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MH1

(19,248 posts)
5. "Let them practice their religion freely" -- NO.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 10:32 AM
Nov 2015

Not when their religion involves treating women as property.

If someone wants to move to my country, they need to live to a certain minimum standards of human rights. If they refuse to do that, they can stay and fight their adversaries in their country, fight over which barbaric rulers will rule them all.


Otherwise I think your sentiments have a lot of merit. But we have to realize that religion - or beliefs people ascribe to their own religion, whether their sacred texts really support those beliefs or not - is a prime motivator for these acts of terrorism, and we must face that fact and come up with realistic solutions to address it.

And frankly if someone wants to beat his wife and force her to cover from head to toe in a heavy black garment in 105 degree heat, and she is not allowed to leave the house without an "appropriate" male companion, and if she is raped then SHE will be punished by being stoned to death, or having acid thrown in her face if she rejects a suitor ... fuck that shit, don't bring it here. We already have enough misogyny and other extremism to deal with.

I know that the many of the refugees from mid-east conflicts don't conform to the negative stereotype I wrote above. Fine. Those folks will have zero problem living within our laws, and giving up their burqas and other forms of repression.

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Good points but I prefer: 1) stop supporting jihadis 2) then let the Syrians go home CJCRANE Nov 2015 #1
Let them practice their religion freely hack89 Nov 2015 #2
+1000 nt Logical Nov 2015 #7
I agree entirely, but look at the Western news yesterday before the Paris attacks. Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #3
Yes, some of us here said that after 9/11, but fat chance of that.. bemildred Nov 2015 #4
"Let them practice their religion freely" -- NO. MH1 Nov 2015 #5
+1000, people do not understand this! nt Logical Nov 2015 #6
Exactly! Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #17
I have no respect for anyone who engages in the misogyny of a religion. randys1 Nov 2015 #27
Thank you. None of that stuff belongs in a free country. We should not Nay Nov 2015 #29
They want to establish a fucking caliphate across Europe! randome Nov 2015 #8
"They" Bucky Nov 2015 #25
"They" meaning members of the death cult, ISIS/Daesh. randome Nov 2015 #26
Death cults... exactly. Bucky Nov 2015 #28
Kneejerk finger-pointing after Paris attacks bemildred Nov 2015 #9
Exactly right philosslayer Nov 2015 #10
Indeed. nt bemildred Nov 2015 #11
They also picked those areas because they could move more freely underpants Nov 2015 #13
I think the OP is seeing what it looks for there. bemildred Nov 2015 #19
The tried and true solution to these things seems to be jack_krass Nov 2015 #12
''Wars, guns, and violence won't solve this problem.'' Octafish Nov 2015 #14
I think you're wrong about most of this. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2015 #15
So are you ready to sign up? philosslayer Nov 2015 #16
That's not even close to a thoughtful response. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #18
We've been bombing ISIS for months philosslayer Nov 2015 #20
Yammering away. Your own OP assumes war, to prosecute as criminals those who are combatants Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #21
Based on reports.... philosslayer Nov 2015 #22
That's not what I'm gathering entirely nor would I assume such while it remains unknown. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #23
The guilty (or suspected guilty) are being taken into custody as we speak philosslayer Nov 2015 #24
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