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The Midway Rebel

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53. I live in Missouri too.

Wed May 30, 2012, 11:51 AM

May 2012

I also study the Border War and have for years and I have read most all of the academic work in this area and I am familiar with the few primary sources. In fact, I am currently pusuing an MA in this very topic.

Yes, lots of plunder and pillage...but, can you point me to the evidence that Bushwhackers in Missouri made a habit of raping women? That info would make a very interesting conference paper.

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Jesse James and Debt Collectors [View all] Ichingcarpenter May 2012 OP

I'd be real careful labeling this as history. aquart May 2012 #1

Lots of stories like this glamorizing criminals as folk heroes rocktivity May 2012 #8

Well, yeah. Who else would have the power or the bloody-minded arrogance to fight heavy money? aquart May 2012 #56

Where's your sense of myth and of archetype? This tale de-centers the coalition_unwilling May 2012 #15

This just in from the Ministry of Useless Information oldernwiser May 2012 #45

See, you're sort of illustrating my point. It's fun attributing said saying to coalition_unwilling May 2012 #52

And those "hauls" were from banks farmers were depositiing their money with. Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #19

Yeah. It was a NORTHERN town. aquart May 2012 #26

Northfield, MN Noodleboy13 May 2012 #37

The outlaws got ventilated pretty thoroughly hifiguy May 2012 #55

Gives meanings to the sayings "What goes around comes around" RebelOne May 2012 #2

Please stop buying into the romanticized myth of Jesse James MadHound May 2012 #3

it's almost like life is hfojvt May 2012 #4

A clip from the episode: Jesse James guns down the Brady Bunch. Johnny Rico May 2012 #35

My first thought was of Bobby Brady too. TheManInTheMac May 2012 #40

I thougt about that to but laughed at the story anyhow. I think the legends were increased in the jwirr May 2012 #6

The Jesse James movie that was filmed in the late '30s Art_from_Ark May 2012 #12

They were heroes in penny dreadfuls long before that. aquart May 2012 #27

Oh, sure, there were the dime novels Art_from_Ark May 2012 #43

No, my money is on Order #11. aquart May 2012 #49

Interesting Art_from_Ark May 2012 #51

Maybe. The Midway Rebel May 2012 #54

Spot on. proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #7

Whoa there. Frederick Douglass disagrees with you 100% about coalition_unwilling May 2012 #16

I'm sure he does. proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #18

At a certain point, I guess we must fall back on core principles and, at that point, coalition_unwilling May 2012 #21

I'm a native Kansan. proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #22

Brown's actions in Kansas and Missouri are far more problematic, imo, than coalition_unwilling May 2012 #24

Well, you would know if you bothered to read anything about what went on in that area then. aquart May 2012 #11

Since MadHound lives in the state, I'm sure he knows the history proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #23

Umm, I live in Missouri, I know far too well the evil that was the James brothers MadHound May 2012 #25

Rapist? Okay, that's a new charge to me. aquart May 2012 #28

It is well know that both Quatrill's Raiders, and Anderson's group raped women MadHound May 2012 #29

He's not my hero. aquart May 2012 #30

Go do your own research, MadHound May 2012 #31

Well, Quantrill forbade rape. aquart May 2012 #32

Like Google is the be all and end all of proper sources MadHound May 2012 #38

Role models? aquart May 2012 #42

Finally a reference to "ill-gotten gains"! aquart May 2012 #46

Vance Randolph was born TEN YEARS AFTER Jesse James was murdered. aquart May 2012 #48

Vance Randolph the FOLKLORIST??? aquart May 2012 #34

The thing about history, btw... aquart May 2012 #36

About the looting....(pillage and loot are pretty much synonyms btw) aquart May 2012 #44

I live in Missouri too. The Midway Rebel May 2012 #53

That reminds me of the bad guys from The Shadow Riders. JVS May 2012 #14

buzzkill! :) (n/t) oldernwiser May 2012 #47

Forrest Go Vols May 2012 #50

This thread needs a song! Strelnikov_ May 2012 #5

How about "Pretty Boy Floyd The Outlaw" panader0 May 2012 #9

"Some rob you with a six-gun, some with a fountain pen" SharonAnn May 2012 #17

1400 was a tremendous amount of money then. HooptieWagon May 2012 #10

Jesse James was a piker. MI$$ Rmoney took $100 million from workers, some of whom were widows, jtuck004 May 2012 #13

Boy am I way off on this one......I thought you meant the Jesse James married to Sandra Bullock. a kennedy May 2012 #20

A mere cousin, I think. aquart May 2012 #33

Real people who work in debt collections are among the lowest paid and most abused workers... slackmaster May 2012 #39

My guess? GObamaGO May 2012 #41