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175. I never said police = airline pilots

Wed May 23, 2012, 06:17 PM

May 2012

we were talking about how someone in a position of authority (like pilots, or cops) would be viewed on here for overstepping their bounds based on their gender.

The person I was responding to seemed to think men would get a complete pass for abusing their authority.

Since I couldn't find any instances of male pilots kicking someone off because that passenger hurt his feelings I went with a very common story of police officers (mostly male) abusing their authorities. They are not given a heroes welcome here, even though they are male.

Additionally cops do other things besides beat and arrest peaceful protesters who were just trying to bring milk to a kitten stuck in a tree and help old ladies across the street. Like say, pull you over for nothing a give you a silly ticket. That would be more on par with this.

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Female pilot tosses passenger for sexist remarks [View all] cali May 2012 OP

i bet he didn't like that Enrique May 2012 #1

Only a real genius would want to piss off his pilot before take off.. left coaster May 2012 #2

Or his dentist before she cleans his teeth... madinmaryland May 2012 #10

Check Snopes.... Aviation Pro May 2012 #107

It was a good one, though!! madinmaryland May 2012 #169

Really? The pilot is going to crash the plane to spite one asshole passenger? Bake May 2012 #118

Well there's not much a pilot can do to harm any one passenger 4th law of robotics May 2012 #120

RE: Waiters/Waitresses/Waitrons/Counter Ordertakers/Whatever... Buns_of_Fire May 2012 #127

...or ANYONE who cooks or serves them food. bvar22 May 2012 #146

Yaaaaaay Good for her. virgogal May 2012 #3

Good for her! ProfessionalLeftist May 2012 #4

Serves him right. As pilot in command, it's perfectly within her right Proles May 2012 #5

LOL!!...Good for her! whathehell May 2012 #6

I saw this happen on Alaska Airlines Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2012 #7

So he was kicked off, or just told to shut up or he would be? Darth_Kitten May 2012 #8

The plane had already landed, Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2012 #11

But for him to go up to her and say that? Darth_Kitten May 2012 #12

omg Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #9

Didn't the old geezer... Stargazer09 May 2012 #17

old geezer kardonb May 2012 #37

There are plenty of young ones with that attitude too. CrispyQ May 2012 #93

They feel enttitled to everything. Arugula Latte May 2012 #128

Do you really think that would have modified his outlook? Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2012 #38

You have a point Stargazer09 May 2012 #68

Excellent! dana_b May 2012 #13

k&r... spanone May 2012 #14

Good for her. marmar May 2012 #15

Seems like a bit of an overreaction. Nye Bevan May 2012 #16

It's an airplane treestar May 2012 #18

I guess you're right. Nye Bevan May 2012 #21

no it's more that he would say something against the pilot piloting the plane treestar May 2012 #24

"Oh great, we have a black guy flying this plane" obamanut2012 May 2012 #85

+1000000000 blueamy66 May 2012 #108

How so? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #121

It's a matter of several things. Honeycombe8 May 2012 #20

+1 well said spooky3 May 2012 #114

"Geezerdom"! LOL. I'm going to steal your term....that is so good. nt Honeycombe8 May 2012 #180

No, its not. If she personally kicked his ass off the plane undeterred May 2012 #23

I don't think 'politically incorrect' and 'insulting' are quite the same. randome May 2012 #33

'for politically incorrect speech' marmar May 2012 #34

You're right, of course. Cerridwen May 2012 #60

Pilots have a LOT of leeway to remove passengers if there's even a chance Blue_Tires May 2012 #74

Employees have a right to not be discriminated against and harassed obamanut2012 May 2012 #83

Since when chervilant May 2012 #102

He questioned the plane's safety in a way that would alarm other passengers. McCamy Taylor May 2012 #160

No, but hostile passengers yes. justice1 May 2012 #164

When captaining an airplane or a ship Ikonoklast May 2012 #172

total and complete asshole deserving of whatever he got. CTyankee May 2012 #19

Post removed Post removed May 2012 #22

So what if it had been a black pilot? treestar May 2012 #26

Yes, It would be. People are idiots. Dealing with them is part of the job. Logical May 2012 #29

You can get kicked off a plane for harassing the personnel or other passengers. Given that people Luminous Animal May 2012 #39

I have worked fast food, drug stores, etc. If I kicked out every rude customer I would feel stupid! Logical May 2012 #40

I've worked retail for many years and I kicked out every customer Luminous Animal May 2012 #73

I have worked retail management and have kicked out customers obamanut2012 May 2012 #87

And it shows that behavior is not tolerated treestar May 2012 #94

I disagree with your assertion that the pilot was "emotional". Quantess May 2012 #170

Dealing with people is not part of a pilots job. Flying the plane is. Luminous Animal May 2012 #52

Seems like this idiot was dealth with nicely. nt RedCappedBandit May 2012 #55

She dealt with him. Iggo May 2012 #81

People are idiots?! chervilant May 2012 #103

And the pilot did indeed, as part of her job, deal with this particular idiot in a most efficient an LanternWaste May 2012 #106

She was quite logical, he was the insecure, whiny baby who couldn't handle things. Darth_Kitten May 2012 #27

I agree he was a sexist idiot. But ignoring them is the best solution. n-t Logical May 2012 #31

Nah, sometimes you have to nip them in the bud. Darth_Kitten May 2012 #36

You can't just ignore disruptive people in the confines of an airplane. SunSeeker May 2012 #48

+1 treestar May 2012 #95

Why ignore them when kicking them off the plane is so much fun?! nt ZombieHorde May 2012 #78

That is the worst thing to do with sexist idiots obamanut2012 May 2012 #88

Yeah, right chervilant May 2012 #105

That there is in fact, no one Best Solution in dealing with anti-social behavior LanternWaste May 2012 #123

I take it you don't have daughters- secondvariety May 2012 #32

You are wrong again. Two daughters. Both in College. Both amazing. So quit the whining. Logical May 2012 #35

Me too. And if my daughter was a pilot, I would be prouder of her if she laughed off Nye Bevan May 2012 #42

+1000, but no one here will understand your point. n-t Logical May 2012 #46

Where in that article did it state that the pilot threw a hissy fit? Luminous Animal May 2012 #51

Nice catch. SunSeeker May 2012 #58

throwing a hissy fit? And you know this how, dear? cali May 2012 #54

Now now. Let's try to keep this civilized. Nye Bevan May 2012 #57

Yes, the f-word is reserved for the lords of the manor. SunSeeker May 2012 #62

Fuck you... Fawke Em May 2012 #84

I'd let it pass. EOTE May 2012 #100

+1 NCTraveler May 2012 #136

how quaint, sweetpea. cali May 2012 #86

You turned this uncivilized as soon as you accused a female pilot who refused to be harassed... EOTE May 2012 #99

Wow... chervilant May 2012 #109

hissy fit? Because that is what women do? Throw hissy fits? CBGLuthier May 2012 #82

Standing up for your rights is "throwing a hissyfit"? obamanut2012 May 2012 #90

What specifically leads you to conclude the pilot threw a "hissyfit"? LanternWaste May 2012 #129

BTW , 6-0 to keep. Thanks jury (nt) Nye Bevan May 2012 #132

Yet it continues to beg the question... LanternWaste May 2012 #134

When your daughters are trying to do their job in a professional manner and some idiots won't leave Luminous Animal May 2012 #43

My daughters have already dealt with their share of sexist fools. And handled them perfect! n-t Logical May 2012 #45

It's too bad that all women don't have your daughter's superwoman powers Luminous Animal May 2012 #49

I think you have a point about some people being overly sensitive. BUT... randome May 2012 #53

And the pilot could have chosen to laugh in the guy's face and he might have quieted down... Luminous Animal May 2012 #72

Starting with their chervilant May 2012 #111

They haven't even gotten out of college but have already encountered "their share of sexist fools?" spooky3 May 2012 #116

+1000 Luminous Animal May 2012 #174

So, I guess secondvariety May 2012 #59

It's a mystery! Luminous Animal May 2012 #75

then they haven't started working in careers yet and haven't yet told you about the spooky3 May 2012 #115

sticks n stones may break my bones but words.... chknltl May 2012 #25

Good! Odin2005 May 2012 #28

K&R DeSwiss May 2012 #30

Not at all! LadyHawkAZ May 2012 #41

My apologies..... DeSwiss May 2012 #47

LOL! Ok, you got me to click the link. Heeeeelarious! SunSeeker May 2012 #64

Oooh..... DeSwiss May 2012 #71

lolz My exact thought reading the OP! JNelson6563 May 2012 #104

omg -- I hadn't heard about that story yet fishwax May 2012 #141

Well done -- way to protect and respect employees! obamanut2012 May 2012 #44

That's what he gets for being a douche! n/t backscatter712 May 2012 #50

Being a douche is probably the only way Fawke Em May 2012 #91

A pilot has the same authority as the Captain of a ship gort May 2012 #56

Would Captain Chelsey Sullenberger have thrown someone off a plane Nye Bevan May 2012 #61

You're right, of course. Cerridwen May 2012 #66

Any responsible pilot would kick a loud, disruptive passenger off a plane. SunSeeker May 2012 #69

Thing is, he's a man, he wouldn't be insulted. Darth_Kitten May 2012 #80

And he's lived his whole life as a man treestar May 2012 #96

Nor is it likely that chervilant May 2012 #110

Yup. Darth_Kitten May 2012 #177

Good point... wickerwoman May 2012 #155

Good! underseasurveyor May 2012 #63

She should have ejected him while the plane was taking off. Auntie Bush May 2012 #65

The real headline should be "How would some people in this thread react if the pilot were male?" justiceischeap May 2012 #67

I wonder, if the pilot was a Texan, and he threw someone off for making a crack about "rednecks", Nye Bevan May 2012 #70

Are you seriously arguing that calling someone a "redneck" is comparable to spooky3 May 2012 #117

This passenger kept the female pilot in a low paying job? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #124

You completely missed the point--which is that all of the examples I gave were of spooky3 May 2012 #181

hate speach is hate speach. RitchieRich May 2012 #147

You also have missed the point, which is that under US law, different behavior and speech are spooky3 May 2012 #182

+1 treestar May 2012 #97

Likely he'd have been labeled an authoritarian, high on his own power 4th law of robotics May 2012 #122

I'm just suggesting there would be a different response justiceischeap May 2012 #131

I haven't heard of a male pilot tossing someone off because they were personally offended 4th law of robotics May 2012 #133

I imagine that we often imagine hypothetical scenarios only in such a way LanternWaste May 2012 #135

Possibly, but I was replying to such a hypothetical 4th law of robotics May 2012 #137

It certainly does LanternWaste May 2012 #153

"when we shave vertically, it's much more effective that shaving horizontally" 4th law of robotics May 2012 #163

What an odd post. Police = airline pilots? Luminous Animal May 2012 #173

I never said police = airline pilots 4th law of robotics May 2012 #175

Two of six jurors voted "Let 'em crash" NoPasaran May 2012 #76

They bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into! LadyHawkAZ May 2012 #79

Nice! RitchieRich May 2012 #149

I am a horrible person LadyHawkAZ May 2012 #157

just... RitchieRich May 2012 #159

I'm not that horrible. LadyHawkAZ May 2012 #161

pilots can boot people who are loud and annoying Skittles May 2012 #77

Good for her! ZERO tolerance for this type of crap! She's the captain, CTyankee May 2012 #89

I don't like the term 'zero tolerance'. randome May 2012 #101

I didn't mean it to be taken as a threat of violence, just of not putting up with CTyankee May 2012 #113

I hear ya! randome May 2012 #126

+ a gazillion! chervilant May 2012 #112

Sending this story to my daughters today. Nobody has to deal with sexist harassment in this day nt riderinthestorm May 2012 #92

Good for her. K&R. n/t DLevine May 2012 #98

Anybody who is in customer SERVICE has to deal with assholes. Bake May 2012 #119

Pilots are not the front line of customer service. The stewards are riderinthestorm May 2012 #125

"Was the passenger a jerk? Yes. And he paid for that privilege." NCTraveler May 2012 #140

Did he punch anybody? Bake May 2012 #144

I am sorry your employer allowed that. NCTraveler May 2012 #165

I've been in similar situations with horrible customers jp11 May 2012 #178

and sometimes they deal with assholes by refusing further service fishwax May 2012 #143

And the pilot did indeed deal with the a**hole. LanternWaste May 2012 #154

I'm in a far more "customer service" job than a pilot, wickerwoman May 2012 #156

Bravo! meeksgeek May 2012 #167

word. nt StarryNight May 2012 #179

That asshole definitely deserved what he got. Initech May 2012 #130

Nobody Should Insult Their Pilot About ANYTHING ProfessorGAC May 2012 #138

This thread has been a real eye opener for me. n/t myrna minx May 2012 #139

good for the pilot -- and for the airline, for standing behind its workers fishwax May 2012 #142

Let's switch this around a bit .. suppose the pilot was a wingnut Bake May 2012 #145

If the passenger was loud, obnoxious and rude, the airline would have every right to. LanternWaste May 2012 #158

Female pilot tosses passenger off plane for sexist remarks bvar22 May 2012 #148

What a dope. He got exactly what he deserved - the boot. hifiguy May 2012 #150

ok, ok... RitchieRich May 2012 #151

come on, people... RitchieRich May 2012 #152

This is a plane safety issue. McCamy Taylor May 2012 #162

I guess I can understand this, but I really can't applaud the pilot for it... jobycom May 2012 #166

Do THey Get The Rush Limbaugh Show In Brazil Too? DallasNE May 2012 #168

Brazil doesn't appear to have these Goebbels controlling the meme. Good for them. freshwest May 2012 #171

He obviously hadn't heard of sky law. jp11 May 2012 #176