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DetlefK

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21. Can't find the specific articles again, but there's this:
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 12:22 PM
Nov 2015
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/islamischer-staat-einblicke-ins-schlachthaus-1.2339415
(article in german)

- ISIS is really nice to newcomers in the beginning.
- If you refuse to give up your passport, they immediately think you are a spy.
- One such suspected spy was interrogated in a blood-soaked room, eventually released, and then ISIS tossed a decapitated torso into his sleeping-room as a warning.
- One of the first questions is whether you want to be a fighter or a suicide-bomber. Suicide-bombers get preferential treatment.
- If you keep your cell-phone, or worse if you try to hide your cell-phone, you are a suspected spy.
- You are only allowed to leave ISIS and return to Europe if you have a special letter, signed by the Emir. If you try to return and can't show that letter to fellow ISIS-members, you will get killed. The heads of killed jihadists used to be displayed on poles, but nowadays they are simply discarded.
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/islamischer-staat-einblicke-ins-schlachthaus-1.2339415-2
- There is a "rite of passage" for new members: You have to kill somebody. In most cases a Muslim who was declared apostate.
- While ISIS' outwards brutality is well-known, the brutality against members was until recently (until ex-members told about it) unknown.
- Religious indoctrination begins right-away, but only those parts of the Qu'ran that justify barbaric acts.
- Young women join ISIS with the romantic illusion of marrying a great warrior. Then they become second or third wife to some fighter they don't know and find out that life isn't as luxurious as what they were used to from Europe.
- German authorities have discovered three categories of ISIS-members returning to Europe: 1. Battle-hardened jihadists. 2. Ex-members traumatized by the brutalities they have witnessed. 3. Ex-members who left ISIS again out of disillusionment and disgust for the atrocities. Nevertheless, all 3 are treated as potentially dangerous.
- The domestic intelligence-service "Federal Bureau for protection of the Constitution" is actively engaged in helping the returnees integrate into society again. Their agents help them with bureaucratic challenges, they help them with finding an appartment... It's really not their profession but a novel method of de-radicalization they are testing there.

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The Vienna people no longer have to worry about her slipping back in and going postal 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #1
This is the value placed on women, abuse and then a violent death. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #2
I find it mind boggling that these girls voluntarily entered this kind of life, and LisaL Nov 2015 #3
shows what propaganda can do. riversedge Nov 2015 #4
Teenagers do stupid things edhopper Nov 2015 #5
Not the safest or sanest period of life. Hortensis Nov 2015 #8
Running off to join a terrorist organization that is known for abusing women, was more than stupid FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #11
ISIS's infamy wasn't so widespread in April 2014 muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #13
Their decision making abilities are underdeveloped, as well as the ability to control impulses AZ Progressive Nov 2015 #18
SOME teenagers ".. limited cognitive abilities. " pangaia Nov 2015 #26
Probably the wrong term exboyfil Nov 2015 #28
Oops. hatrack Nov 2015 #6
RIP girls pintobean Nov 2015 #7
you think ISIS is left wing? Octafish Nov 2015 #12
I wasn't talking about ISIS. pintobean Nov 2015 #27
ISIS is extreme religious right wing AZ Progressive Nov 2015 #20
Daesh ARE extreme right-wing. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #22
you don't know what you're talking about. nt TeamPooka Nov 2015 #25
It's actually fairly normal for ISIS to brutally punish transgressing ISIS-members. DetlefK Nov 2015 #9
Where did you get that info from? oberliner Nov 2015 #16
Can't find the specific articles again, but there's this: DetlefK Nov 2015 #21
Interesting oberliner Nov 2015 #24
This aspect of ISIS needs to be loudly publicized. Jim__ Nov 2015 #10
You'd think the headchopping and heart eating would be a major turnoff n/t 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #14
You'd think so - don't forget that little "burning people alive" thing . . . hatrack Nov 2015 #23
So horrible. polly7 Nov 2015 #15
They were originally Bosnian... Imajika Nov 2015 #17
More likely online discussion and videos. Scootaloo Nov 2015 #29
Sad. cyberswede Nov 2015 #19
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