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Scootaloo

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60. There's an important distinction though.

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 06:16 PM

Nov 2015

Here on Du there are very few Muslims or people who "come from" Islam. nah, for the great majority we're either Christians, or people who come from Christianity, living in societies strongly informed by Christianity. We don't really have much "point of connection" with these former Muslims as we would with Christians doing the same.

So when brought here, the object is not to provoke thought or introspection, but to reinforce existing bias.

Remember back, not too long ago, Bill Cosby had some negative things to say about some aspects of blackness in America? Right or wrong, his intended audience was other black people who, whether they agree or disagreed with him, at least knew where he was coming from, that shared point of connection. And then you had the white racists who used Bill Cosby as a "voice of truth<" supposedly supporting their already-present assumptions of inherent black dysfunctions

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People Who Left Islam Are Explaining Why Using the #ExMuslimBecause Hashtag [View all] FLPanhandle Nov 2015 OP

An opportunity for anti-Muslim rants. How special to generalize, and your comment at the end" still_one Nov 2015 #1

As an atheist, all religions are silly to me FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #4

and that is fine, but the statement in the OP signled out Muslims, and that was my point. I suspect still_one Nov 2015 #6

You're confusing a belief system... MellowDem Nov 2015 #8

No, that was intentional to present the trouble with generalizations. I did that to put emphasis on still_one Nov 2015 #13

Islam is a very bigoted... MellowDem Nov 2015 #16

Islam is an umbrella term, not a specific belief system. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2015 #19

The dogma and texts of Islam... MellowDem Nov 2015 #25

So's christianity, too, if you practice it on all cylinders. MADem Nov 2015 #76

Bullshit! ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #65

I doubt it, look at how DU acted with all the Mormons, now ex-Mormons who resigned from their... Humanist_Activist Nov 2015 #68

Islam is a belief system... MellowDem Nov 2015 #7

See my post 13. It was to put emphasis on prejudice. As far as your comment regarding Islam has a still_one Nov 2015 #18

Am I "Islamicphobic"? True Earthling Nov 2015 #84

+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #88

Being African isn't a religion. Oneironaut Nov 2015 #11

People say that about Christians all the fucking time ie 'they are Christians but not fundie nut Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #27

It's actually an anti-generalization statement. True Earthling Nov 2015 #82

So we are taking that one man's opinion treestar Nov 2015 #2

Yes, because it is. MellowDem Nov 2015 #10

Have you read how the New Testament deals with the "Jewish issue". I know exactly where you are still_one Nov 2015 #20

Not very well... MellowDem Nov 2015 #22

Read the book of John sometime still_one Nov 2015 #24

Skip the OT right? MellowDem Nov 2015 #26

nope, just as bad still_one Nov 2015 #30

where in the Koran does it say treestar Nov 2015 #39

This one is problematic... MellowDem Nov 2015 #47

very sexist but they don't say treestar Nov 2015 #54

And then you strike her... MellowDem Nov 2015 #63

It would be nice if people would educate themselves on what is really taught in various religions snooper2 Nov 2015 #14

Many people do educate themselves on what is really taught in various religions FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #15

Extremists exist in every religion treestar Nov 2015 #40

simple question, do you think one who wants Sharia Law implemented is an extremist? snooper2 Nov 2015 #43

So where in Sharia Law does it say treestar Nov 2015 #44

we can go there in a minute, first the question- Do you think one wanting Sharia Law is an extremist snooper2 Nov 2015 #45

Yes, of course. smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #49

To me it would be treestar Nov 2015 #55

several hundred million muslims believe in Sharia law and would like it implemented snooper2 Nov 2015 #91

By definition. hifiguy Nov 2015 #89

He makes me sick. He just makes up shit, doesn't he? TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2015 #42

A week ago, DU would have recced the shit out of this. linuxman Nov 2015 #3

I'd pretend as much too if reality didn't confirm my biases LanternWaste Nov 2015 #9

Don't know if I'd agree that DU would have recced it. sibelian Nov 2015 #21

From the video... skypilot Nov 2015 #5

"#ExMuslimBecause my own mother told me I should be killed because I didn't believe the same things smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #12

I agree - and they are letting us know with this campaign flamingdem Nov 2015 #17

It's hearing Muslims talk about Islam that cured me of the idea of "Islamophobia". sibelian Nov 2015 #23

Let me know when there's an #ExJewishBecause mwrguy Nov 2015 #28

People talking about why they are no longer Christian is very common and there are all sorts of Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #31

There's an important distinction though. Scootaloo Nov 2015 #60

But that is not what the other poster said, he said 'tell me when Christians do this' and I did. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #85

I'm no longer christian because it's a bunch of 2000y old superstitions lindysalsagal Nov 2015 #80

let me know when Christians and Jews are ericson00 Nov 2015 #56

Let me know when there are large parts of the world it's not legal to be exJewish or exChristian. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2015 #64

Found these: Humanist_Activist Nov 2015 #69

Thank you mwrguy Nov 2015 #71

Really appreciating this thread... cilla4progress Nov 2015 #29

Rec for this reply FrodosPet Nov 2015 #72

Jury results: cwydro Nov 2015 #32

A BIG thank you to the jury that voted to Leave It FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #33

You're welcome. cwydro Nov 2015 #34

Seriously, enough of the censorship eissa Nov 2015 #46

seriously lindysalsagal Nov 2015 #81

I can see why some might be concerned el_bryanto Nov 2015 #52

Thanks for the Leave It vote. FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #59

RIDICULOUS alert. RIDICULOUS. sibelian Nov 2015 #37

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #50

Bravo! hifiguy Nov 2015 #90

Awful alert, but not surprising ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #66

This is less of a problem in secular regimes which kept a lid on religious fundamentalism. CJCRANE Nov 2015 #35

+1 Rex Nov 2015 #41

People who use religion to hurt others, extremist fundamentalists, are a big problem uppityperson Nov 2015 #36

Forget it, Jake; it's DemocraticUnderground. nt Codeine Nov 2015 #38

A few other great posts from Muslims FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #48

How big a risk are these people taking that they will be killed? 6chars Nov 2015 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Nov 2015 #51

Your dismissiveness of the serious nature of this event Trajan Nov 2015 #53

Some people dismiss what they don't want to see FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #57

replace ex-muslim with 'have been raped' climber3986 Nov 2015 #61

Ok, there IS such a thing as Muslim apostasy sibelian Nov 2015 #62

Considering the penalties for being an apostate in many Muslim countries, along with the danger... Humanist_Activist Nov 2015 #70

I'm dying to see Bill Maher tonight. ericson00 Nov 2015 #58

Bradford dad attacked by pickaxe thugs �for converting from Islam to Christianity (UK 2015) MowCowWhoHow III Nov 2015 #67

its sad agnostic102 Nov 2015 #73

Ignore the one or two that do that; it doesn't fit their narrative so they attack. FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #74

Welcome to DU femmedem Nov 2015 #92

And I'm sure you can probably find just as many people... Spider Jerusalem Nov 2015 #75

Probably more 6chars Nov 2015 #78

And Muslims in Western countries generally won't be killed for leaving, either. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2015 #83

generally not. in western countries. i like them odds. 6chars Nov 2015 #86

Replace 'ex-Muslim' with ex-Mormon' ... earthside Nov 2015 #79

November 11- Thousands of Mormons Plan to Abandon the Faith This Weekend- 98 DU rec's Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #87