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KT2000

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179. how do you know

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Wed Dec 23, 2015, 02:55 AM

Dec 2015

what the intentions are? It is usually a misfit who would open carry inside a store and those are the ones most likely to start shooting people. How do you know they are not there to shoot their old girlfriend or ex-wife who works there? If someone confronts him - what is his temperament for dealing with that? Shoot the person?
Mass shootings are becoming normal and this belligerent behavior of open carry is a sign of a decline in social behavior.

My sister who was involved in a mass shooting in a mall told me she would drop everything and leave the store immediately if she saw a person wearing a weapon (other than law enforcement). Also, her first thought always is to protect the children who may be with her.

We are allowing a future of bullying with weapons to become normal and excuses paves the way.

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Rattled and shaken after seeing open carry in a grocery store [View all] cynatnite Dec 2015 OP

I know how you feel gwheezie Dec 2015 #1

Well said! nt Stellar Dec 2015 #227

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #432

Any proof of that? Or did you just make it up? Kingofalldems Dec 2015 #434

Bad guys with guns keep their guns hidden while good guys don't? uppityperson Dec 2015 #436

. libodem Dec 2015 #506

I think it just makes me feel bad. hollowdweller Dec 2015 #2

I'm don't know if not knowing is better. n/t cynatnite Dec 2015 #3

I'm not worried about a potential killer's "feelings" about me, other than if they're homicidal ones WinkyDink Dec 2015 #412

for all the reasons to NOT shop at a Walmart... lame54 Dec 2015 #4

In what way is it weak? cynatnite Dec 2015 #10

I've seen people carry guns in much more reputable businesses... lame54 Dec 2015 #14

in many areas, the evil empire is the only available market within many miles. some people do niyad Dec 2015 #245

That's your response? davidthegnome Dec 2015 #296

I have to say... lame54 Dec 2015 #322

Just getting warmed up. davidthegnome Dec 2015 #335

People who pointedly open carry when there is no good reason to have their own tblue37 Dec 2015 #57

Exactly. It's a show of dominance. "I can kill you right now if I want." enough Dec 2015 #111

I�ll tag on to your point.. busterbrown Dec 2015 #271

Well said. Duppers Dec 2015 #174

Insightful comment. ronnie624 Dec 2015 #175

Be careful--if you make gun:dick comparisons, you'll offend the gun apologists Orrex Dec 2015 #203

The problem is mindem Dec 2015 #321

As well as anyone who values reasoned, adult discourse. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #461

Yes, I'm sure that most gun apologists imagine themselves to be reasonable adults Orrex Dec 2015 #472

"quite effective" Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #480

Deny it if you wish. The gun/penis joke is centuries old, and it isn't leaving any time soon. Orrex Dec 2015 #485

I suppose it depends on just what you want to be effective in doing. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #491

The primary intent is to mock the foolishness of the open-carry mindset Orrex Dec 2015 #493

No, I needn't deal with that at all... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #498

Denial it is, then. Got it. Orrex Dec 2015 #499

Nope, refutation. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #500

My wife open carries when appropriate. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #250

when IS IT appropriate?are you realy unaware of women trying to be macho? ohheckyeah Dec 2015 #402

The only places I can think of is when out hunting or at a shooting range. n/t Humanist_Activist Dec 2015 #427

The metaphor works for all sexes. WinkyDink Dec 2015 #414

I'm of the dickless variety and have a gun as well. Boudica the Lyoness Dec 2015 #448

SO why does she? Scared that some sicko with a gun will open fire in public? Rex Dec 2015 #453

Cougars and bears, mostly. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #509

That's the standard objection, and it's a weak objection Orrex Dec 2015 #467

Yet, it's the only go-to some people can seem to come up with. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #510

If "it's the only go-to," that's probably because... Orrex Dec 2015 #512

Not just gun manufacturers. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #540

For all the reasons to NOT shop at Walmart, that's, additionally, a pretty good one villager Dec 2015 #39

It is just as easy to shop at Target or Macy's or any other less. Maraya1969 Dec 2015 #109

I don't shop there, Kelvin Mace Dec 2015 #329

My right to shop without fear trumps a gun humper's right to be scared of his own shadow Generic Other Dec 2015 #332

Really? Having people with guns at their ready is NOT a good enough reason for you? Wow. WinkyDink Dec 2015 #413

the point is... lame54 Dec 2015 #417

I would react the exact same way. Vinca Dec 2015 #5

"Are artichokes and onions so threatening..." KamaAina Dec 2015 #8

Have you seen the kumatoes? Vinca Dec 2015 #11

. cynatnite Dec 2015 #13

I'm glad I made you laugh. Vinca Dec 2015 #15

I needed it! cynatnite Dec 2015 #17

I've only seen the first one--"Harold and Kumato Go to White Castle.". nt tblue37 Dec 2015 #52

Nothing like rotten eggs nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #24

Somebody has to do it - tomatoes can be killers! csziggy Dec 2015 #96

Subthread win! KamaAina Dec 2015 #143

I almost posted the theme song csziggy Dec 2015 #150

This is my position, too gratuitous Dec 2015 #19

Me, too. I'd leave as fast as possible. n/t Brainstormy Dec 2015 #77

here's why OC is dangerous azureblue Dec 2015 #288

Good point. Vinca Dec 2015 #304

I'm no black belt, but... DissidentVoice Dec 2015 #311

I won't shop in any open carry store here in Florida katmondoo Dec 2015 #6

Same here in SC, katmondoo SCantiGOP Dec 2015 #110

Open carry store in Florida? EL34x4 Dec 2015 #217

There aren't any open carry stores in Florida. whopis01 Dec 2015 #267

Cleanup on Aisle 4! KamaAina Dec 2015 #7

Nothing says Merry Christmas like a Glock 9 mm strapped to the hip. lpbk2713 Dec 2015 #9

I hear you. NorthCarolina Dec 2015 #12

Very true. deathrind Dec 2015 #37

The way I see it is NorthCarolina Dec 2015 #43

Yes deathrind Dec 2015 #167

Personally Old Codger Dec 2015 #116

A few weeks ago in Colorado Springs, a guy was walking around a neighborhood mountain grammy Dec 2015 #155

My point Old Codger Dec 2015 #160

was going to post the same thing Locrian Dec 2015 #242

I agree 110% deathrind Dec 2015 #165

Because if you are a deranged idiot out to kill a lot of people, you make a lot of Squinch Dec 2015 #307

And yet AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #316

This is an odd argument. I never saw evidence of anyone wearing black raincoats Squinch Dec 2015 #319

No, I think those attacks will happen regardless. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #324

My statement is that they are not mutually exclusive. You seem to be arguing against Squinch Dec 2015 #326

I think there's a possibility that a planned shooter might move about unrecognized AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #328

No. Not odd. Any more than "It was a black raincoat. I ignored it." We hadn't seen that, Squinch Dec 2015 #347

And really, when has a planned shooter been recognized before they began shooting? Squinch Dec 2015 #348

Caught one near a school recently. School resource officer shot him. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #362

I have no idea what your point is. You are asking for examples of people who were Squinch Dec 2015 #370

Let me try again. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #394

Still not getting you. Are you saying that open carry does not cause massacres? Because no one has Squinch Dec 2015 #396

No, primarily i'm asking if AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #399

There is a poster up thread who talks about the fact that he Squinch Dec 2015 #400

From last month: "In Colorado Springs, dispatcher brushed off reports of a man with a gun.." Cal Carpenter Dec 2015 #330

Fair enough. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #363

I live in So Az. panader0 Dec 2015 #16

It's not common here... cynatnite Dec 2015 #21

I live in the Flagstaff area and, like you, it's common to see people open carrying, GGJohn Dec 2015 #138

Same here NT Elmergantry Dec 2015 #228

Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT. bananas Dec 2015 #340

Jeezus, some people are so thin skinned. GGJohn Dec 2015 #345

Thats not 'thin skinned'. beevul Dec 2015 #501

I understand what you are saying and I feel for you. icymist Dec 2015 #18

You are right to be upset nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #20

Thanks. cynatnite Dec 2015 #23

I'm surprised our resident glib sociopaths haven't polluted this thread yet with their usual drivel. Electric Monk Dec 2015 #22

Well the poor gun is under the bed nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #27

*This* smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #35

Despite your negative comments towards DU firearm owners, GGJohn Dec 2015 #139

When ya gotta hate-on, any port in a storm... Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #249

I prefer concealed carry. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #252

So true, I hate it. Just causes issues CC is all someone needs. nt Logical Dec 2015 #342

Disagree with me about guns = glib sociopath? hack89 Dec 2015 #205

Speaking as a glib sociopath... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #253

Open carry is for insecure showoffs. Idiotic. CC is all we need. nt Logical Dec 2015 #343

I agree. nt hack89 Dec 2015 #351

We are normAlizing guns in public elehhhhna Dec 2015 #25

That is what worries me, great point. randys1 Dec 2015 #28

I grew up with it. leftyladyfrommo Dec 2015 #411

I guess the plus is at least you knew he had it madville Dec 2015 #26

same here sweetapogee Dec 2015 #206

It is disconcerting... deathrind Dec 2015 #29

I'm sorry that happened to you. yardwork Dec 2015 #30

Would concealed carry be better? aksptth Dec 2015 #31

Concealed toters are just as bad, and the cowboy/hero bit is more likely to get Hoyt Dec 2015 #33

Remember the mom with a loaded gun in her purse in the shopping cart, with her toddler peacebird Dec 2015 #54

It was an accident! aksptth Dec 2015 #84

The parent was irresponsible enough to have a loaded handgun in her purse without the safety on peacebird Dec 2015 #123

A preventable accident. TexasProgresive Dec 2015 #124

Most are. aksptth Dec 2015 #127

So how do we keep dangerous instruments out of the hands of ignoramuses? TexasProgresive Dec 2015 #146

Gun Laws aksptth Dec 2015 #338

There are no "accidents" with guns. Crunchy Frog Dec 2015 #140

A child having access to a loaded gun is no accident mountain grammy Dec 2015 #156

It was not an "accident". mwb970 Dec 2015 #201

Seems like depraved indifference on the part of the gun owner to me. Squinch Dec 2015 #381

Not a rational argument aksptth Dec 2015 #74

I know, George Zimmerman is a responsible gun toter, and protector of society. "Defensive carry" Hoyt Dec 2015 #75

You speak of "rational argument" and float the "ban cars" gibberish in the same message Major Nikon Dec 2015 #86

An absurd argument for effect aksptth Dec 2015 #100

The effect is what's absurd Major Nikon Dec 2015 #113

Don't know about the cliche you speak of.... aksptth Dec 2015 #132

Good Lord. Guns are not "useful" in the same way cars are. Are you kidding? mwb970 Dec 2015 #202

Deadly Force is Never Appropriate? aksptth Dec 2015 #341

Another low-count newbie spouting garbage. nt Ilsa Dec 2015 #102

There's no shortage of non-newbies around here who try to float the same gibberish Major Nikon Dec 2015 #115

Oh please. aksptth Dec 2015 #125

Expect this semi-sanctioned treatment of 2A progressives in DU. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #255

It's the most enthusiastically ignored civil right on DU. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #259

The bat signal seems to have gone out on this thread. I wonder what it sounds like. Squinch Dec 2015 #379

Snobbery against low-count posters is just silly. cwydro Dec 2015 #455

Only a handful of such cases treestar Dec 2015 #199

No. The cowboy/hero statement is not repugnant. Squinch Dec 2015 #308

Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #344

You carry because you want to feel some power that you don't feel unless you do carry. Squinch Dec 2015 #349

And yes. With very few exceptions, this gun mania that has gripped the frightened Squinch Dec 2015 #355

"what is happening is not weekly massacres of "innocent bystanders""? Wtf? Clarify please uppityperson Dec 2015 #364

Got any proof of your claim Hoyt? eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #142

Got any proof I'm wrong, except support from your gun toting buddies. Hoyt Dec 2015 #166

Yep, just as I thought, GGJohn Dec 2015 #169

Hoyt still doesn't know how it works. Straw Man Dec 2015 #189

Some things are obvious to all but those enamored with gunz. But just for you -- Hoyt Dec 2015 #218

Gee, Hoyt, I wasn't talking about guns. Straw Man Dec 2015 #286

Strawman, you are a gunner, so anything you say is usually about gunz in some respect. Hoyt Dec 2015 #287

I had a nice breakfast today. Straw Man Dec 2015 #289

Proof of the claim that people don't need a gun strapped to their body to go to the grocery store? Squinch Dec 2015 #357

Uh, no. GGJohn Dec 2015 #366

Oh. I see. You are standing up for the self-proclaimed hero. Squinch Dec 2015 #371

Uh, no. GGJohn Dec 2015 #372

Uh, sure. Squinch Dec 2015 #373

Believe what you will, GGJohn Dec 2015 #374

Uh, OK. Squinch Dec 2015 #375

Agreed. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #36

She's rattled because she KNOWS that it's an aggressive STATEMENT to openly carry. pnwmom Dec 2015 #48

It sure is, pnwmom Hekate Dec 2015 #151

Because they're a vet, their story is suspicious??? uppityperson Dec 2015 #72

Good point. Agreed. aksptth Dec 2015 #89

Me either, I won't defend it. But I have known vets with unexpected ptsd triggers. uppityperson Dec 2015 #105

Worse Major Nikon Dec 2015 #83

+1000000000 Hoyt Dec 2015 #95

Grocery stores were not a place I considered appropriate for this... cynatnite Dec 2015 #133

Ah yes, the 'responsible' gun owner. progressoid Dec 2015 #208

" If something were to happen and... GoneOffShore Dec 2015 #241

Thankfully that remains more regulated Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #247

Frankly, Warren, I don't feel the least terrorized by them, and I don't OC. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #260

Politely disagree. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #262

A very reasonable staement has crept into this thread. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #251

Open carry says Old Codger Dec 2015 #274

In my state, it's perfectly legal to smoke pot recreationally and medicinally. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #278

My state Old Codger Dec 2015 #282

Our state reports those cards to the Federal Government. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #283

Oregon(where I live) Old Codger Dec 2015 #295

You've encountered the typical American gun fancier, likely a white winger afraid of Hoyt Dec 2015 #32

In most places, open carry is a dumb thing to do. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #34

Plus.....so few gun owners actually are practiced about using a gun. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2015 #65

True, but.... aksptth Dec 2015 #97

the ccw shooting test lancer78 Dec 2015 #184

I've always wondered if people get the difference Bettie Dec 2015 #219

As someone lancer78 Dec 2015 #237

Fear is a useful emotion, even to one feeling it... Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #263

No one Old Codger Dec 2015 #275

Yeah, Zimmerman was well practiced at shooting people and what to tell police in event he shot an Hoyt Dec 2015 #291

You're right this is not the wild west sonofspy777 Dec 2015 #38

I'm so sorry it has come to this level of homegrown terrorism. Hugs to you and your g'kids... Hekate Dec 2015 #40

I would be extremely upset too LiberalEsto Dec 2015 #41

Wal-Mart hires a different company to take those calls. cwydro Dec 2015 #42

Call 9-1-1 mwrguy Dec 2015 #44

From the many recent murders by police if the guy is black doc03 Dec 2015 #62

and what law was he breaking Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #85

It's not a false report mwrguy Dec 2015 #87

if the guy was doing nothing wrong Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #91

It's some states, that's like reporting a man with a cell phone Reter Dec 2015 #148

Great idea! Waste valuable time and limited resources of the police department cleanhippie Dec 2015 #388

As a RKBA gun owner, I'll say that you are entitled to your feelings. aikoaiko Dec 2015 #45

Always wondered what i would do if a gun toter walked into a store I was at. rurallib Dec 2015 #46

I'm sorry. I don't have much comfort to offer you. PatrickforO Dec 2015 #47

I would be just as upset if I had young children with me. MerryBlooms Dec 2015 #49

Good for you. People should speak out when they feel the need. Gregorian Dec 2015 #50

Sorry this happened SDJay Dec 2015 #51

How I interpret open-carry is... mindwalker_i Dec 2015 #53

Another vet here, & you speak for me excellently. J'ever notice how the gunnutters are chickenhawks UTUSN Dec 2015 #55

Leave, don't buy anything, and tell the manager why alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #56

Excellent advice, analysis. I intend to do just that if I ever see japple Dec 2015 #69

Texas is getting open carry as of January 1st. Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2015 #58

It is not just the south I have seen some fools here in Ohio with doc03 Dec 2015 #59

Ohio laws are the problem aksptth Dec 2015 #149

Ohio has become Mississippi in recent years. mwb970 Dec 2015 #204

Do tell. Straw Man Dec 2015 #190

Oh yea I have heard his speech a couple times. Someone asked him if doc03 Dec 2015 #313

Why would someone need to parade an open carry gun around Starbucks other than for attention? Squinch Dec 2015 #376

Because concealed carry is illegal in Ohio without a permit. Straw Man Dec 2015 #383

Again, why would someone need to parade an open carry gun around Starbucks other than for attention? Squinch Dec 2015 #384

Once more, with feeling ... Straw Man Dec 2015 #386

And parade up and down in front of Starbucks with it because he wanted attention. Squinch Dec 2015 #387

The verb "parade" was used ... Straw Man Dec 2015 #389

While parading with his gun in hopes of getting attention. Squinch Dec 2015 #391

Psychoanalyzing random strangers in absentia? A unique talent. Straw Man Dec 2015 #395

And again we are back to this: what reason other than a need for attention would cause someone Squinch Dec 2015 #397

Well, since you are incapable of conceiving of a reason ... Straw Man Dec 2015 #404

It appears you are incapable of conceiving of a reason too, because you refuse to give any. Squinch Dec 2015 #405

Well, at the risk of belaboring the bloody obvious, ... Straw Man Dec 2015 #407

I understand why you feel the need to be so defensive, but let me point out that I have been Squinch Dec 2015 #408

And I have been civil to you. Straw Man Dec 2015 #428

There is indication that he did other than that. The person describing the situation Squinch Dec 2015 #429

And I'm telling you ... Straw Man Dec 2015 #431

So you are changing the discussion then, from whether someone parading his open carry gun Squinch Dec 2015 #439

I want to know what the OP means by "parading." Straw Man Dec 2015 #443

As I said, whether you believe the poster's description is not what we were discussing, and it is Squinch Dec 2015 #444

It is EXACTLY what we were discussing. Straw Man Dec 2015 #451

So, you agree, then. There is no reason why someone would need to parade his Squinch Dec 2015 #463

You really can't do it, can you? Straw Man Dec 2015 #465

No, I asked a question. Not sure why it upset you so. Squinch Dec 2015 #466

Disingenuous much? Straw Man Dec 2015 #469

If you had answered the question sooner, I would not have asked it over and over. Squinch Dec 2015 #470

I answered it immediately. Straw Man Dec 2015 #473

To be honest, I originally asked it rhetorically. Because I can't think of any other reason Squinch Dec 2015 #475

I love a parade. Straw Man Dec 2015 #478

OK. So, you agree that there is no reason for anyone to parade his Squinch Dec 2015 #479

Parade parade parade? Straw Man Dec 2015 #484

Here's the thing ... Straw Man Dec 2015 #460

And PS, the only "attitude" I have "displayed" was to ask, repeatedly, why Squinch Dec 2015 #445

Oh, puh-leeze ... Straw Man Dec 2015 #454

In my conversation with you, which seems difficult for you to stick to, I have asked whether Squinch Dec 2015 #464

More of the same. Straw Man Dec 2015 #468

Require a permit for concealed carry, but none for open carry? Paladin Dec 2015 #398

And some states allow concealed carry with a permit but no open carry whatsoever. Straw Man Dec 2015 #403

careful Skittles Dec 2015 #192

I'm not sure if I grasp your Penis� argument. Could you flesh it out? Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #265

And yet gun sellers are WILDLY successful when they call a gun a "man card." Squinch Dec 2015 #359

Whatever for? He was there to protect you Egnever Dec 2015 #60

He got exactly the reaction that he wanted. Throd Dec 2015 #61

What well-regulated militia to you belong to? GeorgeGist Dec 2015 #161

they're just showing who's in charge--anyone can deputize themselves now MisterP Dec 2015 #63

I grew up out west where open carry has been the law of the land Drahthaardogs Dec 2015 #64

Unfortunately, that open carry prick elicited just the response he wanted from you. Paladin Dec 2015 #66

I totally agree with you. I think the open carry guys do it williesgirl Dec 2015 #67

I am going to guess TNNurse Dec 2015 #68

You make an excellent point. I have no doubt it was a white guy. The situation Squinch Dec 2015 #380

Concealed carry and Open Carry people don't get alone PatrynXX Dec 2015 #70

And yet because the average gun owner now feels he needs to own an arsenal Squinch Dec 2015 #385

I have a concealed carry permit. Texas has joined the ranks of open carry but if I carry it will Waldorf Dec 2015 #71

Seeing someone walking around a grocery store holding a gun makes most people more than AlinPA Dec 2015 #81

same here in OK Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #88

So sad dpatbrown Dec 2015 #73

..... madfloridian Dec 2015 #76

I already live in a state with extensive gun regulations (NY) so... Jerry442 Dec 2015 #78

No-gun sign SandersFTW Dec 2015 #92

Someone who carries into a store with a no-guns policy... Jerry442 Dec 2015 #103

Only if the store posts the policy. Straw Man Dec 2015 #193

There's already a de facto "no guns" policy in NY. Jerry442 Dec 2015 #207

There is no such thing. Straw Man Dec 2015 #284

Here in Missouri, as soon as the ink was dry on the CCW law here, that was passed by the legislature Humanist_Activist Dec 2015 #297

There's a big difference. Straw Man Dec 2015 #367

Missouri has been trending conservative for years, having lost bellweather status a decade ago... Humanist_Activist Dec 2015 #422

cynatnite SandersFTW Dec 2015 #79

Medic during active duty. Flight medic in the Air Guard. n/t cynatnite Dec 2015 #136

Thank you for your service.... Hekate Dec 2015 #153

Say what? DVRacer Dec 2015 #168

Come now, I'd have to look back at my DD214 to remember my two primary NEC's (Navy version of MOS). haele Dec 2015 #314

Hmm DVRacer Dec 2015 #365

Welcome to DU! You seem to be concerned. Please feel free to share more of msanthrope Dec 2015 #409

No problem DVRacer Dec 2015 #441

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: onecaliberal Dec 2015 #80

As i have stated before angrychair Dec 2015 #82

That's a bad policy aksptth Dec 2015 #141

Also, to those people who are too terrified to go unarmed to Walmart: Jerry442 Dec 2015 #90

received a robocall from the OCP (Orange Country Police) NoMoreRepugs Dec 2015 #93

How many open carry folks have shot anyone? 1939 Dec 2015 #94

how do you know KT2000 Dec 2015 #179

Misfits. Straw Man Dec 2015 #194

If it takes this to get people to stop shopping at Walmart, then it's worth it! Township75 Dec 2015 #98

Heh heh. Imagine a future with "red" and "blue" stores. Jerry442 Dec 2015 #107

now that NJCher Dec 2015 #135

You made my evening!! Kilgore Dec 2015 #356

Wanna be paramilitary. Just waiting to be given a little power to "Take back his country". jalan48 Dec 2015 #99

? SandersFTW Dec 2015 #106

Sorry-I guess I wasn't clear. jalan48 Dec 2015 #108

?? SandersFTW Dec 2015 #112

Because I don't like seeing guns carried in a store where families are shopping. jalan48 Dec 2015 #114

... SandersFTW Dec 2015 #117

Do you understand how people might feel seeing guns exhibited in public this way? jalan48 Dec 2015 #121

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Call corporate. Tell them you left without purchasing TalkingDog Dec 2015 #101

Holding your hand and wholeheartedly agreeing. You did the right thing, leave, NEVER go back. joanbarnes Dec 2015 #104

I do not live in an open carry state and I am glad. The jwirr Dec 2015 #118

I think people that openly carry guns stage left Dec 2015 #119

I'd freak out as well malaise Dec 2015 #120

Texas will be open carry in January... Moral Compass Dec 2015 #122

Sorry you had to go through that. christx30 Dec 2015 #126

Maybe SandersFTW Dec 2015 #128

Do you think Bernie Sanders is for open carry? Kingofalldems Dec 2015 #131

He's pandered to the gun nuts before mwrguy Dec 2015 #152

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #358

Nothing imparts goodwill toward your fellow man/woman like a friggin gun on one's hip or tucked Hoyt Dec 2015 #129

Peace and love to you. peace13 Dec 2015 #130

I don't blame you for leaving. PADemD Dec 2015 #134

One very simple gun control law I would like to see passed RichVRichV Dec 2015 #137

I prefer open carry. bigwillq Dec 2015 #144

I know how you feel--when I saw a young man with a gun strapped to his waist in the produce niyad Dec 2015 #145

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Well, aren't you special. Glad you feel protected from the loaves of bread and such. nt Hekate Dec 2015 #154

Because people in Montana are afraid to go to Walmart without a weapon? mountain grammy Dec 2015 #158

Open carry is allowed in my state. kiva Dec 2015 #157

Agree! mountain grammy Dec 2015 #159

This is exactly the response they want. glinda Dec 2015 #162

I had a similiar feeling while traveling through Arizona...Stopped at the Gloria Dec 2015 #163

I guess it's okay zentrum Dec 2015 #164

We should all consider a civilian in public with a gun� santafe52 Dec 2015 #170

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I think he hs a good point a reasonably worded post. Whats with your anger? marble falls Dec 2015 #210

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Explain, its not the same to me. How is he so wrong? marble falls Dec 2015 #215

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Enjoy your stay. (nt) Paladin Dec 2015 #214

Oh I am sure they did and I am sure they will be back for seconds. nt cstanleytech Dec 2015 #232

In places where open carry is legal and at least not totally unheard-of... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #222

If it's holstered and the person isn't threatening anyone, 911 won't even dispatch AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #254

True in some places I've lived, too. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #256

I remember a story of a guy pushing the boundary on that a while back. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #258

And if the cops shoot and kill that person hack89 Dec 2015 #269

It is bullying behavior from the mind of ... Tortmaster Dec 2015 #171

Gosh, I Wonder Why Other Countries Think We're Freakin' Nuts? the_phantom_dennis Dec 2015 #172

Great video. Welcome to DU :) nt Electric Monk Dec 2015 #181

Thank You the_phantom_dennis Dec 2015 #186

Wonder what this gun-carrier or the store manager would say Duppers Dec 2015 #173

first I am sorry you went through this mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #176

I'm all for concealed carry and people's rights to own a gun romanic Dec 2015 #177

Really doesn't seem out of place with the scenario you have set as background Person 2713 Dec 2015 #178

Little pink weewee syndrome. Jack-o-Lantern Dec 2015 #180

Guns. The only acceptable sexist topic on DU. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #261

Umm, does that explain #188? Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #268

Holding your hand ... even from afar. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #182

Solidarity!- nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #183

I'm sorry this happened to you. deafskeptic Dec 2015 #185

For every open there are many concealed. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #187

I saw a little girl in a pinafore dress with daddy and mommy both carrying. Mommy had a pink Glock. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #188

All the better for the little girl to Bettie Dec 2015 #213

My plan, should I ever run into a kook open carrying (a kook concealed carrying if I see it) is to MillennialDem Dec 2015 #191

So you are going to tie up 911 TeddyR Dec 2015 #231

Calling in a suspicious person is not illegal. MillennialDem Dec 2015 #236

Didn't say it was illegal TeddyR Dec 2015 #277

People call in "suspicious behavior" all the time. In POC (I'm white) an unarmed black person can MillennialDem Dec 2015 #447

"Deal with it"? TeddyR Dec 2015 #456

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And if the cops overreact and end up killing the guy? hack89 Dec 2015 #301

Crikey! Boudica the Lyoness Dec 2015 #446

Why would you hang up? 7962 Dec 2015 #542

What happens when 10 open carriers start shooting at each other thinking everybody else is a bad guy UCmeNdc Dec 2015 #195

My most recent encounter with an open carry was at a Meijers store... Contrary1 Dec 2015 #196

Gosh, so how do we fit the little penis meme in this example? Elmergantry Dec 2015 #230

Touche ! Angel Martin Dec 2015 #272

It is really scary. Lunabell Dec 2015 #197

I think you handled it quite well davidpdx Dec 2015 #198

I would never go in that store again. mwb970 Dec 2015 #200

I'd have been concerned too Bettie Dec 2015 #211

A lot of delicate flowers in this world hueymahl Dec 2015 #220

Yup TeddyR Dec 2015 #318

Would your response be different if the man was a police officer? Nateforrest Dec 2015 #221

I lulz'd . enjoy your short stay KG Dec 2015 #225

Walmart doesn't allow pets or drugs in their stores d_legendary1 Dec 2015 #233

No doubt about it: the police in general are over armed and itchy trigger fingered. marble falls Dec 2015 #238

Man DashOneBravo Dec 2015 #406

I am with you Pakid Dec 2015 #223

Sympathy for your bad experience. lark Dec 2015 #224

The further from Walmart tazkcmo Dec 2015 #226

I would feel the exact same way you did in those circumstances, and northoftheborder Dec 2015 #229

I saw one once at the Nashville flea market BeyondGeography Dec 2015 #234

How about replacing guns with a thumbs up? d_legendary1 Dec 2015 #235

A very compelling example of how guns hurt freedom and happiness frizzled Dec 2015 #239

I'm in Arizona now visiting my in laws for the holiday kimbutgar Dec 2015 #240

Good for you denvine Dec 2015 #243

If I may ask, where were you stationed? If not, just tell me to mind my own beeswax :) Bubzer Dec 2015 #244

I've never tried this . . . MrModerate Dec 2015 #246

Maybe that person is going to or coming from a setting that makes more sense. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #257

I judge people with weapons based on . . . MrModerate Dec 2015 #368

Our current Commissioner of U.S. Customs and Border Protection, Gil Kerlikowske lost his AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #393

If open carry is legal, you're just being a jerk. Bonx Dec 2015 #270

There are all sorts of things that are legal to do . . . MrModerate Dec 2015 #369

Extremely overweight? That's a 'not a cop' qualifier? AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #248

I would worry more about thousands of incompetent idiots... roamer65 Dec 2015 #264

my concern with citizen carry - verifying competence Angel Martin Dec 2015 #276

I'm not opposed to requiring that. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #281

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Yet there are those responsible gun owners in this very thread who insist that is necessary. Squinch Dec 2015 #378

How long do you think sulphurdunn Dec 2015 #266

So many racial stereotypes, so little tolerance. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #273

I don't live in an open carry state, thank god. msrizzo Dec 2015 #279

So you are afraid? Indydem Dec 2015 #280

This is the very WHY of carrying guns in public. MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy Dec 2015 #285

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Someone who needs to strap a gun on to go to the store is more likely to need a therapist. Hoyt Dec 2015 #292

No, someone that is shaken and crying from the sight of a common legal object DesMoinesDem Dec 2015 #294

Uhm, to most people, its not that common, how many people do you think own guns in this country... Humanist_Activist Dec 2015 #298

2/3 if you count children and felons maybe. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #302

Its 2/3rds of households, sorry I wasn't clear... Humanist_Activist Dec 2015 #306

Households that REPORT owning a firearm. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #315

Also, there's the reurbanization that occuring, causing real estate prices to skyrocket in certain.. Humanist_Activist Dec 2015 #423

There are 80-100 million gun owners. There are about 319 million people in this Country. If you take Waldorf Dec 2015 #390

About the same percentage who are right wing racists. Truthfully, a gun or two at home for hunting Hoyt Dec 2015 #401

I've been seeing these numbers thrown about, and they seem to be a misrepresentation... Humanist_Activist Dec 2015 #426

I don't know, when you strap on a gun you are afraid of things with such low probability of happenin Hoyt Dec 2015 #299

If someone is so cowardly they can't go into a store DLevine Dec 2015 #303

it was too bad you needed to misrepresent what the OP said MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy Dec 2015 #312

I think those who need to display guns while grocery shopping in Walmart very much should Squinch Dec 2015 #325

This hasn't happened to me yet, dgibby Dec 2015 #293

I refuse to shop at Walmart. We have other options, fortunately. I also have decided that if mnhtnbb Dec 2015 #300

I'll tell you a little story of the only time I've really seen a handgun up close... Humanist_Activist Dec 2015 #305

It is tempting to make a comment about how your very real fear, in some states, would entitle you crim son Dec 2015 #309

Except it wouldn't entitle you to kill TeddyR Dec 2015 #317

I've thought of testing the waters... DissidentVoice Dec 2015 #310

Not a fan of open carry TeddyR Dec 2015 #320

They are there to oppress your thoughts and ideas, they remind us all that they cannot whereisjustice Dec 2015 #323

Employees should be able to sue if they don't want to work around guns Politicalboi Dec 2015 #327

sue on what grounds? TeddyR Dec 2015 #331

For me, it would be that a store should take steps to avoid attracting those who by and large Hoyt Dec 2015 #346

Not sure why you seize on the TeddyR Dec 2015 #457

Nope, I think white wing racists are the main ones arming up in this country and into gunz. Hoyt Dec 2015 #459

Why is your photo collection segregated by race? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #486

Because those photos represent the vast majority of gun fanciers in this country, Hoyt Dec 2015 #496

Those photos represent the gun fanciers that *you choose to show* friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #524

Nope, most gun fanciers have trained with silhouette targets, are racists like Zman, choose their Hoyt Dec 2015 #525

You are free to claim that your opinion and established fact are one and the same-however... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #526

Of course you won't agree, lethal weapons are too important to you. Can't imagine life without gunz. Hoyt Dec 2015 #528

Whether I agree or not will not turn opinion into fact- and btw, I don't own a gun friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #543

In how many states have you resided, which states? Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #535

You are wrong about most belonging to militias. Most are like Zman, police and Hoyt Dec 2015 #537

In all of your posts Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #538

Most of my gun posts describe toters and folks with more than a gun or two Hoyt Dec 2015 #539

You are fooling yourself. Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #541

You realize DashOneBravo Dec 2015 #529

Oh yes he is. Born right here in USA, ex-policeman, and instructor of white gun fanciers. Hoyt Dec 2015 #530

No DashOneBravo Dec 2015 #531

And what race are Arabs? Besides, he definitely caters to teaching white wing gunners to kill. Hoyt Dec 2015 #532

Evidently they are many races. DashOneBravo Dec 2015 #533

Whatever, he's made a good living pandering to white wing gun lovers. Hoyt Dec 2015 #534

Religious, like Muslims with booze. WinkyDink Dec 2015 #416

Maintenance of a hostile workplace. (nt) Paladin Dec 2015 #474

So people who are so afraid they feel they must carry a gun, Chemisse Dec 2015 #333

Please enlighten us. Indydem Dec 2015 #339

Exactly. And they insist they are rational and sensible. When the rest of us Squinch Dec 2015 #350

Eventually open carry folks will encounter good guys with guns IronLionZion Dec 2015 #334

I see a lot TeddyR Dec 2015 #337

Then you are missing the elephant in the room. Squinch Dec 2015 #377

Thanks for calling angryvet Dec 2015 #336

Numerous good post on this thread. Well worth the read. Thanks. nt ladjf Dec 2015 #352

this is nothing new bullimiami Dec 2015 #382

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I've been giving this thread more thought and the real problem is we have no way of knowing Vinca Dec 2015 #410

O.C. defenders: How do you discern intentions? Do you decide before or after you are shot? WinkyDink Dec 2015 #415

On the first day of Christmas, my true love gave to me: Open Carry in a Walmart! WinkyDink Dec 2015 #418

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A lot in that post. Did you do a study or something? Kingofalldems Dec 2015 #420

How did God give you that right? Did he sign the permit? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #421

Don't you remember it being carved into stone and given to Moses? icymist Dec 2015 #433

How do you know they are not out to murder everyone in sight? Vinca Dec 2015 #424

Totally different mindsets involved. Paladin Dec 2015 #425

Everybody call the police? moondust Dec 2015 #430

Or more likely TeddyR Dec 2015 #440

Except that... moondust Dec 2015 #442

The police, being more sensible people, Boudica the Lyoness Dec 2015 #449

Do terrorists and mass murderers moondust Dec 2015 #450

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most of the open carry people are just doing it for show. Most murderers don't pull their liberal_at_heart Dec 2015 #438

Why did it bother you so much? Did you worry about him shooting you and the kids? Rex Dec 2015 #452

Open carry TeddyR Dec 2015 #458

And now Texas is getting ready to join the list. Rex Dec 2015 #471

And thus get ready for a lot more gun accidents of the type that gun sellers fear so much that Squinch Dec 2015 #504

Confrontation and intimidation are the goals of Open Carry Matrosov Dec 2015 #462

That photo is rapidly becoming a classic. Thanks for posting. (nt) Paladin Dec 2015 #476

Here is one from Target Matrosov Dec 2015 #483

If I walked into a restaurant and saw that skinny, little moron with his finger on the trigger - Vinca Dec 2015 #477

While I agree in general... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #481

His finger is not on the trigger. Take a second look. Nt hack89 Dec 2015 #482

Well, that sort of proves my point. Vinca Dec 2015 #487

"And somehow we're supposed to know they're the good guys." Did they shoot anyone? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #488

Now that's just crazy. Vinca Dec 2015 #489

I tend to judge people on their behavior, not their appearance friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #492

Sorry. I do not understand why my right to feel safe must be compromised Vinca Dec 2015 #494

We never will understand it, because it is irrational and quite sad really. Hoyt Dec 2015 #497

I agree open carry is not a good idea hack89 Dec 2015 #495

Correct. *This* is a what someone with their finger on the trigger looks like: friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #490

Maybe they need those Desert Eagles to protect them against food poisoning. Orrex Dec 2015 #519

Yeah but ou know, those sofritos are so delicious, they're worth a little norovirus. Squinch Dec 2015 #523

Maybe he is just a guy who got tired of anti-gun hate and dick jokes... beevul Dec 2015 #502

Thereby becoming a poster boy for the anti-gun hate and dick jokes... Squinch Dec 2015 #503

Anyone remotely pro-gun is a target... beevul Dec 2015 #507

Poor you. No one understands the gunz like you do. Squinch Dec 2015 #513

Poor you. Nobody hates open carry like you do. beevul Dec 2015 #516

I have no problem with that. For the vast majority of people who do so, there is no reason Squinch Dec 2015 #517

Your understanding is not required. beevul Dec 2015 #518

Expressing my opinion is a presumption to control them? My, you ARE sensitive! Squinch Dec 2015 #520

No, forcing others to live by it is. beevul Dec 2015 #521

Poor dear, am I harshing the fun of open-carrying in Walmart for you? Squinch Dec 2015 #522

What part of... beevul Dec 2015 #536

Then he's proven their point that he's an asshole. Vinca Dec 2015 #505

And you've proven your point that you have an opinion. beevul Dec 2015 #508

You're a real card and proof positive you can't talk sense to a gun worshipper. Vinca Dec 2015 #511

Judging by the language... beevul Dec 2015 #514

Amen. Squinch Dec 2015 #515

So why not shop somewhere else next time Travis_0004 Dec 2015 #527