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Rozlee

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16. We tend to deify our founding fathers themselves.
Wed May 30, 2012, 11:42 AM
May 2012

They were far from perfect. The had slaves, they denied the rights of Native Americans while asserting their lack of full humanity as they did those of slaves, and Benjamin Franklin was a sexual reprobate (in a nice way) once writing a pamplet called, "Advice To A Young Man On The Choice Of A Mistress" and joking about how he was surprised he'd never gotten an STD from all his randy exploits.

In various of the thirteen colonies, Catholic schools were banned, priests could not give mass, they were kept out of public office and their ballot was denied. Thomas Paine wrote a book, "The Age of Reason" that debunked the Bible and Thomas Jefferson wrote "The Jefferson Bible, the Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth", in which he removed all references to Jesus' divinity and once referred to St. Paul as the "first corrupter of the doctrines of Jesus," and to his apostles as a "band of dupes and impostors." As an atheist, I don't consider many of the above all bad, but still, the right-wing demagogues certainly don't want to hear it. And I'm sure if I met the founding fathers, I'd like a great many of them and would love their enlightened view toward secularism. Some, I'm sure, would probably turn me off and remind me of teabaggers.

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Bravo! JHB May 2012 #1
Thanks! rfranklin May 2012 #2
And that is ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2012 #3
Excellent sarge43 May 2012 #4
K&R tk2kewl May 2012 #5
A very well-written rebuttal! rustydog May 2012 #6
Oh, SNAP! colorado_ufo May 2012 #7
Have you ever noticed Bozvotros May 2012 #8
Excellent n/t ceile May 2012 #9
Most of the people I've met who say they want a "Chrisitan" nation raouldukelives May 2012 #10
Nailed it! classof56 May 2012 #15
+ a gazillion + 50 million times a gazillion! chervilant May 2012 #26
If you can use it, use it. Heck, you don't even have to quote me. raouldukelives May 2012 #38
Saving your post and the OP BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #28
I notice that all the time Populist_Prole May 2012 #30
Damned good letter. mlevans May 2012 #11
Barton is apparently going after Jefferson now starroute May 2012 #12
Good job. surrealAmerican May 2012 #13
very nice SemperEadem May 2012 #14
We tend to deify our founding fathers themselves. Rozlee May 2012 #16
The Jefferson Bible is available to read online PADemD May 2012 #21
Thanks. Rozlee May 2012 #32
If you get a chance, elleng May 2012 #24
My daughter says it's on the evil Netflix. Rozlee May 2012 #34
May be, but I watch The West Wing from Netflix, elleng May 2012 #35
K & R Scurrilous May 2012 #17
Wish I had something to add to this. Maybe the Treaty of Tripoli which has 4 'founders' voting 'yea' AtheistCrusader May 2012 #18
Very well written. Post again if it's printed. longship May 2012 #19
good job! madmom May 2012 #20
Boldly stated and well expressed. Kudos to you. K & R. freshwest May 2012 #22
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well said NewJeffCT May 2012 #25
This is the part I love: CrispyQ May 2012 #27
As a Christian I am delighted with this article. Absolutely correct. And to anyone who asks why they jwirr May 2012 #29
Excellent LTTE!!! K&R, n/t Martin Eden May 2012 #31
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Why do you hate America! Tsiyu May 2012 #44
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