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Retrograde

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24. They sort of did, at least one lesson
Mon May 28, 2012, 03:14 PM
May 2012

They don't actually report vote totals as a rule, since most places can't release them that quickly - they report the results of exit polls, and generally ignore mail-in votes. In 2000 they reported the poll results (led, IIRC, by a Bush cousin) when they thought the polls closed, but forgot that one section of Florida was on Central time and thus the polls hadn't closed there, which is why they initially retracted, and the first preliminary results made it look like it was too close to call, which was when Gore retracted his concession. Then there were the Harris shennanigans, the Brooks Brothers demonstrations, the hanging chad debacles and the court cases. I watched a lot of the whole mess from abroad.

This year I expect a lot of provisional ballots to be cast in states that have been trying for voter repression, as well as a larger number of early voters where states allow it which should skew exit polls. I don't know how and when all states count absentee or mail-in votes: my state encourages voting by mail and according to the county registrar's website my votes for the June elections have already been counted.

The GOP learned one big lesson in 2000, though: he who shouts first and loudest is usually the one heard.

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That says to me that women will be key HockeyMom May 2012 #1
I think we can dismiss that particular result cthulu2016 May 2012 #7
Married women, is what I heard. Control-Z May 2012 #20
This old white man SGMRTDARMY May 2012 #2
Old White men are his only winning demographic. And, there ain't enough of them. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2012 #3
10pm on Easter? undeterred May 2012 #5
Even though polls won't close in the most populous state until 11PM Eastern? Retrograde May 2012 #9
The media didn't seem to learn that lesson with Florida in 2000 mythology May 2012 #15
They sort of did, at least one lesson Retrograde May 2012 #24
Sorry 10 is too early. More like after 1 in the morning. hrmjustin May 2012 #21
Thank you for this analysis, cthulu. I know MANY Whites will vote for President Obama, but BlueCaliDem May 2012 #4
Just because they are not voting dem does not mean they are racsist. hrmjustin May 2012 #22
I know, that's why I wrote "social" inequality, too. BlueCaliDem May 2012 #25
Faux Noise and such try to make that sound so big treestar May 2012 #6
There's a White Vote? bhikkhu May 2012 #8
More than there is a women's vote cthulu2016 May 2012 #13
Interesting. I would have though age was more a determiner bhikkhu May 2012 #17
Age was huge in 2008. Obama won young whites handily. cthulu2016 May 2012 #19
Depends on what state you are looking at. Here in MN we are pretty white and we are very aware jwirr May 2012 #10
well sure. Here in Vermont, the President is more popular than anyplace cali May 2012 #27
Good historic perspective longship May 2012 #11
This old white man is voting for him, so he won't lose my vote. MineralMan May 2012 #12
Oh MM... cthulu2016 May 2012 #18
Our pasty family always has and always will vote democratic abelenkpe May 2012 #14
He didn't have it in 2008, so what's the big deal? bermudat May 2012 #16
WOMEN. There are more women voters than men voters. The Repubs made a mistake Honeycombe8 May 2012 #23
I don't consider 12% to be a BIG loss hfojvt May 2012 #26
It's nothing new but the media likes to play it up as something new. Life Long Dem May 2012 #28
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