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hunter

(40,704 posts)
52. We have similar issues in our community with immigrant farmworkers from various places...
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 03:35 PM
Dec 2015

... where it's considered ordinary for a sixteen year old to be married with one or two children. These young mothers consider themselves to be fully adult, making adult decisions in every way. And in many ways they are, masters of their own domains, taking care of their children and households, making the meals, doing the laundry, changing the diapers, managing the money, etc., while their husbands are working.

It wasn't so long ago in the U.S.A., in some long established communities, where such relationships were ordinary and nobody considered them abusive.

I have quite a few ancestors who had their first child when they were fifteen or sixteen years old.

Our modern society is quite a bit more complicated, however, and kids are expected to have much more education and experience before we consider them competent to make decisions about life altering events such as marriage and children.

Having babies truly does interfere with education and work experience, middle, high school, and beyond.

My wife and I had our first child after we'd graduated from college and both of us had a few years work experience. Our first child was born after my wife had started graduate school. She didn't take any time off from school, but my wife is a very remarkable woman, nursing a child in one arm, reading a heavy textbook full of hard sciences and maths held in her other arm.

Our kids were straight-A students through high school, and then always distraught when they'd get a B or two in college, mostly from professors they didn't grok, or professors who didn't grok them. It's probably because my wife always read to them as children, not just things like Goodnight Moon by Margaret Wise Brown, but also some very hard-core biochemistry, genetics, human anatomy, and statistics.

I tended to stick more to the children's books in my own reading to our children.

6502 and x86 microprocessor code, network topology, and even blood banking (which was my work at the time), isn't easy to read aloud to small children as poetry. x86 code and everything else Intel or Microsoft is especially ugly.

Older and more experienced, I could probably read 6502, and later, ARM code to children as poetry, or blood banking stuff, but x86 stuff is still like being tied up in some torture chamber dungeon and made to speak while chewing on marbles until they shatter, along with your teeth, making you spit blood. Not something to be shared with children.


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So he started raping her when she was 12 or 11. Maybe younger even. alphafemale Dec 2015 #1
I cannot speak for young girls in Syria but I know that Australia, Canada and the UK akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 #2
How does your company go about doing this? (nt) enough Dec 2015 #18
That's a great cause. Should be a priority for all. ErikJ Dec 2015 #74
More fodder for the far right Democat Dec 2015 #3
RW nationalists are gaining popularity all over Europe, and have been, for a few years now. Quantess Dec 2015 #5
its disgusting. to me it is child rape - pure and simple - am i supposed to be opened minded patsimp Dec 2015 #51
Obviously that makes rape acceptable get the red out Dec 2015 #13
A lot of people on DU will react against anything Republicans support Democat Dec 2015 #33
I know and it's disgusting. They are children for god's sake. smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #56
These are sex slaves, not "child brides." That "cute" name is repugnant. merrily Dec 2015 #4
Someone else, a VERY popular charismatic figure, had a child bride a few hundred years ago FrodosPet Dec 2015 #6
Or not d_r Dec 2015 #7
The Ben Affleck Rule FrodosPet Dec 2015 #8
That's gross! That's racist! Dr. Strange Dec 2015 #22
With Christians get the red out Dec 2015 #15
So glad I'm seeing others speak out leftynyc Dec 2015 #62
100% agreed. hifiguy Dec 2015 #65
I disagree Travis_0004 Dec 2015 #9
Complaining about 9 year old brides is NOT Islamaphobic. Nothing in Islam pnwmom Dec 2015 #10
What does Islam say about marriage? oberliner Dec 2015 #11
I don't know. But I do know there are Islamic countries that have banned it pnwmom Dec 2015 #12
But it is acceptable under Islamic Law FrodosPet Dec 2015 #24
So? It is not REQUIRED. Thus, banning it in Norway is NOT Islamaphobic. pnwmom Dec 2015 #26
Thank you! Acceptable does not mean required, therefore outlawing it is perfectly fine and not the smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #87
Those "laws" are ignored every single leftynyc Dec 2015 #66
It still isn't Islamaphobic. n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #78
Of course it isn't leftynyc Dec 2015 #80
Why Yemen Won't Ban Child Marriage and Rape FrodosPet Dec 2015 #16
My sounds doesn't work. But it doesn't matter. Child marriage is not required by Islam pnwmom Dec 2015 #17
The mother leftynyc Dec 2015 #21
What do you mean she obviously gave her permission? How do you know all the pnwmom Dec 2015 #27
Gave permission, stood by leftynyc Dec 2015 #28
In the US, women have many more options and much more power than they do in Yemen. The situations pnwmom Dec 2015 #31
Was it always that way? leftynyc Dec 2015 #35
Whoa there Keyboard Warrior Matariki Dec 2015 #37
And so do women who leftynyc Dec 2015 #41
You are projecting your own circumstances onto women in dire conditions. Matariki Dec 2015 #46
And YOU are assuming the mother leftynyc Dec 2015 #59
You should do some reading about what life is like for women in Yemen Matariki Dec 2015 #64
Well, good luck thinking leftynyc Dec 2015 #69
God, how depressing! That poor child! She was 10 years old! smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #88
They're taught to not "want" anything. Oneironaut Dec 2015 #70
Are you FUCKING SERIOUS get the red out Dec 2015 #14
Ben Affleck said not to criticize Islam FrodosPet Dec 2015 #19
Ben Afflect get the red out Dec 2015 #36
Ben Affleck is an effing moron. smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #89
Pretty sure he's making fun of the gutless PCers that Oneironaut Dec 2015 #73
Hoping you're just making a point leftynyc Dec 2015 #20
I'm tired of using the sarcasm thingie FrodosPet Dec 2015 #23
No - I think it's better leftynyc Dec 2015 #25
I agree. What the man did was rape a child repeatedly. Fla Dem Dec 2015 #38
Everyone involved in that marriage leftynyc Dec 2015 #42
And in a Western nation hifiguy Dec 2015 #72
Uh no we don't.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #29
I find it amusing how so many on here still take your posts as your actual real thoughts, and not PersonNumber503602 Dec 2015 #45
I tend to be a living breathing manifestation of Poe's Law FrodosPet Dec 2015 #48
Yeah, I figured that out awhile ago. PersonNumber503602 Dec 2015 #49
It's DU melman Dec 2015 #53
WTF??? Slavery used to be an acceptable part of American culture Trailrider1951 Dec 2015 #50
That marriage was arranged for political reasons. KamaAina Dec 2015 #57
Is this sarcasm? uppityperson Dec 2015 #81
From me, yes FrodosPet Dec 2015 #84
Thanks. I've gotten in trouble before for making what seemed to me obvious sarcasm uppityperson Dec 2015 #85
Young girls are likely to die in childbirth. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #30
I've been saying it for a long time davidn3600 Dec 2015 #32
Many people here are convinced most cultures are superior to America Democat Dec 2015 #34
I don't give a shit leftynyc Dec 2015 #71
Sad but true. hifiguy Dec 2015 #83
It's a problem in the US also. LanternWaste Dec 2015 #39
Wow, I didn't expect to see this in the US. Fla Dem Dec 2015 #55
There is no right answer here LittleBlue Dec 2015 #40
Breaking up this marriage might be worse than allowing it to continue. bklyncowgirl Dec 2015 #43
I don't see how it can be worse for her now. PersonNumber503602 Dec 2015 #47
It is almost as if these refugees come from a different culture AngryAmish Dec 2015 #44
When in Rome, do as the Romans do hifiguy Dec 2015 #63
I'll go with the culture leftynyc Dec 2015 #77
Damn tootin! nt hifiguy Dec 2015 #82
Excuse me, "Which culture"? Didn't you mean, "RACE"? Quantess Dec 2015 #86
Uh, I would think that would be the culture that doesn't allow smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #90
We have similar issues in our community with immigrant farmworkers from various places... hunter Dec 2015 #52
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #54
WTF? smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #60
"The World" will never do a goddamn thing about anything. FrodosPet Dec 2015 #61
There was a foul on the play hifiguy Dec 2015 #75
it's a legitimate issue and an uncomfortable fact. hifiguy Dec 2015 #58
I just saw this video on Petapixel today belcffub Dec 2015 #67
Just remember, one can't criticise. hifiguy Dec 2015 #76
That is just fucking sickening leftynyc Dec 2015 #79
Not brides - slaves... Oneironaut Dec 2015 #68
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