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KamaAina

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78. No, I just want us to throw them under the bus

Reply to Hortensis (Reply #75)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:18 PM

Dec 2015

and stop selling them all those big, shiny war toys.

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Saudi Arabia to behead teenager for attending protest [View all] LittleBlue Dec 2015 OP

Tell me again why we put up with their crap? KamaAina Dec 2015 #1

oh, yes. They're a sovereign nation. Hortensis Dec 2015 #61

Ahem... KamaAina Dec 2015 #73

Ahem, nothing. Silly. There are people who believe America Hortensis Dec 2015 #75

No, I just want us to throw them under the bus KamaAina Dec 2015 #78

You may be happy then that the House of Saud is Hortensis Dec 2015 #81

Thank you for adding perspective. MH1 Dec 2015 #86

Exactly. All those nations had centralized governments, Hortensis Dec 2015 #91

Even deeper than the oil... Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #84

Tell us again, oh vaunted MSM... orwell Dec 2015 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Dec 2015 #5

SOMEone had to pay . . . . HughBeaumont Dec 2015 #7

This is completely unacceptable from a U.S. ally! What is Sec. Kerry and President Obama going to.. ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2015 #3

I really hope they intervene LittleBlue Dec 2015 #6

They're not a US ally Recursion Dec 2015 #31

We "the USA" won't do shit...nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #85

Our noble allies in the war on terror. (n/t) Iggo Dec 2015 #4

No, the US has specifically never characterized them as our "allies" Recursion Dec 2015 #33

They've been our allies since we joined together to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan. Rex Dec 2015 #63

While everyone seems to be only leftynyc Dec 2015 #8

Hillary Clinton supports the death penalty. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2015 #29

So do well over half leftynyc Dec 2015 #36

That may be why they are not among our allies Recursion Dec 2015 #32

I've never seen this list leftynyc Dec 2015 #37

Section 2350a of Title 10 of the US code establishes it Recursion Dec 2015 #39

Wow - what a strange list leftynyc Dec 2015 #40

Oh, its history is a fascinating bit of ad-hockery Recursion Dec 2015 #41

Thank you for posting that link leftynyc Dec 2015 #42

No problem! There are rumors of India being added Recursion Dec 2015 #45

There are way too many countries on that list... Chan790 Dec 2015 #47

True, but Saudi Arabia is not among them Recursion Dec 2015 #56

Noted...and I was just making the observation. Chan790 Dec 2015 #79

+1000 smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #58

Before we throw stones, let's abolish the death penalty in the US. nt killbotfactory Dec 2015 #9

so much for nuance saturnsring Dec 2015 #10

Of course, I forgot, we only execute guilty people. nt killbotfactory Dec 2015 #13

how many were executed for attending protests saturnsring Dec 2015 #15

I'm not defending Saudi Arabia, I just want to stop all state-sanctioned murder. nt killbotfactory Dec 2015 #17

You mean... Chan790 Dec 2015 #49

well he wasnt arrested and executed for attending a protest and it happened 100 years ago saturnsring Dec 2015 #71

No, but you do only execute people convicted of serious crimes after due process. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2015 #20

Which is still unacceptable, but hey, someone on DU implies it is acceptable, so closeupready Dec 2015 #22

I wouldn't go as far as "acceptable", but I would go as far as "not nearly as bad". Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2015 #34

Big difference LittleBlue Dec 2015 #11

Fully agree DFW Dec 2015 #12

Nope. I'll throw stones now. Iggo Dec 2015 #16

That's cool. Please support the abolition of the death penalty in the US. nt killbotfactory Dec 2015 #18

Always have. Always will. (n/t) Iggo Dec 2015 #19

As long as we still have 50 year old men raping 4 year old girls, I'll stick with it snooper2 Dec 2015 #59

I'm sure the Saudi power structure hates this teen just as much as we hate pedophile rapists killbotfactory Dec 2015 #72

I am very much agasint the death penalty and want the US to abolish it kcr Dec 2015 #21

...+1 840high Dec 2015 #27

Here we only execute the mentally il, those too poor to mount a defense, and NightWatcher Dec 2015 #23

I support ending the death penalty here. NOW I'll say a hearty FUCK YOU to Saudi Arabia for cherokeeprogressive Dec 2015 #28

I think I'm quite capable of leftynyc Dec 2015 #38

It's not minimizing, it's pointing out the death penalty is barbaric. killbotfactory Dec 2015 #66

I agree NightWatcher sorefeet Dec 2015 #74

We only give the death penalty to people convicted of murder one. WDIM Dec 2015 #77

No feelgood "Arab Spring" for this teenager. CJCRANE Dec 2015 #14

Our religion is Islam and our constitution is based on the Holy Qu’ran oberliner Dec 2015 #24

The corrupt Saudi regime is an enemy of mankind tabasco Dec 2015 #25

Anyone who supports the death penalty SheilaT Dec 2015 #26

Saudi Arabia: The Daesh that made it. backscatter712 Dec 2015 #30

Saudi Arabia isn't that where the 9/11 terrorists came from? B Calm Dec 2015 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author Recursion Dec 2015 #53

15 of the 19, yes Recursion Dec 2015 #57

So it's terrorism when it's ISIS and business as usual when it's the Saudis. Vinca Dec 2015 #43

We still call these murderers our allies? kentuck Dec 2015 #44

No, we specifically don't; see upthread Recursion Dec 2015 #46

But we sure sell them edhopper Dec 2015 #48

and buy the oil that keeps the House of Saud in power. Chan790 Dec 2015 #50

We sell guns to a whole lot of people Recursion Dec 2015 #52

Where is the free world leaders on this issue. Why don't they reject Saudi Arabia and its execution rladdi Dec 2015 #51

The front runners of both our political parties support the death penalty davidn3600 Dec 2015 #54

No, other differences include the number and quality of death penalty offenses and due process Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #55

Yet somehow we will still find a way to buy our oil from them. Rex Dec 2015 #60

Not really. We produce more oil than Saudi Arabia does Recursion Dec 2015 #62

They are our close allies in the region, been that way since we both Rex Dec 2015 #64

We do describe our relationship as "special", but it is pointedly not that of "allies" Recursion Dec 2015 #65

Over and over past and present POTUSes have called them allies of America for decades. Rex Dec 2015 #67

Name me a single time a President has called Saudi Arabia an "ally" Recursion Dec 2015 #68

I am sorry that you are wrong. We always refer to SA as our ally in the region. Rex Dec 2015 #70

Now re-read those and note the absence of the word "ally" Recursion Dec 2015 #80

The word "partner" is frequently used oberliner Dec 2015 #82

True: we frequently describe them as "partners" (nt) Recursion Dec 2015 #87

What about this one? dumbcat Dec 2015 #83

Good catch, thanks Recursion Dec 2015 #88

I dunno the date dumbcat Dec 2015 #89

That's from August 2015 oberliner Dec 2015 #90

Nonsense. Rex Dec 2015 #93

I found a lot but only had time to put out a few, so the other poster can continue Rex Dec 2015 #92

I'm trashing this thread because it makes me so angry I would get banned Coventina Dec 2015 #69

$audis=Isil=Daesh WDIM Dec 2015 #76

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #94