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86. I thought your name was taken from tribal leader Chief Paul Waterman?

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:43 AM

Dec 2015

Of the Onondaga people a formally organized and politically recognized identity group? Waterman advocated strongly for issues around his own identified community, very specifically.

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Identity Politics. I am not interested in them. [View all] Aerows Dec 2015 OP

. snagglepuss Dec 2015 #1

Yuppers, right here. I'll stand that line with anyone. Shandris Dec 2015 #2

Why yes, yes it does! haikugal Dec 2015 #3

I agree. But there's a paradox here. Smarmie Doofus Dec 2015 #4

I would argue, it's not a paradox ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #6

Bingo loyalsister Dec 2015 #14

Sadly, some ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #22

I am an advocacte for embracing identity politics loyalsister Dec 2015 #29

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #45

I'm having better luck than you might expect loyalsister Dec 2015 #64

In my experience ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #78

Makes sense loyalsister Dec 2015 #112

Mark my words ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #114

Thats an interesting perspective I hadn't considered. Bubzer Dec 2015 #65

The major social justice movements we have seen have been based on identity politics loyalsister Dec 2015 #71

Maybe it's the word "politics" I can't get passed. Maybe if it was Social Identity Justice perhaps Bubzer Dec 2015 #72

It's funny, because to me the GOP tries to erase identity loyalsister Dec 2015 #73

That is an excellent comment. Aerows Dec 2015 #88

Before I respond, let me ask ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #5

I'm glad you type faster--and more directly--than I do nt tishaLA Dec 2015 #9

If you click on her profile LittleBlue Dec 2015 #37

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #50

I think the point the OP is making is that he/she refuses to check your boxes Monk06 Dec 2015 #75

Some don't have the choice to "check the boxes" ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #80

How nice for her. Lots of people would like to skip checking boxes CreekDog Dec 2015 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Dec 2015 #83

Alls I know is that i want a president i can drink a beer with el_bryanto Dec 2015 #7

LOL Aerows Dec 2015 #89

Everyone is a multiplicity, but not liking "identity politics" is in essence tishaLA Dec 2015 #8

Sadly, I have never seen the term ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #13

I usually see it from the RW students on campus who tishaLA Dec 2015 #18

Exactly ... Which is way ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #26

What galls me is that some of those warriors nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #10

It has nothing to do with "like" or not ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #15

And you are in the list of people I intend to have nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #20

And, yet you respond to me ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #27

What the hell kind of reply is this? MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #74

Her minority status pecwae Dec 2015 #95

Yep. romanic Dec 2015 #24

I suspect you catch more crap online message board than IRL ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #34

Well at least you did not have nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #43

They question everything. Identity, spelling, darkangel218 Dec 2015 #39

Yup nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #46

Who are "they"? OilemFirchen Dec 2015 #69

'They' vs 'We' is classic identity politics. You practice it even as you criticize it Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #84

You challenge me Aerows Dec 2015 #90

In the long run Identity Politics and Multiculturalism are not good for the country. earthside Dec 2015 #11

I will have to look into the author's background; but, I will bet ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #16

Yes, Indian-born Englishmen are the EPITOME of dominate. Shandris Dec 2015 #21

I looked. He's actually pretty interesting, but I would also say tishaLA Dec 2015 #23

"tolerance" loyalsister Dec 2015 #19

Malik seems to define multiculturalism in 2 incompatible ways muriel_volestrangler Dec 2015 #116

It's always amusing to see replies like "but so-and-so supports that too, so how can you? " LittleBlue Dec 2015 #12

How is that, at all, related to the OP? eom. 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #17

I don't think labels should limit how we think LittleBlue Dec 2015 #32

Oh ... okay. You have a broader definition of the term ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #40

Wait, what? Shandris Dec 2015 #107

If I understand your question ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #108

Ahh, I see. And here I thought you said he had a different definition for the term. Shandris Dec 2015 #109

Post a link to an instance. This honest person would appreciate it. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #110

No thanks. Shandris Dec 2015 #111

I didn't think so. I can post link after link ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #113

Well then, ain't we both content. Shandris Dec 2015 #115

Well our friend has never reaad a good journal of poli sci nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #117

As DUers are quick to say ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #118

I am interested when someone treats someone else based on one thing like gender, skin color, uppityperson Dec 2015 #25

Some of the people who scream the loudest nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #30

I have had it out with some of those sorts, it reminds me of the crab in a bucket thing uppityperson Dec 2015 #33

Yup nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #38

Nadin, for what it is worth Aerows Dec 2015 #91

Thanks back at atcha nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #103

You are a thoughtful poster. Aerows Dec 2015 #104

Recommended. H2O Man Dec 2015 #28

From moving in several different groups nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #36

I thought your name was taken from tribal leader Chief Paul Waterman? Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #86

Are you just doing this to create drama? Posting here and then complaining about responses on DI? seaglass Dec 2015 #31

The OP posted because she wanted to. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #41

Who are you? n/t seaglass Dec 2015 #42

Who are you? n/t darkangel218 Dec 2015 #44

Are you pulling rank melman Dec 2015 #63

Um it looks like you did it first Aerows Dec 2015 #97

The important part is you found a way to feel superior to everyone else. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #35

Nope, she just stood up for herself. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #47

You might want to edit that to nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #49

Good point. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #52

Indeed, I did. Too few know how to do that anymore Aerows Dec 2015 #87

That would surprise me a great deal. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #93

It encourages people to assert as political truth, that which isn't. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #48

If that theory actually exists, it's a fringe theory tishaLA Dec 2015 #53

I could buy that argument if last years call to arms wasn't "the war on women" n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #54

well, you argued that the debate around abortion was about "eliminating" straight white male voices tishaLA Dec 2015 #56

"war on women" rhetoric is a call to defend them against "not women", right? lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #62

no, because in the rhetoric of the "war on women," some women participate in the wrong side tishaLA Dec 2015 #66

LOL, nope. It is against any and all who want to limit women's reproductive freedom. bettyellen Dec 2015 #77

Well you are on to something there. zeemike Dec 2015 #67

If you didn't care you wouldn't be posting this thread. joshcryer Dec 2015 #51

I'm a registered Democrat because thats how I registered back in 1962 tularetom Dec 2015 #55

Well there goes targeted marketing Kalidurga Dec 2015 #57

Cheer up. Discussionist appears to be moments away ... 11 Bravo Dec 2015 #58

Nicely stated, 11 Bravo. (nt) Paladin Dec 2015 #59

*Snort* Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #68

"identitarianism" is a bit controversial as an analysis, but it becomes very interesting online MisterP Dec 2015 #60

I do not see the harm in what you describe as "Identity politics" pennylane100 Dec 2015 #61

On a personal level, this works Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #70

What do you check on the census form regarding race? guillaumeb Dec 2015 #76

You should be Spider Jerusalem Dec 2015 #79

I think that we (and POC) would not have the vote today, or be able to won land if not for.... bettyellen Dec 2015 #81

You don't really seem to understand the term at all. You do in fact practice identity politics Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #85

Excellent point. Hit the nail on the head. kwassa Dec 2015 #92

I called it as I saw it. Aerows Dec 2015 #99

and who exactly is confining you? kwassa Dec 2015 #101

I'll start by stating nobody here. Aerows Dec 2015 #102

and ..... why would I want to? kwassa Dec 2015 #122

I have no idea. n/t Aerows Dec 2015 #123

+1. (nt) Paladin Dec 2015 #94

+10 Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #106

^^^^^ Thread should end right here ^^^^^ JoePhilly Dec 2015 #121

Call it whatever you want, JEB Dec 2015 #96

So am I. Aerows Dec 2015 #98

Often times those who favor the status quo JEB Dec 2015 #100

You can't wake up, this is not a dream Aerows Dec 2015 #105

That sentiment is particularly common among homogeneuous groups BainsBane Dec 2015 #119

Bernie Sanders said something similar a couple years ago on MSNBC ecstatic Dec 2015 #120