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Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
25. I have a question about single-state single-payer
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 05:00 PM
Nov 2015

Wouldn't it run into the problem of reverse cherry-picking?

Suppose a large number of healthy young adults living elsewhere select the cheapest possible Bronze plans under ACA or maybe even choose to pay the penalty for being uninsured. Then one of them gets a cancer diagnosis and another is in a bad accident, being discharged from the emergency room in stable condition but needing multiple surgeries. Depending on their employment situation and other factors, they might be able to move to Colorado to get the expensive medical care they now require. (If you're a welder in Florida paying for much of your medical care, taking a pay cut to be a sales clerk in Colorado might leave you with higher net income.)

The result is that the risk pool is distorted. The way it's supposed to work is that all those healthy people pay premiums and that money is used to provide care for the few who need it. If the healthy people are all outside Colorado, then they're not contributing to the fund that has to pay for the new arrival's chemotherapy.

Granted, not everyone facing big medical bills would be able to move. Nevertheless, if a significant number could and would move, the result would be to make single-payer look unfeasible.

I know that Canada moved to nationwide single-payer by starting in one province. I don't know whether this problem arose there or how it might have been addressed.

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I congratulate your decision on supporting single payer and working for it at the state level. think Nov 2015 #1
Florida can't even get ok for healthcare or expanding Medicaid FloridaBlues Nov 2015 #2
Then you're stuck supporting the states who do want to try single-payer. pnwmom Nov 2015 #4
We don't have a chance in hell for Single Payer if Hillary gets elected. bvar22 Nov 2015 #3
Thank you. LuvNewcastle Nov 2015 #5
This is in the General Discussion forum, not the primary forum. pnwmom Nov 2015 #6
+1,000,000 Andy823 Nov 2015 #10
I don't think there is any profit in single payer SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #8
....which means the Risk Pool in Vermont was too small. bvar22 Nov 2015 #13
Yes, the risk pool is too small SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #14
Correct. WE need a national push for Single Payer, Universal Health Care. -none Nov 2015 #29
CO will. joshcryer Nov 2015 #18
+1 leftstreet Nov 2015 #26
I totally agree with you. Andy823 Nov 2015 #7
I support HCAO.org. n/t Ron Green Nov 2015 #9
Here is a link for Washington state Andy823 Nov 2015 #12
I'm for single payer, but I think it will be hard to make it work in Colorado SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #11
Are you working with an Organization in your state? HuckleB Nov 2015 #15
At least a couple of them are friends of mine and they Ron Green Nov 2015 #16
Nice. HuckleB Nov 2015 #17
Yes; I'll be with one of them Saturday in a parade, representing HCAO. Ron Green Nov 2015 #19
Awesome! HuckleB Nov 2015 #20
It's the local Christmas parade. We'll have some walkers and a vehicle with a sound system. Ron Green Nov 2015 #21
KICK! Hekate Nov 2015 #22
My prediction is SP can't work without changes to how providers work Recursion Nov 2015 #23
Sometimes I think that's the only way it's going to happen ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #24
I have a question about single-state single-payer Jim Lane Nov 2015 #25
Some state needs to do it, but getting it on thr ballot doesn't mean there is enough suppprt for it. Hoyt Nov 2015 #27
Info about Colorado's plan: madamesilverspurs Nov 2015 #28
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