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freshwest

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33. Goodness, how many people were on this plane? No one survived from the pic I saw online.

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Fri Nov 6, 2015, 04:20 PM

Nov 2015

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/06/us-egypt-crash-idUSKCN0SV2ML20151106?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews

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BREAKING--- Black boxes show bomb brought down Russian jet !!! [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 OP

This is very bad....very bad Marrah_G Nov 2015 #1

No malfunctions heard on recovered Black Box. Bomb is heard!!! DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #4

I feel like the world war 3 is around the corner Marrah_G Nov 2015 #11

How would that happen, though? If it were THAT easy to start WWIII, then closeupready Nov 2015 #44

Let's not forget -- it was the asassination of Archduke Ferdinand that started WWI. FourScore Nov 2015 #65

Yes, but that called into play mutual defense agreements, heads of state, closeupready Nov 2015 #68

The signs are there CJCRANE Nov 2015 #126

Which means Russia will have to retatliate, right? n/t Tarheel_Dem Nov 2015 #2

Against who? Renew Deal Nov 2015 #7

And more, the US and Europeans will have to step it up flamingdem Nov 2015 #9

lol - lots of ways to respond. closeupready Nov 2015 #28

I am sure Russia still has plenty of very nasty spooks. hifiguy Nov 2015 #73

A bomb? As inside the plane? giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #3

Inside the plane... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #5

Wow.... msrizzo Nov 2015 #8

THIS DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #10

Damn. giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #12

What are they basing this on? Renew Deal Nov 2015 #6

This DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #13

link.? spanone Nov 2015 #40

... Spider Jerusalem Nov 2015 #14

They are now saying they specifically targeted a Russian passenger jet which is understandable. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #20

The loud boom on the recorder. nt B2G Nov 2015 #15

And a mechanical failure would not cause a loud boom? jberryhill Nov 2015 #19

European investigators on the ground-"This is not an accident." DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #23

It would also be loud, but it would also not suddenly stop the recording. jeff47 Nov 2015 #42

Experts Can Probably Tell The Difference in The Concussion ProfessorGAC Nov 2015 #50

That's what I said jberryhill Nov 2015 #51

Even mechanical failures take time to happen. krispos42 Nov 2015 #110

Your in-depth analysis certainly validates... LanternWaste Nov 2015 #54

What exactly is your problem with me Mr. Waste? B2G Nov 2015 #55

Time to take out ISIS LittleBlue Nov 2015 #16

Okay. Drop in when you get back from doing that jberryhill Nov 2015 #26

The Obama haters were marveling just weeks ago that Putin had cleaned em up in a week alcibiades_mystery Nov 2015 #36

His humanitarian impulse is laudable... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #39

Why? leftynyc Nov 2015 #70

ISIS needs to be confronted. I prefer the U S not go it alone./nt DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #83

LOL, the collation of the willing? Again? nt Logical Nov 2015 #106

Hardly alone leftynyc Nov 2015 #121

Putin has almost totally ignored ISIS. Nevernose Nov 2015 #125

I was referring to Russia taking off the gloves in Syria LittleBlue Nov 2015 #87

How? This is a serious question. How? uppityperson Nov 2015 #29

Let Russia deal with it. Stop arming Islamists LittleBlue Nov 2015 #88

I realized I'm operating on dated information. uppityperson Nov 2015 #92

ISIS is largely a political problem, not a military one LittleBlue Nov 2015 #94

Cool MFrohike Nov 2015 #98

That's up to Russia LittleBlue Nov 2015 #99

Heh MFrohike Nov 2015 #102

What the fuck are you going on about? I've been saying this for months LittleBlue Nov 2015 #103

Heh MFrohike Nov 2015 #105

Ummmmm lol. Invade Syria? Exactly the opposite. I'm talking about reinstalling Assad and you accuse LittleBlue Nov 2015 #111

Oh, I get it MFrohike Nov 2015 #115

But it's the opposite plan. CJCRANE Nov 2015 #123

It ends up being the same MFrohike Nov 2015 #130

They can install a little mini-Putin, who does what every other two bit despot does Calista241 Nov 2015 #127

Do you think we should discontinue supplying them arms FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #30

We should never have been arming them LittleBlue Nov 2015 #89

The Taliban did not exist when we armed the Mujahideen former9thward Nov 2015 #93

The CIA didn't just arm the Mujahideen. ronnie624 Nov 2015 #114

You first....link provided Lochloosa Nov 2015 #56

Nope LittleBlue Nov 2015 #90

Let the Russians have a go at them. backscatter712 Nov 2015 #86

Exactly LittleBlue Nov 2015 #91

They did such a fabulous job in Afghanistan jberryhill Nov 2015 #95

Big talk philosslayer Nov 2015 #100

See above. nt LittleBlue Nov 2015 #101

If ISIS did this, then it it time to up the air campaign against them. Dawson Leery Nov 2015 #17

About how many people do we need to kill in order to obtain peace? jberryhill Nov 2015 #24

Please ask DemocratSinceBirth the same question, since they agree. Dawson Leery Nov 2015 #25

You don't have your own opinions? jberryhill Nov 2015 #27

The professional left is showing it's hypocracy again. Dawson Leery Nov 2015 #34

I'm sorry, the professional left heterodoxy alert system must have been down. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #129

My opinion is ISIS needs to be confronted under a UN flag. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #45

That link guess to LittleBlue uppityperson Nov 2015 #32

Bombing campaigns don't win wars. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2015 #31

The only thing that will work against IS is to target its big contributors in KSA, Qatar and the GCC leveymg Nov 2015 #60

It feels like no one wants to get to the source of the problem... CJCRANE Nov 2015 #71

That's because politicians are bought and sold like NY Stocks or porkbelly futures on the leveymg Nov 2015 #75

Sigh, we will never go to the source of the problem, will we? smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #96

Even in WWII, they figured that out. It's the armchair generals that don't get it. nt eppur_se_muova Nov 2015 #78

France announced yesterday. moondust Nov 2015 #61

Hope Russia goes to the UN. Xolodno Nov 2015 #18

Thank you Al-Sisi for taking out the Muslim Brotherhood. Dawson Leery Nov 2015 #22

MB has long had its principal funders in two places: KSA and the CIA. leveymg Nov 2015 #62

IMO the tail is wagging the dog now. CJCRANE Nov 2015 #74

The silence about this is deafening in here. leveymg Nov 2015 #76

Yes, it's not like the old DU. CJCRANE Nov 2015 #80

DU's no longer a hospitable environment for original thought. In Skinner's parlance, those who "make leveymg Nov 2015 #81

Exactly. nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #128

Here's a link and info, no hard forensic evidence but most likely uppityperson Nov 2015 #21

I also read that British tourists reported that by paying about 30 bucks as a bribe, cwydro Nov 2015 #35

Would love to know when British and U.S. spies choie Nov 2015 #66

Goodness, how many people were on this plane? No one survived from the pic I saw online. freshwest Nov 2015 #33

About 250 alcibiades_mystery Nov 2015 #41

That is terrible, and a major loss. No wonder Putin stopped the flights. Thanks. n/t freshwest Nov 2015 #104

Can't believe it took this long to figure it out. Baitball Blogger Nov 2015 #37

CNN report says a US satellite detected a "heat flash" before the breakup LongTomH Nov 2015 #38

where's the link? no breaking news anywhere that says 'definitely' spanone Nov 2015 #43

Voila DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #52

thank you spanone Nov 2015 #53

You're welcome DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #57

And thousands of people are now left stranded .. ananda Nov 2015 #46

I read in The Telegraph today as many as 70,000 Russians are stranded. herding cats Nov 2015 #49

I saw yesterday that the British leftynyc Nov 2015 #69

While that had to seem bad for them... herding cats Nov 2015 #113

I also read there leftynyc Nov 2015 #120

Wait.... did anyone really think it was going to be something *other* than this? Schema Thing Nov 2015 #47

Some did. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #48

An RPG would not have surprised me. Rex Nov 2015 #58

They were WAY to high up for a RPG or a shoulder fired missile. EX500rider Nov 2015 #63

Ah, I didn't know many details about the flight. Rex Nov 2015 #64

They were at cruising altitude, GGJohn Nov 2015 #107

I initially presumed mechanical/structural failure or pilot error. LanternWaste Nov 2015 #59

I would rather wait for proof than jump to a possible false conclusion. uppityperson Nov 2015 #67

Mechanical failure happens, but almost never in an instantaneous fashion like this. Schema Thing Nov 2015 #82

Really, why wouldn't Isis put a bomb on a plane flamingdem Nov 2015 #72

The real question is, "If you bomb someone, shouldn't you expect them to bomb you?" L. Coyote Nov 2015 #77

Heh, if not dealing with relig fanatics who aspire to virgins, etc. flamingdem Nov 2015 #79

My theory is ISIS wants to destabilize Egypt so they can move in taking advantage of the mess Lee-Lee Nov 2015 #84

FWIW, ISIS should be wiped completely from the face of the earth hifiguy Nov 2015 #85

Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #97

Triple hear! lonestarnot Nov 2015 #108

Can't argue with that. eom. GGJohn Nov 2015 #109

Well, considering Assad is a Russian puppet figure, closeupready Nov 2015 #112

My primary point is that the US hifiguy Nov 2015 #117

We are never going to stay out of it davidn3600 Nov 2015 #118

Then we are doomed to both hifiguy Nov 2015 #119

The tail is now wagging the dog. CJCRANE Nov 2015 #124

NOW can we work with other Western nations and obliterate ISIS(L)? Wipe this scourge off the Earth! WinkyDink Nov 2015 #116

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