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In reply to the discussion: "YOU THERE! Why do you hate Muslims?" [View all]sibelian
(7,804 posts)37. Yes. The Guardian's actually an excellent example of exactly what I'm talking about.
They were appalling during the Scottish independence referendum.
Simple things kept getting misunderstood and misinterpreted. Over and over again we got this "why break up the marriage" thing. And to start with it seemed like a useful metaphor... but then as the stories progressed, more and more "marriage" and "divorce" talk came out of them and they were just USELESS, it was as if they really thought it was a real marriage and they were about to go through a real divorce! The language they were using was exactly like that of a soon-to-be-jilted spouse, mean while Scottish people were looking at economics, energy production, democracy and how it works in Europe and all they could come up with was stuff like "decorating your new bedrooms, are you? You haven't moved out yet, you know!" All this wacky pub-talk type stuff, no actual criticism of the idea of independence at all, just muddy, dumb reaction. "It's not fair, you hate us!" Over and over again we got this "braveheart" thing and "the Scots are trying to find their identity." They didn't listen to a WORD. Honestly, it's like the Reader's Digest for liberals. American journalism is FAR better.
Basically it's a bunch of incredibly blinkered hand-wringers in Islington. All kind of studenty and half-finished ideas and moral concepts they've copied off posters in the student union lounge, ya know? And they've got a hero-complex the size of a fucking brontosaurus. They are SO pleased with themselves, and they really have no right to be.
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I was specifically told by another DUer on this board that being anti-Islam is the same as being
Coventina
Nov 2015
#1
One can insert ANY religion in for 'Islam' and adherents of that faith will say the same thing.
cleanhippie
Nov 2015
#7
Plenty of posts just like you ask for, but I'm not doing your legwork for you.
cleanhippie
Nov 2015
#12
Did you share this with the athiests? And swap Muslim with Christian when you do it.
Township75
Nov 2015
#8
I think the place I'm trying to get to between liberals and Islam and/or Muslims
sibelian
Dec 2015
#20
I'm an atheist. I hate religion (Christianity included) but I don't hate religious people.
Arugula Latte
Dec 2015
#42
Yes. I've got past the stage of being polite about these things, being European.
sibelian
Dec 2015
#19
Yes. The Guardian's actually an excellent example of exactly what I'm talking about.
sibelian
Dec 2015
#37
Who do you think you are? Accusing a long time DU'er of not being worthy of posting on
smirkymonkey
Dec 2015
#51
Well, people pray all the time, and that's "talking" to a made-up person-thing-being.
Arugula Latte
Dec 2015
#44
I understand the need to defend a minority group from hate here in the US. I get that entirely.
Yavin4
Dec 2015
#31
You understand that need, but I offer Westboro Baptist Church, which did hundreds of hateful pickets
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2015
#57