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102. He wants you to believe his bullshit. I don't.

Reply to CanSocDem (Reply #101)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 01:54 PM

Sep 2015

I read the whole article this morning. I was aware while reading that it was all lies and emotional manipulation.

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"I�m a pedophile, but not a monster" [View all] philosslayer Sep 2015 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Sep 2015 #1

Best reply EVER krawhitham Sep 2015 #193

Wow. That was a tough read. brer cat Sep 2015 #2

I don't think it was intended that way. F4lconF16 Sep 2015 #31

I'm gay and I reacted very differently from you. yardwork Sep 2015 #51

You're surprised that he's trying to gain sympathy? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #58

Where did I say I was surprised? yardwork Sep 2015 #81

If you weren't surprised, then why even bother to mention it? nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #82

What?! yardwork Sep 2015 #108

I think you're right. F4lconF16 Sep 2015 #94

Speaking of serial murderers, it sounds like he's trying to "Dexter" child abuse. nt MADem Sep 2015 #105

You and I disagree on some things, MADem, but we are rock solid 100% on this one Aerows Sep 2015 #188

Many heterosexuals begin to recognize their sexual preferences around puberty, too. MADem Sep 2015 #103

Exactly. yardwork Sep 2015 #109

Everybody's sexuality becomes more evident at puberty - it's just that the default is het Yo_Mama Sep 2015 #133

He's not quite as virtuous as he thinks he is REP Sep 2015 #3

Me too. I feel icky aikoaiko Sep 2015 #7

ugh JI7 Sep 2015 #13

+1 nt Tree-Hugger Sep 2015 #41

And the asshole runs a "Virtuous Pedophiles Forum" snooper2 Sep 2015 #65

You're right! Yo_Mama Sep 2015 #151

Also ... REP Sep 2015 #159

Do you mean this sentence? I read it differently than that and you missed "when...suffers". uppityperson Sep 2015 #177

They don't love children. They love fucking children. There's a difference. REP Sep 2015 #205

Pedophilia isn't that uncommon, unfortunately. Warpy Sep 2015 #4

I had to reread your first sentence to make sure I was reading it right. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #57

I think it's a bull shit statement Puzzledtraveller Sep 2015 #113

Are you saying it should be criminal to have a fantasy life, one that you never act out in real life uppityperson Sep 2015 #180

No, im talking about acting out pedophile fantasies Puzzledtraveller Sep 2015 #196

Thank you. Acting out fantasies that hurt others is wrong. uppityperson Sep 2015 #197

Judge by their actions? uppityperson Sep 2015 #179

I clicked that link already formulating my 'fuck him' post in my head. Marr Sep 2015 #5

"I'm a shoplifter, but I don't steal anything." jberryhill Sep 2015 #6

+1000 zappaman Sep 2015 #8

Well, I think your position is unfortunate. F4lconF16 Sep 2015 #32

Too many victims to be heard first jberryhill Sep 2015 #50

I think that you probably have no real life experience with pedophiles. yardwork Sep 2015 #55

+1 exactly! Person 2713 Sep 2015 #154

If a pedophile never acts on those feelings, how do you know they are a pedophile? uppityperson Sep 2015 #181

+100 nt LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #72

Agreed. Not sympathetic towards your desire to hurt children, at all. n/t prayin4rain Sep 2015 #44

He probably feels it's safe to come out customerserviceguy Sep 2015 #49

To anyone who is a victim to this kind of predator, his writing will be immediately familiar KitSileya Sep 2015 #83

"It is grooming" jberryhill Sep 2015 #86

Melissa McEwan said that, and it struck me so forcibly. KitSileya Sep 2015 #90

Thank you for posting this. yardwork Sep 2015 #189

+1000 geardaddy Sep 2015 #91

This post changed my mind. F4lconF16 Sep 2015 #95

I think it is very important to listen to survivors. As I said downthread, they're the experts KitSileya Sep 2015 #100

Again, thank you. F4lconF16 Sep 2015 #139

Yes! Great post. n/t prayin4rain Sep 2015 #97

Exactly. zappaman Sep 2015 #99

All analogies limp -- this one was carried in on a stretcher nichomachus Sep 2015 #104

I'd say it is more like d_r Sep 2015 #165

He just doesn't sound credible riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #9

"At times I've wondered why I've even bothered to stay legal" melman Sep 2015 #37

Exactly nt Tree-Hugger Sep 2015 #42

When you strip away the rhetoric Yo_Mama Sep 2015 #135

I found this article very illuminating and quite enlightening. CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2015 #10

Same here marym625 Sep 2015 #15

My issue with this is Quackers Sep 2015 #21

Fantasies that are not acted upon are not a problem. CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2015 #22

First, I'm glad he recognizes he has a problem Quackers Sep 2015 #25

That's a good analogy, comparing him to an alcoholic. CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2015 #27

Anytime! Quackers Sep 2015 #28

Absolutely! CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2015 #29

I gotta say Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #59

I would not let him anywhere near my children. Drahthaardogs Sep 2015 #67

Exactly this. ladyVet Sep 2015 #73

Better the guy who tells you he suffers from this mythology Sep 2015 #116

I don't believe him. yardwork Sep 2015 #52

And you would be right not to do so. Aerows Sep 2015 #145

That seems very unwise to me. Marr Sep 2015 #137

Read the above link Aerows Sep 2015 #147

I think you're dangerously naive. GeorgeGist Sep 2015 #169

Really? Puzzledtraveller Sep 2015 #199

If everyone acted on every sexual urge... icarusxat Sep 2015 #11

As a woman that doesn't have children Aerows Sep 2015 #173

Interesting read. I try to understand other people's feelings. Doing that requires putting yourself BlueJazz Sep 2015 #12

I know Robert, or Bob Chewter could tell you a thing or two about this. He lives in London. rusty quoin Sep 2015 #14

Why is it the first thing I thought of was "Republican"? Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #16

So long as they don't hurt anyone, I have no problem with people like the articles author. LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #17

Kind of like "I'm a serial killer, but I'm not a monster." Binkie The Clown Sep 2015 #18

Lol Quackers Sep 2015 #20

Actually, to be a serial killer, you have to really kill a couple of people. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #60

Exactly. Thoughts are not crimes, and they never should be. nt. Mariana Sep 2015 #110

NAMBLA propaganda Quackers Sep 2015 #19

Here's a site that tells the truth about paedophilia rusty quoin Sep 2015 #23

Sorry romanic Sep 2015 #24

I think it was Nietsche who said something along the lines of... TreasonousBastard Sep 2015 #26

Pedophilia is not sexual orientation it is an extreme form of narcissism with a tendency toward Monk06 Sep 2015 #30

Thank you. LuvNewcastle Sep 2015 #45

The apa disagrees with you Mosby Sep 2015 #98

The APA routinely classified Aerows Sep 2015 #174

Psychiatry is not a science in the way Physics is. It's methodology is ad hoc, lacks ability Monk06 Sep 2015 #175

Can't buy it. zentrum Sep 2015 #33

Ever heard of click bait? F4lconF16 Sep 2015 #35

Good points. zentrum Sep 2015 #201

There are many, many more like him that we will never know about eridani Sep 2015 #34

Apparently they all are not like that. Duppers Sep 2015 #38

I read the article, then did a google search Duppers Sep 2015 #36

I did some research on him as well deutsey Sep 2015 #64

That's pretty interesting. cwydro Sep 2015 #127

I honestly hope this does not garner sympathy! RLR1 Sep 2015 #39

Thank you for sharing your story. KitSileya Sep 2015 #92

I was molested by my dad's girlfriend when I was 5. Puzzledtraveller Sep 2015 #114

My mom's older brother tried to molest her Mariana Sep 2015 #195

"I�m only attracted to supermodels, but I'm not a monster" mhatrw Sep 2015 #40

+1 nt Tree-Hugger Sep 2015 #43

Would you rather he WAS forcing himself on little kids? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #62

No, but we should commend him for admitting it. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2015 #74

I'm .....attracted to supermodels, sometimes. I admit it. Shameful, i know. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #140

IMO your actions define what kind of person you are, not your "urges". redgreenandblue Sep 2015 #46

It's not an "orientation." I find that notion ridiculous. Oneironaut Sep 2015 #47

Uuuuuuhhh, no. MrScorpio Sep 2015 #48

Thank you. yardwork Sep 2015 #54

now, now... CanSocDem Sep 2015 #63

"Deviance?" This guy is a fucking rapist who wants to hurt kids... Oneironaut Sep 2015 #96

He has acknowledged his deviance... CanSocDem Sep 2015 #101

He wants you to believe his bullshit. I don't. Oneironaut Sep 2015 #102

What is this you're doing, performance art? MrScorpio Sep 2015 #123

I would call it... CanSocDem Sep 2015 #128

I don't know if you have any kids of your own... MrScorpio Sep 2015 #129

None of my own but... CanSocDem Sep 2015 #130

So now, you're just moving the goalposts MrScorpio Sep 2015 #131

Your society... CanSocDem Sep 2015 #132

Still waiting for you to explain to my unwashed self what's so great about being a child molester MrScorpio Sep 2015 #142

Deviant sex is mutually agreed upon. Criminal sex isn't. TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2015 #190

Actually that is why he suffering from mental illness, he is equating the two as the same. Rex Sep 2015 #124

Pedos no place in normal society Truprogressive85 Sep 2015 #53

How did this particular person 'destroy a child's innocence' that we know of? whatthehey Sep 2015 #77

Humans are all flawed. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #56

That's fine... trumad Sep 2015 #61

A local story is a bit relevant here... OneGrassRoot Sep 2015 #66

The father tried to drown his daughters because he's a selfish piece of shit, not a victim. prayin4rain Sep 2015 #68

The blame for his actions lies solely with him... OneGrassRoot Sep 2015 #70

Except nil desperandum Sep 2015 #69

What should this person do? oberliner Sep 2015 #71

Are they born that way? This man was sexually assaulted as a 7 yr old riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #76

Born that way or became that way due to some traumatic childhood event oberliner Sep 2015 #78

Therapy for the unresolved sexual assault and resulting damage to his psyche riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #80

Thanks for sharing your insights oberliner Sep 2015 #84

Agreed they should be "encouraged" to get it. Should be mandatory! riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #93

I think you are right, and I think it's how these individuals get judges ScreamingMeemie Sep 2015 #160

There is some research to indicate that it can be in the brain. trotsky Sep 2015 #117

I guess I find anyone whose "sexual orientation" is to harm children riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #119

I hear ya. trotsky Sep 2015 #122

It would be great if they could find a way to fix the faulty wiring oberliner Sep 2015 #157

It seems comparable to sexual serial killers in a way. Marr Sep 2015 #156

Good questions oberliner Sep 2015 #158

Administer drugs Aerows Sep 2015 #176

I don't care what people do in the privacy of their own minds... hunter Sep 2015 #75

My opinion on what we need to do with pedophiles is not changed. Exile to an island far from any stevenleser Sep 2015 #79

Are people on this island allowed to have children? oberliner Sep 2015 #85

No, but if they do, the children are removed at birth. nt stevenleser Sep 2015 #88

If you go that extreme, you also need to forcibly sterilize them. KitSileya Sep 2015 #87

See my #88 above. nt stevenleser Sep 2015 #89

Bravo Steven, I'm with you. Puzzledtraveller Sep 2015 #112

I came to this idea after a lot of reflection. These folks have to be kept away from stevenleser Sep 2015 #166

What are you going to do with those who fantasize Mariana Sep 2015 #115

No. Pedophelia is a unique crime for several reasons all of which should be obvious. Nt stevenleser Sep 2015 #134

Pedophilia is not a crime. Mariana Sep 2015 #143

and one almost 100% indicates the other. I noticed that what you didn't offer stevenleser Sep 2015 #161

Punishing people for their thoughts is not a solution. Mariana Sep 2015 #185

And there you have it. See Aerows #144 below stevenleser Sep 2015 #163

I wasn't really talking about this person in particular. Mariana Sep 2015 #187

My remarks weren't only regarding this person either. nt stevenleser Sep 2015 #194

We have drugs that can dramatically reduce sex drive. Aerows Sep 2015 #178

I don't know what to say except perhaps the writer should stop obsessing over the subject, Sunlei Sep 2015 #106

Monster Johnny2X2X Sep 2015 #107

predation is predation Puzzledtraveller Sep 2015 #111

He's very convincing Flying Squirrel Sep 2015 #118

Nah, he's a monster. zappaman Sep 2015 #120

Disturbing Johnny2X2X Sep 2015 #121

No, he's a monster. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #125

He got fired from Lowe's some years ago n/t Stargleamer Sep 2015 #172

Years ago, a pedophile did an enlightening AMA on Reddit. Xithras Sep 2015 #126

Yes, but this guy was confused on that issue. Yo_Mama Sep 2015 #136

Is pedophilia - sexual attraction to children - morally wrong Mariana Sep 2015 #149

But he belonged to (very actively) a website that involved these guys developing relationships Yo_Mama Sep 2015 #152

I wasn't necessarily talking about this person in particular. Mariana Sep 2015 #186

The article he wrote is morally wrong and thus he is morally wrong Yo_Mama Sep 2015 #204

"He is one of those that needs to hear from society no conflicted messages on the subject" Ratty Sep 2015 #202

Arent monsters born that way, too? No one chooses to be an Orc. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #138

Interesting article, but I wouldn't want this guy around my kids Bettie Sep 2015 #141

Two sides to every story Aerows Sep 2015 #144

Thanks for posting this. It would be foolish to take this at face value. Yo_Mama Sep 2015 #153

And there you have it. That's why I believe in my island solution stevenleser Sep 2015 #164

Unfortunately Aerows Sep 2015 #182

Sick Johnny2X2X Sep 2015 #171

If he'd continued to keep his mouth shut and his powder dry, there'd be no problem. NOW? He's made WinkyDink Sep 2015 #146

That isn't his goal Aerows Sep 2015 #148

I have trouble buying this, and I'm a little disappointed in Salon for posting it. ScreamingMeemie Sep 2015 #150

Todd seems intelligent and tormented SwankyXomb Sep 2015 #155

Insidious d_r Sep 2015 #162

I actually also feel like he's getting some kind of creepish enjoyment out of sharing this ScreamingMeemie Sep 2015 #168

Agreed. It's irresponsible of the site. yardwork Sep 2015 #170

It is irresponsible Aerows Sep 2015 #184

As I read the first paragraph, and go to the "Does that shock you?" ScreamingMeemie Sep 2015 #192

Pedophiles don't deserve thought. raven mad Sep 2015 #167

I hate to post a link to this, but this is a link in a site Aerows Sep 2015 #183

"Love, desire, sexual orientation?" - BARF TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2015 #191

What concerns me Puzzledtraveller Sep 2015 #198

I know. It disgusts me. TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2015 #200

"I'm a Republican, but not a monster" KamaAina Sep 2015 #203