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In reply to the discussion: Isis teenage 'poster girl' Samra Kesinovic 'beaten to death' as she tried to flee the group [View all]DetlefK
(16,670 posts)21. Can't find the specific articles again, but there's this:
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/islamischer-staat-einblicke-ins-schlachthaus-1.2339415
(article in german)
- ISIS is really nice to newcomers in the beginning.
- If you refuse to give up your passport, they immediately think you are a spy.
- One such suspected spy was interrogated in a blood-soaked room, eventually released, and then ISIS tossed a decapitated torso into his sleeping-room as a warning.
- One of the first questions is whether you want to be a fighter or a suicide-bomber. Suicide-bombers get preferential treatment.
- If you keep your cell-phone, or worse if you try to hide your cell-phone, you are a suspected spy.
- You are only allowed to leave ISIS and return to Europe if you have a special letter, signed by the Emir. If you try to return and can't show that letter to fellow ISIS-members, you will get killed. The heads of killed jihadists used to be displayed on poles, but nowadays they are simply discarded.
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/islamischer-staat-einblicke-ins-schlachthaus-1.2339415-2
- There is a "rite of passage" for new members: You have to kill somebody. In most cases a Muslim who was declared apostate.
- While ISIS' outwards brutality is well-known, the brutality against members was until recently (until ex-members told about it) unknown.
- Religious indoctrination begins right-away, but only those parts of the Qu'ran that justify barbaric acts.
- Young women join ISIS with the romantic illusion of marrying a great warrior. Then they become second or third wife to some fighter they don't know and find out that life isn't as luxurious as what they were used to from Europe.
- German authorities have discovered three categories of ISIS-members returning to Europe: 1. Battle-hardened jihadists. 2. Ex-members traumatized by the brutalities they have witnessed. 3. Ex-members who left ISIS again out of disillusionment and disgust for the atrocities. Nevertheless, all 3 are treated as potentially dangerous.
- The domestic intelligence-service "Federal Bureau for protection of the Constitution" is actively engaged in helping the returnees integrate into society again. Their agents help them with bureaucratic challenges, they help them with finding an appartment... It's really not their profession but a novel method of de-radicalization they are testing there.
(article in german)
- ISIS is really nice to newcomers in the beginning.
- If you refuse to give up your passport, they immediately think you are a spy.
- One such suspected spy was interrogated in a blood-soaked room, eventually released, and then ISIS tossed a decapitated torso into his sleeping-room as a warning.
- One of the first questions is whether you want to be a fighter or a suicide-bomber. Suicide-bombers get preferential treatment.
- If you keep your cell-phone, or worse if you try to hide your cell-phone, you are a suspected spy.
- You are only allowed to leave ISIS and return to Europe if you have a special letter, signed by the Emir. If you try to return and can't show that letter to fellow ISIS-members, you will get killed. The heads of killed jihadists used to be displayed on poles, but nowadays they are simply discarded.
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/islamischer-staat-einblicke-ins-schlachthaus-1.2339415-2
- There is a "rite of passage" for new members: You have to kill somebody. In most cases a Muslim who was declared apostate.
- While ISIS' outwards brutality is well-known, the brutality against members was until recently (until ex-members told about it) unknown.
- Religious indoctrination begins right-away, but only those parts of the Qu'ran that justify barbaric acts.
- Young women join ISIS with the romantic illusion of marrying a great warrior. Then they become second or third wife to some fighter they don't know and find out that life isn't as luxurious as what they were used to from Europe.
- German authorities have discovered three categories of ISIS-members returning to Europe: 1. Battle-hardened jihadists. 2. Ex-members traumatized by the brutalities they have witnessed. 3. Ex-members who left ISIS again out of disillusionment and disgust for the atrocities. Nevertheless, all 3 are treated as potentially dangerous.
- The domestic intelligence-service "Federal Bureau for protection of the Constitution" is actively engaged in helping the returnees integrate into society again. Their agents help them with bureaucratic challenges, they help them with finding an appartment... It's really not their profession but a novel method of de-radicalization they are testing there.
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Isis teenage 'poster girl' Samra Kesinovic 'beaten to death' as she tried to flee the group [View all]
oberliner
Nov 2015
OP
The Vienna people no longer have to worry about her slipping back in and going postal
951-Riverside
Nov 2015
#1
I find it mind boggling that these girls voluntarily entered this kind of life, and
LisaL
Nov 2015
#3
Running off to join a terrorist organization that is known for abusing women, was more than stupid
FLPanhandle
Nov 2015
#11
Their decision making abilities are underdeveloped, as well as the ability to control impulses
AZ Progressive
Nov 2015
#18
It's actually fairly normal for ISIS to brutally punish transgressing ISIS-members.
DetlefK
Nov 2015
#9
You'd think the headchopping and heart eating would be a major turnoff n/t
951-Riverside
Nov 2015
#14