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lumberjack_jeff

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12. No, 4.5 *times* or 450% as likely.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 05:26 PM
Dec 2015
Academics such as John Lott and Gary Kleck have long claimed that more firearms reduce crime. But is this really the case? Stripped of machismo bluster, this is at heart a testable claim that merely requires sturdy epidemiological analysis. And this was precisely what Prof Charles Branas and his colleagues at the University of Pennsylvania examined in their 2009 paper investigating the link between gun possession and gun assault. They compared 677 cases in which people were injured in a shooting incident with 684 people living in the same area that had not suffered a gun injury. The researchers matched these "controls" for age, race and gender. They found that those with firearms were about 4.5 times more likely to be shot than those who did not carry, utterly belying this oft repeated mantra.


The only reasonable criticism of this finding is "correlation not causation" the argument that people who carry are more likely to live and work in dangerous situations - they may be more vulnerable due to other factors.

Disclosure: I have a couple of guns, but I think that being a gun nut is unhealthy on a number of levels.

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Is pepper spray legal in your former country? KamaAina Dec 2015 #1
Pepper spray does nothing against someone who is much stronger than you, darkangel218 Dec 2015 #2
Carrying a weapon makes you LESS safe, not more. PeaceNikki Dec 2015 #3
4.5 percent more likely to be shot. mmonk Dec 2015 #7
4.5 times. That's 450% more likely PeaceNikki Dec 2015 #8
Yes, my bad. 4.5 times more likely. mmonk Dec 2015 #10
No, 4.5 *times* or 450% as likely. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #12
Yes, see my reply 10. mmonk Dec 2015 #17
What about the chances to survive a home invasion? darkangel218 Dec 2015 #14
There are stats on that, yes. PeaceNikki Dec 2015 #23
I still don't see the stats on home invasions.But OK. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #24
Makes me sick too virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #4
Ty. :( darkangel218 Dec 2015 #11
That belongs in some sort of 'hall of shame'. beevul Dec 2015 #20
I wish I hadn't deleted my post. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #21
I am so, so very sorry for what happened to you. merrily Dec 2015 #5
Precisely Sherman A1 Dec 2015 #9
Ty, Merrily darkangel218 Dec 2015 #13
Anytime at all. merrily Dec 2015 #18
Defense or Defence? B Calm Dec 2015 #6
US/UK difference? n/t SwissTony Dec 2015 #16
When you see "defence" you can tell right away that the person isn't speaking American English justiceischeap Dec 2015 #19
I have a tendency to initially spell it with a 'c,' despite being a native speaker petronius Dec 2015 #22
The good news is for now you still have your right to defend yourself ileus Dec 2015 #15
They will never be able to repeal the 2nd amendment. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #25
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