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In reply to the discussion: Military Moms Breastfeeding in Uniform Stir Controversy [View all]
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,757 posts)149. The women in the picture...
...clearly have all of the buttons on the front of their ABU tops unbuttoned. I am unaware of any orders/permissions related to breastfeeding which may apply. In general, it is no more acceptable to roll up one's shirt than it would be roll down one's pants.
For background I will offer that until more recently it was not acceptable for serviceman to appear at a civilian eating establishment wearing ABU/BDUs. This is one of the origins of the fast food drive-thru lane.
The uniform is to be worn at the times designated and in the manner prescribed by the instruction I mentioned as well as others and as directed by the airman's chain of command. As I said, above, I'm not aware of any special allowances relating to breastfeeding and there may by allowances.
The military is generally inflexible regarding the appearance of its members. Regulations, standards and instructions published as well as the orders of superiors carry the force of article 92 of the UCMJ. Violations thereof can be the subject to a court martial. I, personally, have no problem with breastfeeding. I accept that my wife preferred not to breastfeed in public. I'm fine with women topless at the beach.
For expanded info see: < http://breastfeedingincombatboots.com/2012/05/forget-breastfeeding-publicwhat-about-uniform/ >
Please note in the link that the Air Force, while not endorsing the picture, gave permission for the pictures to be taken. It is always wise to clear up any interpretations of regulations and instructions prior to actions that could be a problem.
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I hate this picture. These women are in uniform. All soldiers are suppose to honor the
southernyankeebelle
May 2012
#3
FWIW, southernyankeebelle believes women should be segregated in the military, not in combat roles,
riderinthestorm
May 2012
#25
Oh I am flattered you remember me. Of course your alittle off but that's ok. Your
southernyankeebelle
May 2012
#37
You then of all people know what the mission of the military always has been. I know it is not
southernyankeebelle
May 2012
#45
Yes I know that. Your talking to a military brat. My dad retired from the Air Force after 22 yrs
southernyankeebelle
May 2012
#64
Well I looked googled breastfeeding in the military. Evidently at this time there is no regulation.
southernyankeebelle
May 2012
#76
Oh feel free to correct me about anything I've mis-remembered. Your positions ARE memorable
riderinthestorm
May 2012
#47
Thank you again. I don't remember your comments. But I am finished for tonite. I think
southernyankeebelle
May 2012
#49
As a woman that has served, I find it more than antiquated...it's offensive. n/t
cynatnite
May 2012
#38
It is nothing personal. Gosh can't you people realize that. Think about the mission of the
southernyankeebelle
May 2012
#39
Apparently it must be for you considering your visceral reaction to soldiers breastfeeding...
cynatnite
May 2012
#44
Ok it is your opinion. Fine. I disagree and I am not changing my mind. So let it go.
southernyankeebelle
May 2012
#48
This is not about feelings...this is about facts which you choose to ignore...
cynatnite
May 2012
#63
You may want to check the military regulations before you say anything. I wonder did they
southernyankeebelle
May 2012
#33
You of all people should know a soldier is on duty 24/7 a day. You are owned by the military
southernyankeebelle
May 2012
#50
You will never get it. Sorry. What do you think the purpose of the military is?
southernyankeebelle
May 2012
#67
Thank you for your service. You still don't get it. So peace be with you and your family.
southernyankeebelle
May 2012
#84
Close your eyes! You will surely be offended by this clip of a uniformed soldier
pnwmom
May 2012
#97
Gosh, I guess your service wasn't on the REAL "getting it" list (whatever "it" is)
riderinthestorm
May 2012
#89
Why don't you show us the military regulation that applies here? Because it doesn't exist.
pnwmom
May 2012
#70
Thank you for your service, cynatnite -- a real sacrifice for any mother or father. n/t
pnwmom
May 2012
#102
Feeding your child in the most natural way possible - how does that dishonor the uniform?
BattyDem
May 2012
#14
The problem here is we are mixing up 2 things. I have no problem with breastfeeding.
southernyankeebelle
May 2012
#43
How would you suggest a female soldier, who you say is NEVER off-duty, and must wear the
morningfog
May 2012
#202
Her suggestion is no women in the military. Or go back to the segregated times
riderinthestorm
May 2012
#224
That's what I was wondering. Or, the converse: how does one "honor" a set of clothes?
DisgustipatedinCA
May 2012
#242
Please delete your post. You sound like a fool? How is breastfeeding sexual?? n-t
Logical
May 2012
#22
Last time I checked this forum is a discussion group. I think I have rights to say what I want.
southernyankeebelle
May 2012
#27
I didn't even think of it that why. I guess that is where your mind is. I don't think
southernyankeebelle
May 2012
#42
That's not where my mind is. You brought up sex. You, yourself, introduced sex.
Luminous Animal
May 2012
#103
You breastfed your child in private, which was your right. But women these days have every right
pnwmom
May 2012
#100
I am use to seeing it. I did it myself with my own child a few years ago. I have
southernyankeebelle
May 2012
#31
I meant get used to seeing while in uniform. That's what I think may be giving some pause.
hlthe2b
May 2012
#32
But we don't have to inflict our personal preferences on others, right? In fact, we shouldn't. n/t
pnwmom
May 2012
#131
Mine was the first post upthread when this was posted... I think I made clear this was
hlthe2b
May 2012
#139
You probably haven't been sent to the jury because no one wants to hide your posts.
msanthrope
May 2012
#66
Ask me if I care what you think? Nope, I know every time we bring up this topic people
southernyankeebelle
May 2012
#82
I am not disputing your right to your opinion...merely suggesting that it is
msanthrope
May 2012
#86
You were too uncomfortable to nurse in public, so you want everyone else to be, too.
pnwmom
May 2012
#85
Where did I say Playgirl? I never said anything like that. get over it.
southernyankeebelle
May 2012
#65
I wasn't thinking of that one. I was thinking of the Advocate. Which by the way is an
southernyankeebelle
May 2012
#78
Nothing. Just like Playgirl has nothing to do with breastfeeding. I was responding to someoneelse
southernyankeebelle
May 2012
#191
So breastfeeding is like a male soldier having a photograph in The Advocate
obamanut2012
May 2012
#175
No, I was responding to someoneelse. The Advocate is a great magazine. I have
southernyankeebelle
May 2012
#190
Possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read. The list of absurd and perverse assumptions
Egalitarian Thug
May 2012
#206
personally Im not interested in seeing other people sucking on body parts, male or female nt
msongs
May 2012
#26
This is about choosing to breastfeed which is eminently healthier for babies
riderinthestorm
May 2012
#30
Look at hte photo. It's a boob shot, plain & simple. Doesn't matter the reason.
Honeycombe8
May 2012
#40
Look at the picture. She's wearing a pushup bra or pushing the babies up against her boobs...
Honeycombe8
May 2012
#253
It's a breastfeeding shot, plain and simple. No big deal except to prudes or perverts. n/t
pnwmom
May 2012
#81
No it is not. People are so hung up on seeing a naked breast that they make it sexual.
Jennicut
May 2012
#141
The Soviets are still trying to steal our precious bodily fluids, you know.
DisgustipatedinCA
May 2012
#244
No worries. T-shirts, as in the photo, don't have zippers, snaps, or buttons. And even
pnwmom
May 2012
#129
So soldiers crying are also a violation? Tears are a body fluid afterall.
riderinthestorm
May 2012
#87
Breastfeeding can be accomplished by simply raising a shirt -- without unfastening anything.
pnwmom
May 2012
#132
Your post #36 distinctly mentioned bodily fluids being banned under the regs.
riderinthestorm
May 2012
#194
No, it's about feeding a baby. Which is even more important than blowing your nose.
pnwmom
May 2012
#231
Oh, mamas are quite capable of being nurturing and violent in defense of loved ones
aikoaiko
May 2012
#143
Except that America's wars usually destroy the lives of innocents and accomplish little more.
redgreenandblue
May 2012
#160
I think this picture is the least of our worries concerning our war mongering.
aikoaiko
May 2012
#163
True. I personally think women should breast feed whenever or whereever they want.
redgreenandblue
May 2012
#168
Do you feel the same way when you see a male soldier sweeping a child into his arms?
pnwmom
May 2012
#95
So you don't think women should be allowed to breastfeed wherever they choose?
Nye Bevan
May 2012
#104
I think that discretion is the order of day when it comes to breast feeding. The soldier
avebury
May 2012
#142
Taken seriously.Writing and speaking skills are essential if you want to be taken seriously.
Egalitarian Thug
May 2012
#212
Non-issue-and with enough exposure, no pun intended, it will be broadly regarded as such one day .
FedUpWithIt All
May 2012
#116
You do realize these women aren't bringing their children to work right?
riderinthestorm
May 2012
#197
All of your questions are moot since the military has already figured out those answers
riderinthestorm
May 2012
#230
And the same women would call an airstrike on a house full of children
redgreenandblue
May 2012
#127
Beautiful! In 1973 pregnant women were discharged or were sent for an abortion.
kickysnana
May 2012
#148
And we wonder how this nation got into the dire straights in which we find ourselves...
Egalitarian Thug
May 2012
#214
While true, I think many of those are one-offs. The VAST majority of DUers see it like you
stevenleser
Jun 2012
#271
I guess if it's against the uniform code then detractors have a point
4th law of robotics
May 2012
#155
You all really want to get your knickers in a twist, google "Male lactation"
FedUpWithIt All
May 2012
#208
What I said obviously only applies to those who are disparaging public breastfeeding.
pnwmom
Jun 2012
#259
Sorry, but that's against uniform regulations! And besides, it's suffocating to eat under a blanket.
pnwmom
Jun 2012
#263