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174. How do you propose that the military person handle this

Thu May 31, 2012, 11:38 AM

May 2012

normal function if she is scheduled to participate in normal military maneuvers / exercises? Is she supposed to take off to find a place to pump or feed a child? Breast feeding might be a totally normal process but a woman can hardly expect to have the military accommodate this need at all times. You cannot always plan on wars being pre-scheduled and the military has to be ready to deploy at any time. If shit happens and the military needs to react you can hardly have a soldier/sailor/airman/whatever say "Excuse me but it is time to feed my child." It is just not realistic.

Just so you think that I am only siding with men, I also don't believe that a single father has any business being in the military if he does not have a guaranteed fallback for childcare if he has to deploy. I also believe that, if you have a married military couple, once children come along one of the parents should probably leave the military and I don't care which one it is. Fathers can be just as good as mothers at childcare. Parents are the ones 100% responsible for raising their children not the rest of us.

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Military Moms Breastfeeding in Uniform Stir Controversy [View all] cynatnite May 2012 OP

Stupid controversy... hlthe2b May 2012 #1

Beautiful women! I love this! CTyankee May 2012 #2

I hate this picture. These women are in uniform. All soldiers are suppose to honor the southernyankeebelle May 2012 #3

Breastfeeding is not about sex... cynatnite May 2012 #4

FWIW, southernyankeebelle believes women should be segregated in the military, not in combat roles, riderinthestorm May 2012 #25

Oh I am flattered you remember me. Of course your alittle off but that's ok. Your southernyankeebelle May 2012 #37

I am a vet and I find your thinking antiquated and offensive... cynatnite May 2012 #41

You then of all people know what the mission of the military always has been. I know it is not southernyankeebelle May 2012 #45

I've got experience that trumps your opinion... cynatnite May 2012 #52

Yes I know that. Your talking to a military brat. My dad retired from the Air Force after 22 yrs southernyankeebelle May 2012 #64

Never once did I question you or your patriotism...NEVER... cynatnite May 2012 #73

Well I looked googled breastfeeding in the military. Evidently at this time there is no regulation. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #76

Oh feel free to correct me about anything I've mis-remembered. Your positions ARE memorable riderinthestorm May 2012 #47

Thank you again. I don't remember your comments. But I am finished for tonite. I think southernyankeebelle May 2012 #49

You memory is correct obamanut2012 May 2012 #159

<----- vet here, even got shot at nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #217

As a woman that has served, I find it more than antiquated...it's offensive. n/t cynatnite May 2012 #38

I posted the same thing down thread obamanut2012 May 2012 #158

Oh hell, let's go all the way sarge43 Jun 2012 #270

It is nothing personal. Gosh can't you people realize that. Think about the mission of the southernyankeebelle May 2012 #39

Apparently it must be for you considering your visceral reaction to soldiers breastfeeding... cynatnite May 2012 #44

Ok it is your opinion. Fine. I disagree and I am not changing my mind. So let it go. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #48

This is not about feelings...this is about facts which you choose to ignore... cynatnite May 2012 #63

"Bring the damn draft back." What does that have to do with anything? pnwmom May 2012 #71

I'd love to bring the draft back. aquart May 2012 #125

This poster does believe that obamanut2012 May 2012 #162

The draft can go to hell obamanut2012 May 2012 #161

It isn't dishonoring the uniform nor does it have anything to do with sex. jp11 May 2012 #6

You may want to check the military regulations before you say anything. I wonder did they southernyankeebelle May 2012 #33

If they're off duty, they don't need permission. n/t cynatnite May 2012 #46

You of all people should know a soldier is on duty 24/7 a day. You are owned by the military southernyankeebelle May 2012 #50

I thought you were finished for tonight. MissB May 2012 #54

Of course, but off duty is still off duty... cynatnite May 2012 #56

You will never get it. Sorry. What do you think the purpose of the military is? southernyankeebelle May 2012 #67

I lived it, dear... cynatnite May 2012 #72

Thank you for your service. You still don't get it. So peace be with you and your family. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #84

Close your eyes! You will surely be offended by this clip of a uniformed soldier pnwmom May 2012 #97

Or this!!! obamanut2012 May 2012 #167

OMG! n/t pnwmom May 2012 #232

Hold it, you're telling somebody nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #219

(self-delete) pnwmom May 2012 #233

Gosh, I guess your service wasn't on the REAL "getting it" list (whatever "it" is) riderinthestorm May 2012 #89

I think I'm glad I did. n/t cynatnite May 2012 #96

A flight medic? aquart May 2012 #126

That's been a little while ago... cynatnite May 2012 #154

To defend and protect our citizens. Even the teeny tiny hungry ones. aquart May 2012 #124

Not true -- you have off duty hours obamanut2012 May 2012 #165

Why don't you show us the military regulation that applies here? Because it doesn't exist. pnwmom May 2012 #70

There is no military regulation pertaining to breastfeeding in uniform... cynatnite May 2012 #77

Thank you for your service, cynatnite -- a real sacrifice for any mother or father. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #102

There isn't obamanut2012 May 2012 #170

I know for a fact they aren't breaking regs obamanut2012 May 2012 #164

What???? They don't have to wear heels anymore? pnwmom May 2012 #234

I AM APPALLED!!!!!! obamanut2012 May 2012 #241

LOL. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #243

But, but, running in heels is so sexy nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #251

I really don't have anything nice to say to that post. Occulus May 2012 #7

Wow. Just wow. Starry Messenger May 2012 #9

Errr.. they are in their work clothes. Texasgal May 2012 #10

WTF? Dorian Gray May 2012 #13

Feeding your child in the most natural way possible - how does that dishonor the uniform? BattyDem May 2012 #14

The problem here is we are mixing up 2 things. I have no problem with breastfeeding. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #43

I didn't mix up anything. BattyDem May 2012 #119

I just talked to a Lt. Colonel who is a protocol officer obamanut2012 May 2012 #173

How would you suggest a female soldier, who you say is NEVER off-duty, and must wear the morningfog May 2012 #202

Her suggestion is no women in the military. Or go back to the segregated times riderinthestorm May 2012 #224

Wow. morningfog May 2012 #16

how does feeding your infant "dishonor" your stupid outfit? elehhhhna May 2012 #18

That's what I was wondering. Or, the converse: how does one "honor" a set of clothes? DisgustipatedinCA May 2012 #242

You think breast feeding is sexy, do ya? Iggo May 2012 #20

Please delete your post. You sound like a fool? How is breastfeeding sexual?? n-t Logical May 2012 #22

Last time I checked this forum is a discussion group. I think I have rights to say what I want. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #27

So, why did you make the analogy between women breast feeding and Luminous Animal May 2012 #34

I didn't even think of it that why. I guess that is where your mind is. I don't think southernyankeebelle May 2012 #42

That's not where my mind is. You brought up sex. You, yourself, introduced sex. Luminous Animal May 2012 #103

You sound like part of the problem. n-t Logical May 2012 #59

You're the one who compared it to a male soldier in a sex magazine.... cynatnite May 2012 #60

You breastfed your child in private, which was your right. But women these days have every right pnwmom May 2012 #100

* SunsetDreams May 2012 #23

I imagine southernyankeebelle just needs to get used to seeing it... hlthe2b May 2012 #24

I am use to seeing it. I did it myself with my own child a few years ago. I have southernyankeebelle May 2012 #31

I meant get used to seeing while in uniform. That's what I think may be giving some pause. hlthe2b May 2012 #32

But we don't have to inflict our personal preferences on others, right? In fact, we shouldn't. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #131

Mine was the first post upthread when this was posted... I think I made clear this was hlthe2b May 2012 #139

So, why did you think you should express milk before going out? vanlassie May 2012 #51

You probably haven't been sent to the jury because no one wants to hide your posts. msanthrope May 2012 #66

Ask me if I care what you think? Nope, I know every time we bring up this topic people southernyankeebelle May 2012 #82

I am not disputing your right to your opinion...merely suggesting that it is msanthrope May 2012 #86

You were too uncomfortable to nurse in public, so you want everyone else to be, too. pnwmom May 2012 #85

And if some former breastfeeding in the closet moms vanlassie May 2012 #91

Me, too! I'm proud of them for being braver than I was. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #93

Exactly! Dorian Gray May 2012 #137

+ a million. everything you said. nt laundry_queen May 2012 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond May 2012 #53

Try to avoid comparing breastfeeding to Playgirl magazines. MissB May 2012 #58

Where did I say Playgirl? I never said anything like that. get over it. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #65

"...male soldier....sex magazine...." MissB May 2012 #75

I wasn't thinking of that one. I was thinking of the Advocate. Which by the way is an southernyankeebelle May 2012 #78

The Advocate? What does breastfeeding have to do with The Advocate? n/t pnwmom May 2012 #101

Nothing. Just like Playgirl has nothing to do with breastfeeding. I was responding to someoneelse southernyankeebelle May 2012 #191

So breastfeeding is like a male soldier having a photograph in The Advocate obamanut2012 May 2012 #175

The Advocate is a "sex magazine" now? LeftyMom May 2012 #187

No, I was responding to someoneelse. The Advocate is a great magazine. I have southernyankeebelle May 2012 #190

So the Advocate is a sex magazine now? MissB May 2012 #229

They ARE honoring their uniform. pnwmom May 2012 #69

+++++++++ n/t FedUpWithIt All May 2012 #110

I care less about the actual act... Cave_Johnson May 2012 #105

Why? Would they have to "change" before vanlassie May 2012 #106

The woman in the photo/OP Cave_Johnson May 2012 #134

What's wrong with encouraging other military moms to breastfeed? pnwmom May 2012 #130

It's a preference and professional thing for me... Cave_Johnson May 2012 #135

I think getting Limbaugh off of Armed Foces Radio Kingofalldems May 2012 #152

I am glad you never eat in public. ret5hd May 2012 #196

What is unprofessional about nursing a child? riderinthestorm May 2012 #198

Your belief isn't the law, fortunately. And neither is your preference. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #235

Why? They aren't breaking any regs obamanut2012 May 2012 #177

MIRT, cleanup in aisle 5. nt stevenleser May 2012 #192

Sigh. FedUpWithIt All May 2012 #109

Myself, I hope the babies dribbled breast milk all over those uniforms. Zorra May 2012 #115

Now if those uniforms were covered in blood MattBaggins May 2012 #199

Exactly! And the 1% doesn't make money off breast milk, Zorra May 2012 #213

A male soldier breastfeeding would fascinate me, however. aquart May 2012 #122

breastfeeding = sex? wow. piratefish08 May 2012 #144

I wish you would stop posting these things about our female soldiers obamanut2012 May 2012 #157

LOL, the boobies the boobies snooper2 May 2012 #166

Do bottlefeeding mothers have to change clothes to feed their babies? LeftyMom May 2012 #183

Exactly!!!!!! obamanut2012 May 2012 #186

Possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read. The list of absurd and perverse assumptions Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #206

This is not sex, but a natural function nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #216

try to grow up. the world needs adults CBGLuthier May 2012 #238

Oh my FSM! Pieces of cloth are being defiled! GIT A ROPE!!! backscatter712 May 2012 #239

bwahahahahahaaa... now that's funny. spanone Jun 2012 #261

Really so you're ok if they get blown to bits in that uniform but LaurenG Jun 2012 #266

First of all, they are not soldiers; they're airmen. sarge43 Jun 2012 #268

People who compare breastfeeding to "urinating and defecating"? Nye Bevan May 2012 #5

You were asking me for examples, earlier? Occulus May 2012 #11

Oh good GAWD! Texasgal May 2012 #8

People are really offended by this? Dorian Gray May 2012 #12

Dammit. Now I have a new fetish. FSogol May 2012 #15

That's better than this. rug May 2012 #17

thank you. plus a million. elehhhhna May 2012 #19

Absolutely...and it sickens me that this is hard for some to grasp. FedUpWithIt All May 2012 #110

Well stated -- well done obamanut2012 May 2012 #178

Gooddamnit, now I'm pissed off again. morningfog May 2012 #207

Not a big deal. AJTheMan May 2012 #21

personally Im not interested in seeing other people sucking on body parts, male or female nt msongs May 2012 #26

Look away, then. MineralMan May 2012 #146

These are nursing children obamanut2012 May 2012 #179

So? There are lots of legal activities I'm not personally interested in. pnwmom May 2012 #236

Another excuse for a boob shot. So many boob shots in the media. Honeycombe8 May 2012 #28

This is about choosing to breastfeed which is eminently healthier for babies riderinthestorm May 2012 #30

Look at hte photo. It's a boob shot, plain & simple. Doesn't matter the reason. Honeycombe8 May 2012 #40

Nope. Its not and I'm sorry you can only see it that way. riderinthestorm May 2012 #55

why not throw a blanket over the kids and boobs on the left? blueamy66 May 2012 #136

perhaps you should try eating with your nose smooshed up against your plate Maine-ah May 2012 #140

Exactly Maine-ah. PotatoChip May 2012 #171

1000 n/t. polly7 May 2012 #185

well, I was adopted and never had the pleasure blueamy66 May 2012 #248

ooooh, that's a good one blueamy66 Jun 2012 #257

ever breastfeed a baby? Maine-ah Jun 2012 #262

nope, and don't want to blueamy66 Jun 2012 #264

Guess What Blueamy? Most of us see the babies and the lovely mommies. vanlassie May 2012 #145

I am focused on the HUGE boobs on the left.... blueamy66 May 2012 #249

HUGE?? HUGE??? ARE YOU SERIOUS?? vanlassie May 2012 #252

Thanks, but I have a clue. blueamy66 Jun 2012 #256

I'm a lesbian, and like women's breasts, and when I look at this photo obamanut2012 May 2012 #180

Yes, people are really saying something about themselves stevenleser May 2012 #193

Look at the picture. She's wearing a pushup bra or pushing the babies up against her boobs... Honeycombe8 May 2012 #253

of course you are right honeycombe8 seabeyond May 2012 #62

Offen-sensitivity much? appal_jack May 2012 #68

It's a breastfeeding shot, plain and simple. No big deal except to prudes or perverts. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #81

Simple and to the point. Exactly and perfect. nt stevenleser May 2012 #200

No it is not. People are so hung up on seeing a naked breast that they make it sexual. Jennicut May 2012 #141

you are over 60 correct? snooper2 May 2012 #169

Yay!! I love this! Long overdue! Bravo Ms Scott! riderinthestorm May 2012 #29

This is in Afghanistan and the Taliban are upset, right? Prometheus Bound May 2012 #35

As I recall... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #36

What a disgusting statement vanlassie May 2012 #74

in an orderly, proficient, military manner discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #108

Read the article. There are no rules regarding breastfeeding. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #80

I call your attention to... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #110

You can pull up a shirt without unbuttoning it. No problem. In fact, pnwmom May 2012 #128

The women in the picture... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #149

As Is atted upthread, I aclled someone who does this for a living obamanut2012 May 2012 #182

As I said... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #203

But Olive Gardens don't have drive-through's!1!1! appal_jack May 2012 #218

Well true enough! discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #226

The fact that you aren't aware means little except you aren't aware. pnwmom May 2012 #240

Maybe if I used CAPITAL letters... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #246

Nope, no regs against breastfeeding, none obamanut2012 May 2012 #181

My remark... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #189

and body fluids. nt riderinthestorm May 2012 #201

My #189... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #221

The Soviets are still trying to steal our precious bodily fluids, you know. DisgustipatedinCA May 2012 #244

I call your attention to... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #110

No worries. T-shirts, as in the photo, don't have zippers, snaps, or buttons. And even pnwmom May 2012 #129

please see post #149 discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #150

So soldiers crying are also a violation? Tears are a body fluid afterall. riderinthestorm May 2012 #87

see my post #110 discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #114

Breastfeeding can be accomplished by simply raising a shirt -- without unfastening anything. pnwmom May 2012 #132

Your post #36 distinctly mentioned bodily fluids being banned under the regs. riderinthestorm May 2012 #194

Negative discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #215

Yes! Yes! Disgusting! There are rules!!! ROOOLES!!! Zorra May 2012 #118

I wouldn't say disgusting. discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #120

Hawkeye: "Whatever it is, Henry, it better be good." Zorra May 2012 #220

As I frequently say... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #225

Milk is like blood, without the hemoglobin. When a soldier gets a bloody nose, pnwmom May 2012 #133

It's not about blowing your nose... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #153

No, it's about feeding a baby. Which is even more important than blowing your nose. pnwmom May 2012 #231

The various PDAs you mention... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #245

How old is this fucking country, 12? nt Guy Whitey Corngood May 2012 #57

Ha. I'm thinking 10. MissB May 2012 #61

I guess I was feeling generous. nt Guy Whitey Corngood May 2012 #88

I find it disgusting too. Bonobo May 2012 #79

Maybe we're on to something. vanlassie May 2012 #83

Or maybe Bonobo May 2012 #90

YEP. And the strident defense of "the mission" vanlassie May 2012 #92

Exactly my thoughts. The picture is creepy. Moreover redgreenandblue May 2012 #123

Oh, mamas are quite capable of being nurturing and violent in defense of loved ones aikoaiko May 2012 #143

Except that America's wars usually destroy the lives of innocents and accomplish little more. redgreenandblue May 2012 #160

I think this picture is the least of our worries concerning our war mongering. aikoaiko May 2012 #163

True. I personally think women should breast feed whenever or whereever they want. redgreenandblue May 2012 #168

Women have a hard enough time being taken serious avebury May 2012 #94

Do you feel the same way when you see a male soldier sweeping a child into his arms? pnwmom May 2012 #95

I think this signifies a new generation of military... cynatnite May 2012 #98

Exactly why would breastfeeding in uniform vanlassie May 2012 #99

I will tell you exactly why pictures like this avebury May 2012 #147

Honestly, this post makes absolutely no sense to me. None. riderinthestorm May 2012 #195

breast feeding women can't be taken seriously? dana_b May 2012 #211

So you don't think women should be allowed to breastfeed wherever they choose? Nye Bevan May 2012 #104

I think that discretion is the order of day when it comes to breast feeding. The soldier avebury May 2012 #142

Taken seriously.Writing and speaking skills are essential if you want to be taken seriously. Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #212

Non-issue-and with enough exposure, no pun intended, it will be broadly regarded as such one day . FedUpWithIt All May 2012 #116

Were these women under my command sarisataka May 2012 #117

Well, Um... That's the thing. vanlassie May 2012 #121

How do you propose that the military person handle this avebury May 2012 #174

Sure but that is way off the subject vanlassie May 2012 #188

You do realize these women aren't bringing their children to work right? riderinthestorm May 2012 #197

While a person does not have the right to decide how working parents get to avebury May 2012 #222

All of your questions are moot since the military has already figured out those answers riderinthestorm May 2012 #230

That is why there is a chain of command sarisataka May 2012 #250

I chose medical issue sarisataka May 2012 #210

And the same women would call an airstrike on a house full of children redgreenandblue May 2012 #127

SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!!! stlsaxman May 2012 #138

Beautiful! In 1973 pregnant women were discharged or were sent for an abortion. kickysnana May 2012 #148

Fascinating to see the different ways DUers perceive this picture. Nye Bevan May 2012 #151

I just want to offer them chairs so they'd be Lars39 May 2012 #156

The blind men and the boo.. err.. elephant.. Fumesucker May 2012 #205

And we wonder how this nation got into the dire straights in which we find ourselves... Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #214

While true, I think many of those are one-offs. The VAST majority of DUers see it like you stevenleser Jun 2012 #271

I guess if it's against the uniform code then detractors have a point 4th law of robotics May 2012 #155

It isn't against regs in anyway obamanut2012 May 2012 #184

Would a picture of two mothers in uniform bottle feeding be disturbing? Cairycat May 2012 #172

Atten-Hut! Hubert Flottz May 2012 #176

If Americans would actually travel anywhere... Tikki May 2012 #204

You all really want to get your knickers in a twist, google "Male lactation" FedUpWithIt All May 2012 #208

As long as they aren't at the Olive Garden, I have no problem whatsoever treestar May 2012 #209

It's just a fucking boob people! We all sucked on them! Dragonbreathp9d May 2012 #223

No, alas, some people didn't get the chance. Maybe that's part of the problem? pnwmom May 2012 #237

I am not so proud of myself to think that you are writing about me..... blueamy66 Jun 2012 #258

What I said obviously only applies to those who are disparaging public breastfeeding. pnwmom Jun 2012 #259

just throw a blanket over the boob for cripe's sake blueamy66 Jun 2012 #260

Sorry, but that's against uniform regulations! And besides, it's suffocating to eat under a blanket. pnwmom Jun 2012 #263

whatever....I don't get you and you don't get me blueamy66 Jun 2012 #265

Why the difference? Because with twins you can't easily arrange their bodies to cover everything up. pnwmom Jun 2012 #267

Yeah, like she has to feed them both at the same time blueamy66 Jun 2012 #269

Repugs want everyone (everyone!) off the government teat! skip fox May 2012 #227

lol obamanut2012 May 2012 #228

I find it odd and somewhat disturbing --> daaron May 2012 #247

Not around me they don't. Just try it MFers. nt DCKit Jun 2012 #254

k NCTraveler Jun 2012 #255