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LittleBlue

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103. What the fuck are you going on about? I've been saying this for months

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 09:51 PM

Nov 2015

You act like I'm brand new here. I've been opposed to putting our troops on the ground from the beginning and still am. How is "let's stop strategically assisting terrorists to fight Russia" a dodge?

I don't care what insurgency follows because it has nothing to do with us. Let Assad and Russia handle the insurgency, they are more than capable.

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BREAKING--- Black boxes show bomb brought down Russian jet !!! [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 OP

This is very bad....very bad Marrah_G Nov 2015 #1

No malfunctions heard on recovered Black Box. Bomb is heard!!! DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #4

I feel like the world war 3 is around the corner Marrah_G Nov 2015 #11

How would that happen, though? If it were THAT easy to start WWIII, then closeupready Nov 2015 #44

Let's not forget -- it was the asassination of Archduke Ferdinand that started WWI. FourScore Nov 2015 #65

Yes, but that called into play mutual defense agreements, heads of state, closeupready Nov 2015 #68

The signs are there CJCRANE Nov 2015 #126

Which means Russia will have to retatliate, right? n/t Tarheel_Dem Nov 2015 #2

Against who? Renew Deal Nov 2015 #7

And more, the US and Europeans will have to step it up flamingdem Nov 2015 #9

lol - lots of ways to respond. closeupready Nov 2015 #28

I am sure Russia still has plenty of very nasty spooks. hifiguy Nov 2015 #73

A bomb? As inside the plane? giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #3

Inside the plane... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #5

Wow.... msrizzo Nov 2015 #8

THIS DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #10

Damn. giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #12

What are they basing this on? Renew Deal Nov 2015 #6

This DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #13

link.? spanone Nov 2015 #40

... Spider Jerusalem Nov 2015 #14

They are now saying they specifically targeted a Russian passenger jet which is understandable. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #20

The loud boom on the recorder. nt B2G Nov 2015 #15

And a mechanical failure would not cause a loud boom? jberryhill Nov 2015 #19

European investigators on the ground-"This is not an accident." DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #23

It would also be loud, but it would also not suddenly stop the recording. jeff47 Nov 2015 #42

Experts Can Probably Tell The Difference in The Concussion ProfessorGAC Nov 2015 #50

That's what I said jberryhill Nov 2015 #51

Even mechanical failures take time to happen. krispos42 Nov 2015 #110

Your in-depth analysis certainly validates... LanternWaste Nov 2015 #54

What exactly is your problem with me Mr. Waste? B2G Nov 2015 #55

Time to take out ISIS LittleBlue Nov 2015 #16

Okay. Drop in when you get back from doing that jberryhill Nov 2015 #26

The Obama haters were marveling just weeks ago that Putin had cleaned em up in a week alcibiades_mystery Nov 2015 #36

His humanitarian impulse is laudable... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #39

Why? leftynyc Nov 2015 #70

ISIS needs to be confronted. I prefer the U S not go it alone./nt DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #83

LOL, the collation of the willing? Again? nt Logical Nov 2015 #106

Hardly alone leftynyc Nov 2015 #121

Putin has almost totally ignored ISIS. Nevernose Nov 2015 #125

I was referring to Russia taking off the gloves in Syria LittleBlue Nov 2015 #87

How? This is a serious question. How? uppityperson Nov 2015 #29

Let Russia deal with it. Stop arming Islamists LittleBlue Nov 2015 #88

I realized I'm operating on dated information. uppityperson Nov 2015 #92

ISIS is largely a political problem, not a military one LittleBlue Nov 2015 #94

Cool MFrohike Nov 2015 #98

That's up to Russia LittleBlue Nov 2015 #99

Heh MFrohike Nov 2015 #102

What the fuck are you going on about? I've been saying this for months LittleBlue Nov 2015 #103

Heh MFrohike Nov 2015 #105

Ummmmm lol. Invade Syria? Exactly the opposite. I'm talking about reinstalling Assad and you accuse LittleBlue Nov 2015 #111

Oh, I get it MFrohike Nov 2015 #115

But it's the opposite plan. CJCRANE Nov 2015 #123

It ends up being the same MFrohike Nov 2015 #130

They can install a little mini-Putin, who does what every other two bit despot does Calista241 Nov 2015 #127

Do you think we should discontinue supplying them arms FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #30

We should never have been arming them LittleBlue Nov 2015 #89

The Taliban did not exist when we armed the Mujahideen former9thward Nov 2015 #93

The CIA didn't just arm the Mujahideen. ronnie624 Nov 2015 #114

You first....link provided Lochloosa Nov 2015 #56

Nope LittleBlue Nov 2015 #90

Let the Russians have a go at them. backscatter712 Nov 2015 #86

Exactly LittleBlue Nov 2015 #91

They did such a fabulous job in Afghanistan jberryhill Nov 2015 #95

Big talk philosslayer Nov 2015 #100

See above. nt LittleBlue Nov 2015 #101

If ISIS did this, then it it time to up the air campaign against them. Dawson Leery Nov 2015 #17

About how many people do we need to kill in order to obtain peace? jberryhill Nov 2015 #24

Please ask DemocratSinceBirth the same question, since they agree. Dawson Leery Nov 2015 #25

You don't have your own opinions? jberryhill Nov 2015 #27

The professional left is showing it's hypocracy again. Dawson Leery Nov 2015 #34

I'm sorry, the professional left heterodoxy alert system must have been down. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #129

My opinion is ISIS needs to be confronted under a UN flag. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #45

That link guess to LittleBlue uppityperson Nov 2015 #32

Bombing campaigns don't win wars. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2015 #31

The only thing that will work against IS is to target its big contributors in KSA, Qatar and the GCC leveymg Nov 2015 #60

It feels like no one wants to get to the source of the problem... CJCRANE Nov 2015 #71

That's because politicians are bought and sold like NY Stocks or porkbelly futures on the leveymg Nov 2015 #75

Sigh, we will never go to the source of the problem, will we? smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #96

Even in WWII, they figured that out. It's the armchair generals that don't get it. nt eppur_se_muova Nov 2015 #78

France announced yesterday. moondust Nov 2015 #61

Hope Russia goes to the UN. Xolodno Nov 2015 #18

Thank you Al-Sisi for taking out the Muslim Brotherhood. Dawson Leery Nov 2015 #22

MB has long had its principal funders in two places: KSA and the CIA. leveymg Nov 2015 #62

IMO the tail is wagging the dog now. CJCRANE Nov 2015 #74

The silence about this is deafening in here. leveymg Nov 2015 #76

Yes, it's not like the old DU. CJCRANE Nov 2015 #80

DU's no longer a hospitable environment for original thought. In Skinner's parlance, those who "make leveymg Nov 2015 #81

Exactly. nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #128

Here's a link and info, no hard forensic evidence but most likely uppityperson Nov 2015 #21

I also read that British tourists reported that by paying about 30 bucks as a bribe, cwydro Nov 2015 #35

Would love to know when British and U.S. spies choie Nov 2015 #66

Goodness, how many people were on this plane? No one survived from the pic I saw online. freshwest Nov 2015 #33

About 250 alcibiades_mystery Nov 2015 #41

That is terrible, and a major loss. No wonder Putin stopped the flights. Thanks. n/t freshwest Nov 2015 #104

Can't believe it took this long to figure it out. Baitball Blogger Nov 2015 #37

CNN report says a US satellite detected a "heat flash" before the breakup LongTomH Nov 2015 #38

where's the link? no breaking news anywhere that says 'definitely' spanone Nov 2015 #43

Voila DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #52

thank you spanone Nov 2015 #53

You're welcome DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #57

And thousands of people are now left stranded .. ananda Nov 2015 #46

I read in The Telegraph today as many as 70,000 Russians are stranded. herding cats Nov 2015 #49

I saw yesterday that the British leftynyc Nov 2015 #69

While that had to seem bad for them... herding cats Nov 2015 #113

I also read there leftynyc Nov 2015 #120

Wait.... did anyone really think it was going to be something *other* than this? Schema Thing Nov 2015 #47

Some did. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #48

An RPG would not have surprised me. Rex Nov 2015 #58

They were WAY to high up for a RPG or a shoulder fired missile. EX500rider Nov 2015 #63

Ah, I didn't know many details about the flight. Rex Nov 2015 #64

They were at cruising altitude, GGJohn Nov 2015 #107

I initially presumed mechanical/structural failure or pilot error. LanternWaste Nov 2015 #59

I would rather wait for proof than jump to a possible false conclusion. uppityperson Nov 2015 #67

Mechanical failure happens, but almost never in an instantaneous fashion like this. Schema Thing Nov 2015 #82

Really, why wouldn't Isis put a bomb on a plane flamingdem Nov 2015 #72

The real question is, "If you bomb someone, shouldn't you expect them to bomb you?" L. Coyote Nov 2015 #77

Heh, if not dealing with relig fanatics who aspire to virgins, etc. flamingdem Nov 2015 #79

My theory is ISIS wants to destabilize Egypt so they can move in taking advantage of the mess Lee-Lee Nov 2015 #84

FWIW, ISIS should be wiped completely from the face of the earth hifiguy Nov 2015 #85

Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #97

Triple hear! lonestarnot Nov 2015 #108

Can't argue with that. eom. GGJohn Nov 2015 #109

Well, considering Assad is a Russian puppet figure, closeupready Nov 2015 #112

My primary point is that the US hifiguy Nov 2015 #117

We are never going to stay out of it davidn3600 Nov 2015 #118

Then we are doomed to both hifiguy Nov 2015 #119

The tail is now wagging the dog. CJCRANE Nov 2015 #124

NOW can we work with other Western nations and obliterate ISIS(L)? Wipe this scourge off the Earth! WinkyDink Nov 2015 #116

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