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48. He was a marvelous drummer in Genesis and his side band of the era,

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:47 PM

Nov 2015

the excellent fusion group Brand X. Liked him plenty on "A Trick of the Tail" and "Wind And Wuthering", the first two post-Gabriel Genesis LPs. Saw Genesis with Bill Bruford on drums and Phil as front man back in 1976 or 1977. Loved him and the band.

Then Steve Hackett left the band and Collins, Banks and Rutherford decided they'd rather be millionaires and make crappy music than be moderately well-off making wonderful music.

Has any band that once was so good ever fallen further?

And regarding Collins' solo career, we shall not speak of this again.

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There's a Petition to Stop Phil Collins From Coming Out of Retirement [View all] NCTraveler Nov 2015 OP

I hope Phil goes ahead and makes a new album. Kalidurga Nov 2015 #1

Great publicity for Phil FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #2

I love Phil and if he makes an album called "Ring Around The Rosey" I'll be sure to buy it. Go Phil monmouth4 Nov 2015 #3

I predict that the new Phil Collins album will be in the top 10 leftofcool Nov 2015 #4

This is really just great free advertisement. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #5

Me too. I like him. Might go get me a single right now for my ipad. bravenak Nov 2015 #51

I lived through the 80's. OnyxCollie Nov 2015 #6

Yeah, me too. Nitram Nov 2015 #7

Well, We Certainly Agree on McDonald ProfessorGAC Nov 2015 #97

How can you not love this? seaglass Nov 2015 #102

How can I not love it? Let me count the ways. Nitram Nov 2015 #117

Where ryan_cats Nov 2015 #25

I lived through the 80s dominated by 60s era artists. Jesus Malverde Nov 2015 #66

Just more proof of the impoverished lack of talent in 80s bands. Nitram Nov 2015 #98

I will sign this petition in blood ten times over if it will keep him retired Orrex Nov 2015 #8

I'll listen to anything Phil Collins wants to release... Tom_Foolery Nov 2015 #9

What Phil Collins did to Motown songs was a crime against music. GreatGazoo Nov 2015 #10

Lol Liberal_in_LA Nov 2015 #59

The horror! Nitram Nov 2015 #118

Great drummer, decent singer, good songwriter. Some folks don't know wtf they are talking about. CBGLuthier Nov 2015 #11

You know we're talking about Phil Collins, right? Orrex Nov 2015 #13

Can you do better? CBGLuthier Nov 2015 #14

GREAT song! Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #15

I will admit to not being a fan of Sussudio but to make Mr. Collins out to be some kind of CBGLuthier Nov 2015 #18

As a songwriter, myself... Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #19

I have to agree with a sentiment I read earlier today about this nonsense CBGLuthier Nov 2015 #21

I once heard him described... Orrex Nov 2015 #35

I had one of those singles. mattclearing Nov 2015 #86

Dr H, I don't want to hurt your feelings. Nitram Nov 2015 #119

Actually, my music is mostly upbeat Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #123

Thanks, I'll take a listen. Nitram Nov 2015 #128

Let me know what you think... Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #135

Fun music, both groups. Nitram Nov 2015 #136

Thanks! Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #137

Su ryan_cats Nov 2015 #34

It was also three decades ago, and it was hardly a solo Collins effort Orrex Nov 2015 #20

No, the cause for all that was, yup you guessed it... Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #22

Well, all right. I'll give you that one. Orrex Nov 2015 #23

With "Face Value" on repeat. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #24

Nuclear, eh? Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2015 #38

Awesome pic ryan_cats Nov 2015 #46

LOL, yes, number 1 in US, 10 in Canada and 13 in UK, what a failure! Nt Logical Nov 2015 #31

I didn't say they were failures; I said they were awful. And I'm right. Orrex Nov 2015 #33

Making a hit record doesn't prove that you are a great musician. Nitram Nov 2015 #120

Heh! And everyone is all over my ass when I comment about a truly shitty band from Canada... madinmaryland Nov 2015 #72

That's a silly rebuttal. Orrex Nov 2015 #16

I'd really love to see a Genesis reunion. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2015 #56

... Jesus Malverde Nov 2015 #67

I have a bootleg album of a Genesis "reunion" postatomic Nov 2015 #92

Please demonstrate what you are saying. All this anti-Phil Collins BS sounds like music snobbery. nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #29

Oh, please--you're flailing. Orrex Nov 2015 #32

So, music snobbery then... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #36

Why don't you tell us all why it's snobbery, then? Orrex Nov 2015 #39

If you don't like Collins' music, why do you listen to it? nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #40

Because for 15 years straight it played on constantly on every station Orrex Nov 2015 #42

No, you have your opinion of Collins' music. And my opinion is it's music snobbery. Are you a... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #44

You've demanded that I justify my opinon; I ask that you clarify yours. Orrex Nov 2015 #49

Yes, you got me. I'm Phil Collins. ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #50

Well, that might explain a few things. Orrex Nov 2015 #52

Chisolm, that's a cheap trick. Nitram Nov 2015 #122

Better Cheap Trick than Phil Collins Orrex Nov 2015 #150

I'll totally agree with you there! Nitram Nov 2015 #152

Change the channel--or develop your own playlist so you don't have to be "infected" then! MADem Nov 2015 #131

When the radio is mine to change, I change it Orrex Nov 2015 #134

Earbuds! MADem Nov 2015 #156

Leave the restaurant in the middle of the meal? Nitram Nov 2015 #153

Pick restaurants that don't play piped-in muzak. Shop online! MADem Nov 2015 #155

Phil Collins is not the end of civilization; he is merely proof of its end. Orrex Nov 2015 #158

That' right, let Phil Collins rule my life! Make all my culinary and shopping decisions for me! Nitram Nov 2015 #159

I hear Orrex is an easy lover... Blue_Tires Nov 2015 #154

He's got a hold on you, believe it! MADem Nov 2015 #157

If it's music snobbery, so be it. Nitram Nov 2015 #121

Far too many people get their opinions from cartoons LanternWaste Nov 2015 #37

Exactly. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2015 #69

I love Phil Collins and I saw Genesis in Syracuse around 1982 adigal Nov 2015 #113

I love Phil Collins. Stellar Nov 2015 #12

Can we get Genesis Phil Collins instead of Lion King Phil Collins? nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #17

I think 'Tarzan' was the film Collins scored. Aristus Nov 2015 #27

you are correct, so, Genesis Phil Collins instead of Broadway musical Phil Collins. geek tragedy Nov 2015 #28

great more garbage. who cant get enough of i cant dance. ugh \, where do i sign saturnsring Nov 2015 #26

That's just mean. nt 2naSalit Nov 2015 #30

...I-I like Phil Collins... Shandris Nov 2015 #41

Good. I don't mind... SidDithers Nov 2015 #43

Not a huge fan, but this kind of stuff blows whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #45

Collins would be the first to tell you that free advertising never "blows". nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #47

He was a marvelous drummer in Genesis and his side band of the era, hifiguy Nov 2015 #48

Yes, when Hackett left it was pretty much over for Genesis ms liberty Nov 2015 #78

So if he comes out of retirement and cuts a new album, SheilaT Nov 2015 #53

That's the word around the block. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #54

Ohhhkay. SheilaT Nov 2015 #55

Now that's funny. Solly Mack Nov 2015 #57

Hold on... Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #58

"Land of Confusion" is one of my favorite songs of all time. BlueStater Nov 2015 #60

Great ryan_cats Nov 2015 #73

Wow. You're so cool. You hate Phil Collins. BlueStater Nov 2015 #75

Well ryan_cats Nov 2015 #77

I am forced to listen to it all the time. In stores, waiting rooms, other people's radios. morningfog Nov 2015 #132

You guys sound so unbearably whiny. It's pathetic. BlueStater Nov 2015 #140

What is whiny is Phil Collins voice. Ugh. It's insufferable. morningfog Nov 2015 #141

Alright, I'm done with this incredibly stupid thread. BlueStater Nov 2015 #143

I don't believe anyone enjoys him, they just think it is cool to go against the grain. morningfog Nov 2015 #148

The video is epic! backscatter712 Nov 2015 #138

But Jesus He Knows Me! backscatter712 Nov 2015 #139

I'd successfully blocked out Phil Collins and his monotonous, depressive work KittyWampus Nov 2015 #61

Hey, music snobs! I LIKE HIM. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2015 #62

Excellent defense ryan_cats Nov 2015 #74

So you are the judge of what's "insipid"? Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2015 #79

I ryan_cats Nov 2015 #87

Brian May and the Sex Pistols is your idea of a joke? Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2015 #88

I ryan_cats Nov 2015 #89

Mr Light, short answer: Phil Collins. Nitram Nov 2015 #125

Who's Dorian Gray Nov 2015 #85

Damn skippy! MrScorpio Nov 2015 #109

i fully support him if he's gonna go back to making mid-70's Genesis albums 0rganism Nov 2015 #63

Had the petition been serious, LuvNewcastle Nov 2015 #64

Not as long as Hall and Oates are still allowed to wander the streets freely. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #65

Heh. +1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2015 #70

Haters gonna hate. Straw Man Nov 2015 #107

literally LOL. Especially about the part Bottoms_Up Nov 2015 #68

That is just stupid, who cares really? Rex Nov 2015 #71

I agree. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2015 #80

Art must not be stopped! Sing, Phill, Sing. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #76

A quote from a famous composer. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2015 #81

Art is from the soul of the artist. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #83

As I just quoted a couple of rock 'n' roll gods. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2015 #91

No, Agnostic, some music comes from the ass and some critics write from the soul. Nitram Nov 2015 #126

This thread is hilarious cemaphonic Nov 2015 #82

I still say the REAL musical abomination is still wandering the streets... Archae Nov 2015 #84

Somebody ryan_cats Nov 2015 #94

I heard "Land of Confusion" again yesterday Orrex Nov 2015 #90

Congrats on wasting three minutes of your life listening to a song you know you don't like. n/t BlueStater Nov 2015 #93

You apparently live in an interesting world... Orrex Nov 2015 #95

Exactly Orrex. Nitram Nov 2015 #127

People who claim a certain style or artist "sucks" ... Straw Man Nov 2015 #96

Equally, then, no music is "good" Orrex Nov 2015 #99

Only if ... Straw Man Nov 2015 #100

What else might it mean, in this context? Orrex Nov 2015 #101

OK. Straw Man Nov 2015 #103

I don't believe that anyone here made any claims about the listeners. Orrex Nov 2015 #105

Got it. Straw Man Nov 2015 #106

The only name-calling here is by those calling other people "music snobs" Orrex Nov 2015 #110

Did I call anyone a "music snob"? Straw Man Nov 2015 #111

Well, now you're just making stuff up. Orrex Nov 2015 #112

Oh, puh-leeze ... Straw Man Nov 2015 #114

You're all over the map Orrex Nov 2015 #115

Tired of playing silly argument games. Straw Man Nov 2015 #116

Mr. Man, it looked like "silly argument games" was your thing. Nitram Nov 2015 #129

Gave a pass? Straw Man Nov 2015 #146

Not an atttorney. A remedial class in rhetoric. Nitram Nov 2015 #147

Do tell. Straw Man Nov 2015 #149

You lost me there, dude. Nitram Nov 2015 #151

I'm not surprised. Straw Man Nov 2015 #160

No errrors in English usage. Nitram Nov 2015 #162

OK. Straw Man Nov 2015 #163

That sucked. morningfog Nov 2015 #142

So did that. Straw Man Nov 2015 #144

I hope he does DonCoquixote Nov 2015 #104

I'm a huge Phil Collins fan MrScorpio Nov 2015 #108

I signed the petition. Collins is ee-vil personified. GOLGO 13 Nov 2015 #124

Who is Brian to Pee on Phil's ambitions? MADem Nov 2015 #130

Would love it if yesphan Nov 2015 #133

How juvenile. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #145

Hey it's Brit Pop the British Leyland of music. It's an industry not an art. Don't lose sleep over Monk06 Nov 2015 #161