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MadHound

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29. It is well know that both Quatrill's Raiders, and Anderson's group raped women

Tue May 29, 2012, 02:48 PM

May 2012

Frank and Jesse belonged to each of those groups respectively, as did the Younger brothers.

There are many stories in Missouri of members of the James Gang raping women.

Sorry that I'm destroying your hero, but hey, that's the chance you take when you choose to idolize a murdering thief who liked to loot and pillage.

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Jesse James and Debt Collectors [View all] Ichingcarpenter May 2012 OP

I'd be real careful labeling this as history. aquart May 2012 #1

Lots of stories like this glamorizing criminals as folk heroes rocktivity May 2012 #8

Well, yeah. Who else would have the power or the bloody-minded arrogance to fight heavy money? aquart May 2012 #56

Where's your sense of myth and of archetype? This tale de-centers the coalition_unwilling May 2012 #15

This just in from the Ministry of Useless Information oldernwiser May 2012 #45

See, you're sort of illustrating my point. It's fun attributing said saying to coalition_unwilling May 2012 #52

And those "hauls" were from banks farmers were depositiing their money with. Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #19

Yeah. It was a NORTHERN town. aquart May 2012 #26

Northfield, MN Noodleboy13 May 2012 #37

The outlaws got ventilated pretty thoroughly hifiguy May 2012 #55

Gives meanings to the sayings "What goes around comes around" RebelOne May 2012 #2

Please stop buying into the romanticized myth of Jesse James MadHound May 2012 #3

it's almost like life is hfojvt May 2012 #4

A clip from the episode: Jesse James guns down the Brady Bunch. Johnny Rico May 2012 #35

My first thought was of Bobby Brady too. TheManInTheMac May 2012 #40

I thougt about that to but laughed at the story anyhow. I think the legends were increased in the jwirr May 2012 #6

The Jesse James movie that was filmed in the late '30s Art_from_Ark May 2012 #12

They were heroes in penny dreadfuls long before that. aquart May 2012 #27

Oh, sure, there were the dime novels Art_from_Ark May 2012 #43

No, my money is on Order #11. aquart May 2012 #49

Interesting Art_from_Ark May 2012 #51

Maybe. The Midway Rebel May 2012 #54

Spot on. proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #7

Whoa there. Frederick Douglass disagrees with you 100% about coalition_unwilling May 2012 #16

I'm sure he does. proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #18

At a certain point, I guess we must fall back on core principles and, at that point, coalition_unwilling May 2012 #21

I'm a native Kansan. proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #22

Brown's actions in Kansas and Missouri are far more problematic, imo, than coalition_unwilling May 2012 #24

Well, you would know if you bothered to read anything about what went on in that area then. aquart May 2012 #11

Since MadHound lives in the state, I'm sure he knows the history proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #23

Umm, I live in Missouri, I know far too well the evil that was the James brothers MadHound May 2012 #25

Rapist? Okay, that's a new charge to me. aquart May 2012 #28

It is well know that both Quatrill's Raiders, and Anderson's group raped women MadHound May 2012 #29

He's not my hero. aquart May 2012 #30

Go do your own research, MadHound May 2012 #31

Well, Quantrill forbade rape. aquart May 2012 #32

Like Google is the be all and end all of proper sources MadHound May 2012 #38

Role models? aquart May 2012 #42

Finally a reference to "ill-gotten gains"! aquart May 2012 #46

Vance Randolph was born TEN YEARS AFTER Jesse James was murdered. aquart May 2012 #48

Vance Randolph the FOLKLORIST??? aquart May 2012 #34

The thing about history, btw... aquart May 2012 #36

About the looting....(pillage and loot are pretty much synonyms btw) aquart May 2012 #44

I live in Missouri too. The Midway Rebel May 2012 #53

That reminds me of the bad guys from The Shadow Riders. JVS May 2012 #14

buzzkill! :) (n/t) oldernwiser May 2012 #47

Forrest Go Vols May 2012 #50

This thread needs a song! Strelnikov_ May 2012 #5

How about "Pretty Boy Floyd The Outlaw" panader0 May 2012 #9

"Some rob you with a six-gun, some with a fountain pen" SharonAnn May 2012 #17

1400 was a tremendous amount of money then. HooptieWagon May 2012 #10

Jesse James was a piker. MI$$ Rmoney took $100 million from workers, some of whom were widows, jtuck004 May 2012 #13

Boy am I way off on this one......I thought you meant the Jesse James married to Sandra Bullock. a kennedy May 2012 #20

A mere cousin, I think. aquart May 2012 #33

Real people who work in debt collections are among the lowest paid and most abused workers... slackmaster May 2012 #39

My guess? GObamaGO May 2012 #41