Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #157

Thanks for your substantive contributions suffragette May 2012 #163

The thing that shocks me are the bizarre lies the pro-police posters make up to justify the violence WriteWrong May 2012 #150

I suppose the 'evil criminal' posts are...where? randome May 2012 #155

Are you talking about the photo journalist? He got his injury from a police baton it has now been sabrina 1 May 2012 #169

You're absolutely correct. No one at DU is defending police brutality. randome May 2012 #170

It did not have to meander all over the place. Most of us simply looked for the story and easily sabrina 1 May 2012 #171

Well, there's really no point in anyone lying to protect them. The cases are reaching the courts now sabrina 1 May 2012 #168