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pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
327. I've been one for over 20 years and I agree -- the only child I've ever seen
Tue Dec 27, 2011, 01:53 AM
Dec 2011

who might have been considered a brat -- if you didn't know his diagnosis -- was a child with ADHD and autism. And those poor parents -- and their son -- were doing their level best.

Adults that spoil kids aggravate me [View all] Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 OP
Also, they need to stay off my grass. Robb Dec 2011 #1
LOL! I'm with you there. These parents think our property belongs to their KIDS! nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #2
Children should be seen, but not heard. Robb Dec 2011 #8
To add: sometimes they behave Robb Dec 2011 #33
People are coming into your house without your permission? Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #462
I taught for 27 years and I wish I could relate to you all the parental bitching roguevalley Dec 2011 #259
You made a very good point. Parents of brats are often narcissistic, Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #267
hmph chervilant Dec 2011 #337
W is an excellent example of a BRAT that grew up without anyone stopping his stupid behavior nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #426
Heh Dorian Gray Dec 2011 #360
Could you tell us how you really feel about spoiled children? MineralMan Dec 2011 #3
LOL! I guess it showed? :) nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #4
This time of year is especially prone MineralMan Dec 2011 #12
:) I don't mind kids, but oh my gosh, there's nothing worse than a brat! Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #15
I'd rather be around a bratty kid than a drunk adult. pnwmom Dec 2011 #181
As someone who has worked at nightclubs and a sunday school class... I'll second that. n/t musicblind Jan 2012 #655
I'm a mom... CoffeeCat Dec 2011 #318
I've been one for over 20 years and I agree -- the only child I've ever seen pnwmom Dec 2011 #327
I have to say I agree with you tavalon Dec 2011 #369
I haven't seen it often, but I've seen it onpatrol98 Dec 2011 #377
Not to mention the highly popular 'spoiled brat epidemic' meme circulating amongst the hard right. AverageJoe90 Dec 2011 #437
IMO the number of rotten kids with rotten parents are greatly exaggerated. Odin2005 Dec 2011 #541
Then you have been most fortunate. JNelson6563 Dec 2011 #591
You correctly identified the parents as the problem. DevonRex Dec 2011 #180
This is true. And kids only learn what they see, hear, are taught from their surroundings, and what Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #202
No, they are not blank slates. HuckleB Dec 2011 #455
LOL Mr Dixon Dec 2011 #365
Do you have kids? trumad Dec 2011 #5
You caught me there. Nope. I chose at 20-ish to NOT have kids. Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #18
I ask because sometimes having kids changes perceptions about how kids act. trumad Dec 2011 #21
True. Anyone can have kids. That's one incredibly scary thing! nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #24
Well, not everyone. Ilsa Dec 2011 #252
If you don't have kids, then you really don't have liberalhistorian Dec 2011 #48
So, I have a child and I agree with her Confusious Dec 2011 #67
Did you read her whole post? She mixes up misbehavior and perfectly normal behavior pnwmom Dec 2011 #105
I can think of a couple of cirumstances that would not be normal Confusious Dec 2011 #130
Of course there are circumstances where children don't belong. pnwmom Dec 2011 #308
Your post makes no sense Confusious Dec 2011 #546
I'm not sure what my point is. but -- emcguffie Dec 2011 #648
That was one part I did not understand. When I was young Maraya1969 Dec 2011 #150
It never bothered me when my friends' children thought our conversation was interesting enough pnwmom Dec 2011 #306
Exactly Dorian Gray Dec 2011 #361
"Parents that allow their kids to sit and listen to adult conversations " is ok with you? Since you uppityperson Dec 2011 #108
Sometimes conversations should only be between adults Confusious Dec 2011 #132
I doubt "on everything" but agree, we do learn from our parent's mistakes uppityperson Dec 2011 #134
I was being hyperbolic Confusious Dec 2011 #136
I agree. There are adults that just don't understand why everyone is avoiding them, and it's Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #204
I think the kid who bothers to answer the phone -- rather than sending the adults pnwmom Dec 2011 #336
No adult should be forced to participate in the upbringing of other kids. HuckleB Dec 2011 #459
Okay, but on Christmas? CreekDog Dec 2011 #240
To little information to determine Confusious Dec 2011 #254
We do know it was Christmas, and what loving parent would leave their child pnwmom Dec 2011 #338
I would have stayed home as a kid Confusious Dec 2011 #545
ah if it wasn't dinner that would change things? CreekDog Dec 2011 #353
And? Confusious Dec 2011 #544
Clearly THIS family with THIS child didn't do that. pnwmom Dec 2011 #562
My father probably would have stayed home Confusious Dec 2011 #575
I'm not. I'm invested in defending parents who do normal things pnwmom Dec 2011 #579
The OP implied that children are spoiled who EVER do that. n/t pnwmom Dec 2011 #316
I agree completely. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #200
I think her OP was pretty clear about the difference between parents in general and rude ones ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2011 #68
"Parents that allow their kids to sit and listen to adult conversations" is about a rude child? uppityperson Dec 2011 #90
I assumed "adult conversations" would be something about someone having a drinking problem.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2011 #158
I assumed "adult conversations" were conversations between adults. In which case I'd let my uppityperson Dec 2011 #160
There's nothing wrong as long as those conversations don't take a dark turn ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2011 #164
Exactly. And if a child insists on remaining with the adults, the adults are held to a child Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #401
The rule at our house was "Keep quiet unless you know something about the subject." eridani Dec 2011 #198
The problem is that many think they know something when they don't know a thing. kwassa Dec 2011 #234
Agreed, (and that would eliminate some on this thread from speaking of children.) 11 Bravo Dec 2011 #470
I'm guessing the kid didn't want to hear her interpretation of the Kama Sutra either CreekDog Dec 2011 #241
Really? Even if the conversation was for adults, like your friend's sex life issues? onion belt Dec 2011 #436
Not gonna argue with a poster who's posting privl has been revoked. Esp not one uppityperson Dec 2011 #469
I don't think you read her checklist carefully. Not all her points are reasonable. pnwmom Dec 2011 #184
Then the feeling is mutual. I don't want to be around a person who thinks children pnwmom Dec 2011 #339
well the fact that the people without kids have to deal with your kids ThomThom Dec 2011 #75
Childless people are more oft than not MattBaggins Dec 2011 #125
Idiot parents. distantearlywarning Dec 2011 #129
they've ruined dinners for me and your logic has a big hole in it uppityperson Dec 2011 #153
Not true. distantearlywarning Dec 2011 #156
"Parents that allow their kids to sit and listen to adult conversations" is noisily, badly behaved uppityperson Dec 2011 #157
You didn't read my post. distantearlywarning Dec 2011 #163
I'd forgotten all about how some parents allowed their kids to ruin an eating-out experience for Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #207
Yes, but no one is posting repeated OPs about rude adults. HuckleB Dec 2011 #549
Not all children misbehave at restaurants, and not all adults do, either. pnwmom Dec 2011 #330
idiot parents irisblue Dec 2011 #149
Haughty childless people, of course. liberalhistorian Dec 2011 #173
I'm your worst nightmare Missy Vixen Dec 2011 #179
If you consider children a "hobby" then it's best that you don't liberalhistorian Dec 2011 #183
Bravo! Well Said, LibHist. (n/t) Paladin Dec 2011 #247
thank you, very good. uppityperson Dec 2011 #256
Nice to know you have no respect for those who care for your child Missy Vixen Dec 2011 #424
Bravo! onpatrol98 Dec 2011 #568
Well said! Spazito Dec 2011 #602
Thanks! Maybe parents of ill-behaved kids are the most angry at those of us who refused to have Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #209
Private hobby? Raising the next generation to be functioning adults is everyone's business eridani Dec 2011 #210
I was a nanny also. distantearlywarning Dec 2011 #232
right, you don't believe in subsidies --you will refuse Medicare, correct? CreekDog Dec 2011 #243
Who do you think will be paying for your Social Security? Our children. pnwmom Dec 2011 #310
Subsidizing an expensive hobby? SomethingFishy Dec 2011 #612
Tax deductions. Missy Vixen Dec 2011 #635
Not at all. I understand childhood is not adulthood, but to inflict bad child behavior on other Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #208
Well said. I would also add that they ("idiot parents") don't usually post mindless Fool Count Dec 2011 #375
wow, that's not consistent with my experience at all fishwax Dec 2011 #255
rude is rude ThomThom Dec 2011 #391
Idiot parents with their bratty mini mes. nt valerief Jan 2012 #654
She's also complaining about kids in their own homes. pnwmom Dec 2011 #185
Is anyone (seriously) asking you to keep your children locked up? Abin Sur Dec 2011 #83
You could choose to pintobean Dec 2011 #89
So if someone's brat is screaming his head off in a restaurant, *I* should leave? Abin Sur Dec 2011 #106
If you can not deal with the realities of society MattBaggins Dec 2011 #128
Since it's more likely that you'll find loud, obnoxious adults interrupting your quiet dinner ... HuckleB Dec 2011 #516
Wow. distantearlywarning Dec 2011 #122
I think you missed the point. pintobean Dec 2011 #148
The realities of society distantearlywarning Dec 2011 #159
I was being facetious. pintobean Dec 2011 #165
Nothing personal about it. distantearlywarning Dec 2011 #167
Ah, I see. distantearlywarning Dec 2011 #169
Well put! Thanks. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #211
And the world doesn't revolve around single people who dislike children. pnwmom Dec 2011 #341
I agree for the most part but I do not expect parents Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #170
I have two children......... Amaril Dec 2011 #216
Strange if/then scenario Sheepshank Dec 2011 #249
Thank You For Your Decision To Not Have Children. It Was Obviously The Correct One. (n/t) Paladin Dec 2011 #135
LOL, liberalhistorian Dec 2011 #174
The 'ol "do you have any kids" shoot down doesn't fly brewens Dec 2011 #301
Thank God. helderheid Dec 2011 #381
Not relevant Eliminator Dec 2011 #54
Very relevant. trumad Dec 2011 #58
You're right. The behavior of other parents' children pnwmom Dec 2011 #103
Actually these kids are not spoiled boston bean Dec 2011 #6
True. Maybe these kids drive these parents so insane that's why they're pawning them off on Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #11
Not to get all pipi_k Dec 2011 #99
You're right. I think parents of bratty kids who spoil them, are doing a 'fuck you' to the world. Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #212
I'm not quite sure how you REALLY feel about these children. Jazzgirl Dec 2011 #7
LOL! I was a bit 'emotive' about this :) nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #9
Although I generally like kids Ineeda Dec 2011 #10
Aaah, I see you've met the spawn of Satan too. Hmm... spawn gets around! Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #13
Very simple jberryhill Dec 2011 #17
And excuse yourself if you're someplace where the parents are bragging. DesertRat Dec 2011 #42
I did, and Mom looked at me with a blank expression Ineeda Dec 2011 #28
Peanut-butter gets out PB? Who knew? tridim Dec 2011 #23
Sorry. Mis-typing. No, PB gets out chewing gum. I think it's the oil or something. Ineeda Dec 2011 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Dec 2011 #35
You need to stop socializing with parents jberryhill Dec 2011 #14
So my choice is to refuse to invite Brat's parents? nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #16
That is correct jberryhill Dec 2011 #20
Yes, that is your choice. You knew liberalhistorian Dec 2011 #50
Not that simple Eliminator Dec 2011 #60
Sorry, but when it comes to friends and holidays, liberalhistorian Dec 2011 #63
"To many people without kids, ALL kids are brats." Or most of those on the hard right. AverageJoe90 Dec 2011 #438
If she is being forced against her will, call the police! jberryhill Dec 2011 #140
As a parent, I wish I could independently recommend this post. Fawke Em Dec 2011 #72
Bigotry toward children is the only kind of bigotry acceptable here. pnwmom Dec 2011 #95
It's the only one actively encouraged on DU MattBaggins Dec 2011 #133
Indeed. HuckleB Dec 2011 #526
I think you worded it well. A lot of this thread comes off as bigotry towards children. musicblind Jan 2012 #656
well said FirstLight Dec 2011 #142
I think you might enjoy this story, liberalhistorian. pnwmom Dec 2011 #322
Oh, my, LOL! liberalhistorian Dec 2011 #414
It was a perfectly nice summer day, so I didn't mind being outside pnwmom Dec 2011 #456
My house was on a corner across the xxqqqzme Dec 2011 #119
I'm a grandpa. That's my job. lpbk2713 Dec 2011 #19
I get it perfectly when grandpas spoil their grandkids. You're right, spoiling is a grandpa's job Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #22
Were you "spoiled"? Did you/your mom engage in any of those behaviours? uppityperson Dec 2011 #88
Sounds a wee bit spoiled to me... onpatrol98 Dec 2011 #570
I don't usually see a lot of kids like you're describing, but I did last Thursday tammywammy Dec 2011 #25
Yes, I don't get why these parents insist that kids be in inappropriate settings... Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #26
On Christmas Day, a child's "appropriate place" is with her parents. If you want the parents, pnwmom Dec 2011 #315
Some people think a funeral is a family event? jberryhill Dec 2011 #66
For a 2 or 3 year old? tammywammy Dec 2011 #69
Yes jberryhill Dec 2011 #76
I won't get into the family relationship details tammywammy Dec 2011 #80
You need to find those knives from the "Omen" jberryhill Dec 2011 #82
It would have been a sign of respect to the deceased and rest of the polly7 Dec 2011 #121
Exactly. It would be incredibly disrespectful to have a child running, playing, screaming while the Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #213
Inconsolable Weeping is not an appropriate adult behavior at funerals either jberryhill Dec 2011 #235
Well, most often being inconsolable at a funeral of someone you're mourning deeply isn't a choice, polly7 Dec 2011 #295
I'd rather a child playing than an adult inconsolably weeping at my funeral thank you very much. uppityperson Dec 2011 #257
Unless mom is a 'casket diver' jberryhill Dec 2011 #282
I don't think I've told you uppityperson Dec 2011 #288
Some people don't have the money for a babysitter. Fawke Em Dec 2011 #73
The child's father takes care of her during the day while the mother works tammywammy Dec 2011 #74
Ultimately, this is what it's all about. theaocp Dec 2011 #386
heehee alphafemale Dec 2011 #27
now lets make a list what we hate about adults.... betcha as long. seabeyond Dec 2011 #30
I agree -- except that this was a family Christmas event, so I think all children should be welcomed pnwmom Dec 2011 #100
the thing. a person who does not have kids may be the ones to blow something very small into a HUGE seabeyond Dec 2011 #143
We used to have a child-hater in our family. Fortunately, she's gone now. pnwmom Dec 2011 #309
+1 laundry_queen Dec 2011 #152
my oldest taught me it is true, the feel of an insult. by 3 or 4 he would look to me when an adult seabeyond Dec 2011 #155
While inflammatory, this topic is actually quite interesting tavalon Dec 2011 #373
Your parents with monetary problems are providing what the kids need to succeed in life tpsbmam Dec 2011 #411
Not to sound arrogant, tavalon Dec 2011 #554
Nothing arrogant about doing a good job, recognizing it and acknowledging it. tpsbmam Dec 2011 #596
But totally spot one tavalon Dec 2011 #605
Bravo jberryhill Dec 2011 #236
+a million, seabeyond Number23 Dec 2011 #244
This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond Dec 2011 #250
+1 onpatrol98 Dec 2011 #571
Some children are very likeable. Quantess Dec 2011 #31
Exactly. Some kids are awesome. Some are something out of a nightmare, because their parents Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #214
Hark all those about! Bask in the light of my brilliant child. alphafemale Dec 2011 #32
So true! nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #215
Isn't that the worst? had the same experience myself. sarcasmo Dec 2011 #224
Whatever happened to children being seen and not heard? Abin Sur Dec 2011 #34
Yeah, let's just keep them all locked away in their liberalhistorian Dec 2011 #52
Please tell me you aren't being sarcastic...I'm *so* in on this! Abin Sur Dec 2011 #55
It's a shame quiet, well behaved respectful adults are so rare. pnwmom Dec 2011 #98
While many adults are poorly behaved (in a restaurant, for instance) Abin Sur Dec 2011 #104
I agree, the brat talking loudly on the cell phone has a *far* worse impact on dining experience uppityperson Dec 2011 #107
Cute. Are you actually arguing that an adult speaking loudly on cell phone is Abin Sur Dec 2011 #110
Yes, it certainly can be. Are you arguing that an adult screaming on a cell phone is uppityperson Dec 2011 #114
I never said the adult in question was screaming, did I? Abin Sur Dec 2011 #118
It's certainly much more common. Telly Savalas Dec 2011 #620
I've honestly never had a "dining experience" ruined by a child. pnwmom Dec 2011 #109
I've never had a bad experience in a restaurant with a drunk adult, Abin Sur Dec 2011 #113
A couple? In how many years of restaurant going? pnwmom Dec 2011 #117
I was thinking of the worst examples. I've certainly encountered more than 2 Abin Sur Dec 2011 #120
Perhaps because they were allowed to be Union Scribe Dec 2011 #358
Or maybe it's just the opposite. As soon as they're out from under their parents' iron thumbs pnwmom Dec 2011 #364
Could be. Union Scribe Dec 2011 #376
Yes! Being a good parent is a difficult balancing act -- pnwmom Dec 2011 #476
The 1960's and liberal ideas about childrearing? jberryhill Dec 2011 #78
You. helderheid Dec 2011 #385
The sarcasm in this post was brilliant. musicblind Jan 2012 #657
Consider your hope rewarded jberryhill Jan 2012 #658
That is part of many authoritarian cultures, but not of the America pnwmom Dec 2011 #97
I don't think well-behaved children are particularly rare fishwax Dec 2011 #260
the thing about it is, it could be a wonderful child having a bad moment and there is NO grace at seabeyond Dec 2011 #299
good point fishwax Dec 2011 #303
Admittedly I don't know the kid in question, but I think you're confusing two issues: LeftishBrit Dec 2011 #36
I agree. Children are enjoyable human beings who need to interact with other human beings. pnwmom Dec 2011 #93
I feel the same way about dogs...nt SidDithers Dec 2011 #37
The more people I meet, the more I like my dog. Abin Sur Dec 2011 #43
"Kids. Yech." This is a form of bigotry that seems to be acceptable here. pnwmom Dec 2011 #111
If this were said here about any other group of people other than children or retread Dec 2011 #127
That's for sure. n/t pnwmom Dec 2011 #314
Yeah...your right....prostitution SHOULD be legal tjwash Dec 2011 #38
That is a funny post:) polly7 Dec 2011 #39
Obviously written by a person who doesn't have kids. stopbush Dec 2011 #40
not to mention overstimulation on a day like christmas for many reasons and the age of the child. nt seabeyond Dec 2011 #41
"Likeable traits for kids". Isn't that a contradiction in terms? Abin Sur Dec 2011 #44
I have two, now grown, and though they were far from perfect, Ineeda Dec 2011 #45
There may be no broad blush complaints, but there are misguided and intolerant complaints. pnwmom Dec 2011 #189
Utterly irrelevant Eliminator Dec 2011 #57
You didn't read the OP carefully. pnwmom Dec 2011 #319
That's a matter of perspective Eliminator Dec 2011 #396
What's wrong with the child answering the phone every time? pnwmom Dec 2011 #468
Yes there are. I have two visiting my home right now. My nieces kids. She is a great parent. Puglover Dec 2011 #584
Amen. And this particular poster has had a bee liberalhistorian Dec 2011 #61
touche Broderick Dec 2011 #144
You win this thread. stevedeshazer Dec 2011 #186
Actually, the OP was quite clear that the rant was about permissive parents, NOT about the children distantearlywarning Dec 2011 #64
One's 'permissive' parent... Skelly Dec 2011 #342
Exactly Irishonly Dec 2011 #518
Yeah she was. I don't think the problem here is with parenting as Puglover Dec 2011 #585
I have two grown children and five grand kids. I do NOT accept madmom Dec 2011 #77
just a reminder: "single" and "childless" are not synonyms eShirl Dec 2011 #79
There is a cure... liberalmuse Dec 2011 #46
As an example of the "cure worse than the disease", that's not bad! Abin Sur Dec 2011 #49
I'll bet Susan Smith's parents advised the same thing Missy Vixen Dec 2011 #434
My parents always let me hang out with the adults abelenkpe Dec 2011 #47
I honestly don't care how parents raise their kids, as long as their children aren't disruptive. Abin Sur Dec 2011 #51
And I'm sure everyone loved having you around...all of the time. kiva Dec 2011 #56
What he said about the OP is no worse than the MattBaggins Dec 2011 #139
Searched and found that you were the only one kiva Dec 2011 #188
Because it's OK for the OP to post an emotional tirade but not for anyone to respond with one? abelenkpe Dec 2011 #448
No, because what she wrote is a tirade about bad parents... kiva Dec 2011 #461
Lol jberryhill Dec 2011 #70
I grew up in a college town and my parents, like others, did a lot of entertaining. pnwmom Dec 2011 #324
"Narcissitic, sociopathic adults" AKA Republicans (nt) Eliminator Dec 2011 #53
HAHA I was thinking that those kids=future Republican voters! alp227 Dec 2011 #277
Was there any reason you couldn't be rude to this rude, inconsiderate parent? Moonwalk Dec 2011 #59
I know. I ought to have said something about the little brat. After reading the posts in here... Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #218
Next time a kid does that to you spit in the kid's face and make kid cry for hours. alp227 Dec 2011 #278
Nope. I simply won't invite my friend (who WANTS to be invited!) Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #279
Also, say something to the child. theaocp Dec 2011 #388
That's part of the problem today. I think some moms (dads sometimes, tho less so), feel their child Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #403
Yes and No Skelly Dec 2011 #350
4 yr old niece sittin at table with all the adults said something snotty to mom seabeyond Dec 2011 #422
My goodness, people who've never had children liberalhistorian Dec 2011 #62
Touche Broderick Dec 2011 #146
Finally, somone putting the blame where it belongs... Bad Parents. Taitertots Dec 2011 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Dec 2011 #195
I just hope they are not the kind of people that take their children to fancy restraunts, etc... Taitertots Dec 2011 #265
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Dec 2011 #272
The problem is that there are parents who do less than nothing to stop their misbehaving children Taitertots Dec 2011 #292
The OP is lumping spoiled children and normal children together, with her complaints pnwmom Dec 2011 #344
I don't agree with your interpretation of the OP Taitertots Dec 2011 #440
Yes, but are these concerns even real? HuckleB Dec 2011 #454
On this we agree, HuckleB. pnwmom Dec 2011 #464
+1 HuckleB Dec 2011 #492
We wouldn't be having this discussion if they didn't Taitertots Dec 2011 #486
We don't know that they're happening, and we certainly don't know that they're happening very often. HuckleB Dec 2011 #491
I've seen it and numerous people here have too Taitertots Dec 2011 #543
I know plenty of parents and other adults who have not seen it. HuckleB Dec 2011 #550
But if you read many of the writer's other posts in this thread, pnwmom Dec 2011 #542
Good point, seaglass. n/t pnwmom Dec 2011 #343
I promise I'll never remain silent again around bratty kids and their charmed parents. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #220
That's why Islamic kids are well behaved jberryhill Dec 2011 #71
I totally sympathize, parenting skills are in short supply ThomThom Dec 2011 #81
ThomThom, the only ones angry are the parents of bratty kids, and it's a tiny handful. The rest Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #225
wow. really? and you know everyone that disagrees. that they have kids? that their kids seabeyond Dec 2011 #297
This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Dec 2011 #84
You were surprised when your husband's niece who lives at home showed up? pnwmom Dec 2011 #345
This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Dec 2011 #352
If I knew one of my adult nieces was living at home, of course I'd invite her for a family dinner. pnwmom Dec 2011 #354
This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Dec 2011 #355
No. But I think it would be polite to invite any adult niece or nephew who's living with the parents pnwmom Dec 2011 #357
You make some good points but others are way over the top. pnwmom Dec 2011 #85
out of many good responses, barbtries Dec 2011 #166
Thank you helderheid Dec 2011 #387
"Parents that allow their kids to sit and listen to adult conversations" WHAT? You don't want kids uppityperson Dec 2011 #86
According to the OP, they shouldn't talk and they shouldn't listen. pnwmom Dec 2011 #87
+100000 uppityperson Dec 2011 #92
I agree Broderick Dec 2011 #154
Support here from Grandma AlwaysQuestion Dec 2011 #91
What Grandma said! nt blaze Dec 2011 #116
Thank you for the voice of reason, grandma! n/t distantearlywarning Dec 2011 #124
Thank you, grandma! You expressed it far better than I ever could! nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #226
AlwaysQuestion, pnwmom Dec 2011 #346
I'm with you on this customerserviceguy Dec 2011 #94
You're right; there are some parents who are just dense when it comes to this stuff. eShirl Dec 2011 #96
A lot of people get depressed during the holidays. pnwmom Dec 2011 #101
Or maybe the kid really was a brat and his/her parents were indulgent and inconsiderate. distantearlywarning Dec 2011 #123
Or maybe you didn't read her whole list of complaints pnwmom Dec 2011 #191
And also, this child-free Christmas lover takes exception to the statement distantearlywarning Dec 2011 #126
You don't have to see children on Christmas, but parents won't be leaving their kids on that day. pnwmom Dec 2011 #192
Actually... distantearlywarning Dec 2011 #223
The problem with the OP is that she was also describing perfectly normal behavior pnwmom Dec 2011 #245
How clever. Missy Vixen Dec 2011 #168
Yesterday was Christmas. How many babysitters would want to work on Christmas? pnwmom Dec 2011 #190
Considering that the OP calls those of us who liberalhistorian Dec 2011 #270
Excellent points! Reminded me that my sis has kids and she doesn't want to put up with other Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #227
Please get over yourself MattBaggins Dec 2011 #246
I've been out of high school for thirty years. Missy Vixen Dec 2011 #416
I think you're talking about those really obnoxious DevonRex Dec 2011 #102
We now have more children in our penal system than at any time in our history, retread Dec 2011 #112
Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #115
that you could suggest a child be left out of Christmas day/dinner apart from its mom is heartless CreekDog Dec 2011 #131
Adults that wants kids hidden away while are spoiled themselves aggravate me uppityperson Dec 2011 #137
i was thinking of the adult that is troublesome, boring, obnoxious, show off, ect.... myself. nt seabeyond Dec 2011 #151
People who want no noise, no interruptions and no messes should stay at home. PassingFair Dec 2011 #138
Controlling adults make me miserable. pa28 Dec 2011 #162
Here's the point Missy Vixen Dec 2011 #171
I agree with you. That was not the OP's "point" however... PassingFair Dec 2011 #176
You are surmising incorrectly. pnwmom Dec 2011 #199
Starting to get a sense that you regret your choices and are trying to justify them Broderick Dec 2011 #141
That's interesting Missy Vixen Dec 2011 #172
Isn't it funny? And doesn't it become clear by the posts who is a parent of a complete brat, and Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #228
Yes. I noticed that too. distantearlywarning Dec 2011 #233
Since it is clear to you, am I a parent of a complete brat or one who doesn't inflict my brat on uppityperson Dec 2011 #258
The only thing that becomes clear is who actually read your whole post pnwmom Dec 2011 #347
That made me laugh out loud. Puglover Dec 2011 #587
well, it's not really too late as she has changed her mind and wants kids now JI7 Dec 2011 #312
replying to bookmark Iggo Dec 2011 #145
Me too. Adsos Letter Dec 2011 #147
I dislike your list, but I will tell you this. Neoma Dec 2011 #161
You're right -- babies and children need interactions with a variety of people. pnwmom Dec 2011 #203
My problem with this thread is the narrow focus. EFerrari Dec 2011 #175
Very true. n/t pnwmom Dec 2011 #193
good point fishwax Dec 2011 #261
Oh yes. Initech Dec 2011 #177
ROFL! This is true. You can tell the mariachi band to go away. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #229
Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #178
Completely uncalled for. MineralMan Dec 2011 #182
I don't know, rather rude to be let stand, true. uppityperson Dec 2011 #289
Amen! And I have a very similar list I will share: LaraMN Dec 2011 #187
+1000. n/t pnwmom Dec 2011 #194
It sounds like the problem is you. LeftyMom Dec 2011 #196
I'm am in utter disbelief frazzled Dec 2011 #197
Thanks for the reality check. n/t pnwmom Dec 2011 #206
Exactly. n/t FourScore Dec 2011 #221
Amen DesertRat Dec 2011 #320
+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2011 #383
VERY well said! nt tpsbmam Dec 2011 #404
IRRITATE, not aggravate! PLEASE! downwardly_mobile Dec 2011 #201
"aggravate" has been used in that sense for about 400 years fishwax Dec 2011 #264
There's a lot of stuff here. Quartermass Dec 2011 #205
If you are invited somewhere where there will be children, then stay home. HappyMe Dec 2011 #217
Nice rant, I am guessing a relatives kid. sarcasmo Dec 2011 #219
Nope. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #231
I think it's rude to have kids. Sky Masterson Dec 2011 #222
You're right. It's incredibly selfish! nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #230
I was joking Sky Masterson Dec 2011 #239
I wasn't. I'm an observer. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #268
That you agreed Dorian Gray Dec 2011 #363
I didn't lie. I told the truth about my choices. Yet you think I have no right to make choices Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #366
That is completely insane. SomethingFishy Dec 2011 #608
This is not the topic of the OP, but yes, having kids is selfish... Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #609
I have two sons.... ThatsMyBarack Dec 2011 #237
Wow, what a brat! Was he correcting your grammar too? CreekDog Dec 2011 #238
You got in just before the wire. Nastiest, Dumbest Post of 2011 Number23 Dec 2011 #242
I love being around children etherealtruth Dec 2011 #248
I attended a family dinner at the home of a control freak once. pnwmom Dec 2011 #251
it's Parents WHO (er, I think) Skittles Dec 2011 #253
Definitely. I certainly think some are. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #263
I, for one, really appreciate posts such as this. Ikonoklast Dec 2011 #262
I spend a fair amount of time around kids, but I've never encountered most of what you mention fishwax Dec 2011 #266
Being a "part-time father", my situation is halfway between full-time parent and childless steve2470 Dec 2011 #269
While I don't like obnoxious adults or children October Dec 2011 #271
It must feel good to know that adults enjoy being with your kids Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #274
That is definitely bragging! onpatrol98 Dec 2011 #574
lol! Sorry. <blush> October Feb 2012 #660
my kids were brought up in a house full of adults.... lost-in-nj Dec 2011 #273
Nothing is perfect on earth. :) Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #275
wow where in my post did I say the world was my childrens nanny??? lost-in-nj Dec 2011 #557
I don't lack respect for people who have kids. I lack respect for Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #558
Funny. I think you simply hate kids. ZombieHorde Dec 2011 #276
Here's the good thing about this - Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #286
Hilarious. nt ZombieHorde Dec 2011 #356
Hilarious is the fact that you haven't read through the responses to the moms that disagree with you Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #368
Anti-puppy rants are funny. ZombieHorde Dec 2011 #418
I imagine many people believe themselves clever enough LanternWaste Dec 2011 #384
You imagine correct. Good job. nt ZombieHorde Dec 2011 #415
Not really a job either... LanternWaste Dec 2011 #449
Wow, so many broad brushes on this thread! tpsbmam Dec 2011 #280
If I wanted to invite a child to my conversations, I would, as would you. Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #281
Where the hell did I suggest you should share your every concern with kids? tpsbmam Dec 2011 #290
No, they're not called babysitters. They're called "people who treat children like the human beings pnwmom Dec 2011 #349
Good for you for engaging with that 14 year old. pnwmom Dec 2011 #313
Thanks. Yeah, the kid broke my heart. tpsbmam Dec 2011 #400
I read a book on this topic pnwmom Dec 2011 #474
Yep, I'm familiar with that book -- that's the principle, backed by sound research tpsbmam Dec 2011 #594
I just reread your first post here and realized we have something else in common. pnwmom Dec 2011 #598
Well, and my profession helps..... tpsbmam Dec 2011 #647
"You're a sly one, Mr. Grinch..." johnaries Dec 2011 #283
Here's the thing, why does it bug you so much that I live my life as I desire? Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #284
Well..I agree with you! murray hill farm Dec 2011 #362
Thank you, mom and grandma! You're right that parents who do this are saying fuck you to others Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #367
Maybe it's because her heart was 3 sizes too small? helderheid Dec 2011 #393
To summarize this thread : People suck. quakerboy Dec 2011 #285
You got it wrong. Read this: I'm not anyone's nanny. Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #287
I wasnt summarizing you, I was summarizing the entire thread. quakerboy Dec 2011 #333
This thread makes me want to adopt Prism Dec 2011 #291
Actually, what's really interesting in this is the reaction from certain parents Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #293
Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #296
i think pretty much everyone of us parents agree, we dont want you around our kids. really seabeyond Dec 2011 #298
My child sitting quietly listening to adults talk=brat. Gotcha.Indeed, that IS my child and and glad uppityperson Dec 2011 #302
I don't think that's a "raw nerve" Prism Dec 2011 #304
Children are naturally narcissistic, but it's something that they usually grow out of. pnwmom Dec 2011 #305
Oh, I don't really think that's fair. polly7 Dec 2011 #307
Clearly. helderheid Dec 2011 #394
In my family, we learned it was our duty to spoil children EFerrari Dec 2011 #311
I disagree a tiny bit Prism Dec 2011 #597
This thread = awesome. flvegan Dec 2011 #294
This thread = nuts frazzled Dec 2011 #323
There's a lot of generalizations on both sides. Quartermass Dec 2011 #300
There sure are. polly7 Dec 2011 #321
When I see people here comparing children to dogs, or calling them "hobbies," pnwmom Dec 2011 #325
Children were compared to dogs here? polly7 Dec 2011 #329
See post 43, for one example. n/t DesertRat Dec 2011 #331
Ok, so the poster who began the thread didn't compare children to dogs at all. polly7 Dec 2011 #340
Oh, I see Missy Vixen Dec 2011 #443
The OP first used the term "narcissistic" to characterize the children. pnwmom Dec 2011 #466
Sounds like you need new friends, don't stand for that s#$t! It is NOT... webDude Dec 2011 #317
If memory serves, this type of rant is not uncommon with you. Frankly, it's tired. FedUpWithIt All Dec 2011 #326
With the move to the new DU, it's always helpful when posters remind us who they are. MissB Dec 2011 #328
Yeah, I'm afraid I'm going to have to unrec this. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2011 #332
I remember your posts well enough to know pnwmom Dec 2011 #334
Not if you allow your kid to visit other homes and be destructive, create a ruckus, interrupt, and Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #399
My christmas consisted of a giant family gathering Muskypundit Dec 2011 #335
Well, the main problem was that mine was a grown-ups gathering... Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #374
You thought a single mom would leave her child at home on CHRISTMAS? DesertRat Dec 2011 #389
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +10000 helderheid Dec 2011 #395
Exactly. I've noticed that many people who don't have kids just don't fucking get it. At ALL. Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #473
May I modestly suggest FloridaJudy Dec 2011 #348
No, actually, my next one will not include the monster's mom Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #371
Let's see if I can summarize here FloridaJudy Dec 2011 #501
I don't beg people to come to my house. I asked some people to a party. Those that came, Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #503
Someday, when you are still childless and collecting your Social Security checks, pnwmom Dec 2011 #351
??? So basically just let kids become wild animals because one day I will need them for something. onion belt Dec 2011 #432
No. You didn't read her whole post, because she also objects pnwmom Dec 2011 #453
Why? Dorian Gray Dec 2011 #359
Why what? You missed the entire point, which is that unloading a BAD kid on others is intolerable Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #370
I don't like it when my daughter Dorian Gray Dec 2011 #446
True. Thanks. By the way, it wasn't just I that was upset. Others at the party came to me to Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #447
I have two daughters that are 7 and 6. I teach them to be polite and try to have good behavior. Jennicut Dec 2011 #372
As this thread demonstrates, children are most frequently ego extensions of their parents. nt Romulox Dec 2011 #378
I think very often they are. I do think some parents are overwhelmed by their own kids, and some Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #392
Ding! Ding! NinetySix Dec 2011 #379
thanks, id never seen that site before Enrique Dec 2011 #472
Or Republicans; greiner3 Dec 2011 #380
"Yesterday I had to spend some time with one of these kids" lumberjack_jeff Dec 2011 #382
"Parents that insist on their kids performing for you" Glassunion Dec 2011 #390
That's quite the pointless cliche, er urban myth. HuckleB Dec 2011 #514
Nah... A comedian I heard does a great bit on it. Glassunion Dec 2011 #555
Where in the hell mrs_p Dec 2011 #397
That wasn't the problem. The problem was that she watched her kid be a complete pest and did Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #398
Was there another room for the kid to play in? mrs_p Dec 2011 #405
Sure, there was another room, but I didn't expect the child to be hidden in there. Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #407
Well, there is no changing people like that mrs_p Dec 2011 #412
Thank you! I do have the solution, and this thread helped me arrive there. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #421
A response and reminder... Juneboarder Dec 2011 #402
I like kids treestar Dec 2011 #406
I agree! It's unrealistic. I browsed through a book not long ago titled, I'm Not Your Friend; I'm Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #408
i have real issues with parents saying, but i am his/her friend seabeyond Dec 2011 #409
Good point. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #410
You can be both, and do just fine. AverageJoe90 Dec 2011 #439
You are so right. polly7 Dec 2011 #441
it is a different position. that is the point. seabeyond Dec 2011 #475
There is a point to this, though. chrisa Dec 2011 #413
Exactly! Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #419
Damn...looks like you (OP) hit a nerve! badgerpup Dec 2011 #417
It definitely hit a nerve with those who 'saw' themselves in my description of the irresponsible Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #420
again. i dont agree. i tried to respond to your posts respectfully and with thought, though i seabeyond Dec 2011 #423
ding! ding! ding! helderheid Dec 2011 #430
Maybe she's not talking about YOU! onion belt Dec 2011 #431
she was talking about the posters on this thread that disagree with her. you agreed with her. seabeyond Dec 2011 #433
Well, I recall you writing the other day that you don't really care if your kid smokes weed onion belt Dec 2011 #435
your interpretation is a caracture of what i posted. seabeyond Dec 2011 #467
"really... really.... is childish" I wonder why she is so mad at the other children? retread Dec 2011 #444
LOL- I agree! onion belt Dec 2011 #425
please point out one post that states children should be "the center of attention 24/7" seabeyond Dec 2011 #427
There's a person who seemed to take offense at the statement about including kids in adult onion belt Dec 2011 #429
the point is, a couple people with no children, no experience with children, no parenting seabeyond Dec 2011 #471
Exactly! It's definitely not healthy even for the child. They grow up not socializing properly Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #428
Oh, god, not the "my fur babies are just the same as your human ones!!!!" crap again Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #460
I feel the same way about members of Congress, who are like our children slackmaster Dec 2011 #442
I agree. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #445
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Dec 2011 #450
OUCH Broderick Dec 2011 #458
Kinda nutty that your annoyance is being called LanternWaste Dec 2011 #451
Yup! Apparently irresponsible parents think it's cool to have their brats annoy adults and kids Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #477
I agree with much of your post... HuckleB Dec 2011 #452
I notice that people without kids seem to think people with kids are endlessly preoccupied with them Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #457
Oh I do. That's why she won't be invited next year. Are you volunteering to invite her to your Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #480
Oh heavens Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #483
Chuckle Broderick Dec 2011 #511
Translation: MY FRIENDS WITH KIDS REFUSE TO CONFORM TO MY DEMANDS ABOUT THEIR LIVES Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #463
Me? I tried to do the woman a favor by inviting her. She apparently could care less about the rest Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #479
You don't understand why a single mother couldn't "leave the kid at home" Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #482
Thank god you were there to judge her! AngryAmish Dec 2011 #465
Me and the entire group of people at the party. Well, the good thing is now she'll Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #478
I'd welcome her. I do not require that my friends, or their children... FedUpWithIt All Dec 2011 #624
And yet you think only she counts, and not me. I did her a favor, but in return, she allowed her Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #627
Here's a perfect example of the mentality displayed in this OP: Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #481
No, she didn't have to leave the child at home. But you're equating apples and oranges. Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #485
but then you went beyond just your situation to a list of rules for parents in parenting ALL seabeyond Dec 2011 #488
did you talk to her about it? Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #497
Nope. I was pretty shocked that she was fine with it and smiling. On the other hand... Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #498
So, you chickened out. Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #500
I didn't. I try to be polite, and didn't want to embarrass her in front of others Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #502
then take her aside Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #504
LOL! Spaulding? More like Little Nosferatu. No, I expect parents to have respect for others Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #506
Okay, well, you're saying that your stuff was destroyed & your party fucked up. Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #509
FYI - in case you don't know - the party is over and the brat is out of my and my guests' lives. :) Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #510
Every time I've had a party that's lasted for days, my place has been messed up Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #522
ROFL! Okay, but now you're talking about an entirely different sort of 'party' Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #525
Wow. FedUpWithIt All Dec 2011 #625
LOL! The ID you chose to use in DU pretty much says that about everything in life, doesn't it? nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #626
You can attempt to deflect with juvenile quips if you like. Your post stands as APPALLING. FedUpWithIt All Dec 2011 #629
I'm dead serious. Anyone with an ID like yours is making a statement: that he's fed up with all, Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #630
Really, very poorly constructed deflection. FedUpWithIt All Dec 2011 #632
I don't care if you're an alien from another planet. Your ID tells what you think and feel. Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #633
Have a nice day Sarah. n/t FedUpWithIt All Dec 2011 #634
No actually your post Puglover Dec 2011 #590
This is most ugly post I have ever read on DU Whoa_Nelly Dec 2011 #484
You are correct. This post brought out lots of irresponsible parents with brats Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #487
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:facepalm: Shining Jack Dec 2011 #592
How, exactly, would you have preferred this kid to be "fascinating"? Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #499
There was nothing appealing about 'the kid' to anyone in attendance. There was a lot repulsive, Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #505
I'm wondering what your idea of a 'fascinating' kid at an adults party would be like Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #507
I didn't expect him to be fascinating, but if he was going to demand the unpleasant attention of Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #508
So I ask again, how old was this kid? Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #512
About 7 or 8. Obnoxious ad nauseam. So now, Doctor Freud... Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #515
a 7 or 8 year old probably isnt gonna know how to entertain adults Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #520
Yeah well... I ought to have said something at some point, such as... Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #527
That probably would have gone well. Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #529
Only after she arrived with her brat and allowed him to run wild. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #531
I'm just really wondering how this all happened as a giant surprise to you. Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #538
i am curious about the age. age matters. and not a mention. 5? 10? 16? lol. nt seabeyond Dec 2011 #513
Good heavens, it's not an either-or thing here Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2011 #489
Thank you. Doesn't it make you wonder why these certain parents are taking it so personally? Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #490
Yeah, you fail. Whoa_Nelly Dec 2011 #495
Interesting. yella_dawg Dec 2011 #521
I had a different name on DU back then, and dropped it and signed up on a new email/new name Whoa_Nelly Dec 2011 #534
I noticed that too. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #565
Well, at least she has good company. distantearlywarning Dec 2011 #535
This thread have over 550 replies and 4170+ views. Shining Jack Dec 2011 #559
Nope. distantearlywarning Dec 2011 #569
Exactly. n/t distantearlywarning Dec 2011 #494
Let's look at the video from Christmas and see if the OP has a leg to stand on AngryAmish Dec 2011 #496
!!!!!!!! helderheid Dec 2011 #519
LMAO Broderick Dec 2011 #524
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Dec 2011 #566
I've been thinking on this lately. yella_dawg Dec 2011 #517
Excellent point for discussion! I wish you'd start a thread on this. However, beware. Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #523
Ah, the old "good old days" theory. HuckleB Dec 2011 #528
Such as? nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #530
If you had kids you would've given up pn this thread CreekDog Dec 2011 #540
If I were in Italy, I'd be sleeping. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #564
Are you saying you don't know much about history? HuckleB Dec 2011 #551
No, I'm saying prove your assertion. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #563
Why? HuckleB Feb 2012 #661
Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #536
In other words, you're choosing to ignore that sociology digs back into daily histories. HuckleB Dec 2011 #548
Wow did this bring out our opinions!! marlakay Dec 2011 #532
Thanks! You brought out a very interesting point, which is that Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #560
So okay you claim TZ Dec 2011 #533
Par for the course Broderick Dec 2011 #537
I'd say about half that list is perfectly innocuous behavior. Odin2005 Dec 2011 #539
+1 HuckleB Dec 2011 #553
Clearly you just don't care for children. Chemisse Dec 2011 #547
+1 HuckleB Dec 2011 #552
Oooh, if your kids are like those, I'm glad you're on the other side of a screen!! Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #561
My kids are grown now but they were pretty well behaved. Chemisse Dec 2011 #618
I think what she describes in the OP is a mother who wants to be KurtNYC Dec 2011 #567
Bitterman ..... party of one your tables ready lost-in-nj Dec 2011 #556
My dad says that he's never seen a happy, spoiled kid. n/t Pryderi Dec 2011 #572
He's right. The behavior of spoiled kids is abnormal behavior. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #573
I know adults that exhibit pretty much every one of those examples. Many were NRaleighLiberal Dec 2011 #576
I really don't feel the aggravation that you do over these things that Liquorice Dec 2011 #577
Then you will like this story. lonestarnot Dec 2011 #578
ROFLMAO! I love that. There should be more people like you around. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #580
:) lonestarnot Dec 2011 #623
Here's something that a fellow parent I know says whenever bitter adults melissaf Dec 2011 #581
You missed one tiny point. Bad behavior in kids is the PARENTS' responsibility Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #583
I think most people understand that point Dorian Gray Dec 2011 #586
Yes Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #588
That post wasn't mine Dorian Gray Dec 2011 #589
You should listen and learn from whomever wrote that statement CreekDog Dec 2011 #595
As a mom, my motto is, if your mom isn't on your side, nobody else will be. JDPriestly Dec 2011 #582
Actually, melissaf Dec 2011 #593
The 5:00 restaurant rule is the key to happiness in the suburbs.......... Burma Jones Dec 2011 #604
Are there no prisons? And the union workhouses, are they still in operation? nt Snake Alchemist Dec 2011 #599
Seems like this is lacking many details. Snake Alchemist Dec 2011 #600
I don't have kids.....have a stepson.... blueamy66 Dec 2011 #601
I love my nieces and nephews. Love taking them to the movies and Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #611
I can relate!!! blueamy66 Dec 2011 #617
God, me TOO!!! Isn't it bliss? I almost feel guilty about it. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #619
Yeah....it's fun to spoil them and then go home and put on my jammies blueamy66 Dec 2011 #622
Well, you'd get along pretty well with my wife and our three kids Burma Jones Dec 2011 #603
Wow, that woman was a total nutjob. What's more, unsolicited touching is battery. Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #606
I don't have much to add to what has already been said. Major Hogwash Dec 2011 #607
LOL! Everywhere you go, people run away. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #610
That's how it was when I was a little kid, too. Major Hogwash Dec 2011 #628
And according to your chosen ID, you're full of hogwash. Interesting! nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #631
These parents see their kids merely as extensions of themselves, begin_within Dec 2011 #613
If that's true, then it's like having a boil on one's neck and showing it off Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #615
They don't see the kid the same way we see them. begin_within Dec 2011 #621
I think I can help you... SomethingFishy Dec 2011 #614
The flame war wasn't begun by me. I explained something factual Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #616
Who composed the OP? taterguy Dec 2011 #636
Oh, so I'm supposed to be a fucking psychic and determine who might be an asshole responding to Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #637
I'm still waiting for an answer to these two questions. Snake Alchemist Dec 2011 #638
People have strong opinions about child-rearing taterguy Dec 2011 #640
And because people might have strong opinions I have to stfu about something Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #641
I would wager some here have stong opinions about adults who get their panties in a twist FedUpWithIt All Dec 2011 #643
And who starts threads like this every few months? And furthermore Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #644
As the host, you have a responsibility of putting your guests at ease Nikia Dec 2011 #639
I'm no nanny. I don't recall offering to play babysitter that evening. Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #642
You shouldn't play the victim here, it was your party Nikia Dec 2011 #645
I can kick an adult guest out of my house in a jiffy or call the police on them Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #646
totally agree with op. polically incorrect Dec 2011 #649
Take it from me, a woman, get rid of this woman. Parents that insist on shoving the kids up Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #650
Gee whiz, you're the popular kid, Sarah! valerief Dec 2011 #651
Oh yeah. I had no idea every parent of a brat would come out to attack my post Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #652
If they spent that much energy disciplining their brats, the kids wouldn't be brats! valerief Jan 2012 #653
Oh ABSOLUTELY! Their little Timmy is NEVER a monster! Of course he isn't LOL! Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2012 #659
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