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discntnt_irny_srcsm

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226. Well true enough!

Thu May 31, 2012, 03:01 PM

May 2012

On duty or otherwise uniformed military folks wanting to eat at an Olive Garden can not if wearing utility clothing. As I read they are also restricted from using frequent flyer miles to upgrade cabin class while flying in uniform.

As for the "allowances" you find reasonable, I agree. My experience is out of date. The Air Force has uniform maternity clothing now. Having said that unless and until those allowances have been approved, all service members should comply with all regulations and orders as directed.

Further, if these allowances are lacking at the moment, I think it would be a fine and thoughtful exercise for all groups new parents and breastfeeding groups to address these ideas to Congress and to the Air Force Senior Staff most particularly:

- Deputy Chief of Staff of the Air Force for Manpower, Personnel and Services
- Secretary of the Air Force, Michael B. Donley and
- your particular Congressmen/women.

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Military Moms Breastfeeding in Uniform Stir Controversy [View all] cynatnite May 2012 OP

Stupid controversy... hlthe2b May 2012 #1

Beautiful women! I love this! CTyankee May 2012 #2

I hate this picture. These women are in uniform. All soldiers are suppose to honor the southernyankeebelle May 2012 #3

Breastfeeding is not about sex... cynatnite May 2012 #4

FWIW, southernyankeebelle believes women should be segregated in the military, not in combat roles, riderinthestorm May 2012 #25

Oh I am flattered you remember me. Of course your alittle off but that's ok. Your southernyankeebelle May 2012 #37

I am a vet and I find your thinking antiquated and offensive... cynatnite May 2012 #41

You then of all people know what the mission of the military always has been. I know it is not southernyankeebelle May 2012 #45

I've got experience that trumps your opinion... cynatnite May 2012 #52

Yes I know that. Your talking to a military brat. My dad retired from the Air Force after 22 yrs southernyankeebelle May 2012 #64

Never once did I question you or your patriotism...NEVER... cynatnite May 2012 #73

Well I looked googled breastfeeding in the military. Evidently at this time there is no regulation. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #76

Oh feel free to correct me about anything I've mis-remembered. Your positions ARE memorable riderinthestorm May 2012 #47

Thank you again. I don't remember your comments. But I am finished for tonite. I think southernyankeebelle May 2012 #49

You memory is correct obamanut2012 May 2012 #159

<----- vet here, even got shot at nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #217

As a woman that has served, I find it more than antiquated...it's offensive. n/t cynatnite May 2012 #38

I posted the same thing down thread obamanut2012 May 2012 #158

Oh hell, let's go all the way sarge43 Jun 2012 #270

It is nothing personal. Gosh can't you people realize that. Think about the mission of the southernyankeebelle May 2012 #39

Apparently it must be for you considering your visceral reaction to soldiers breastfeeding... cynatnite May 2012 #44

Ok it is your opinion. Fine. I disagree and I am not changing my mind. So let it go. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #48

This is not about feelings...this is about facts which you choose to ignore... cynatnite May 2012 #63

"Bring the damn draft back." What does that have to do with anything? pnwmom May 2012 #71

I'd love to bring the draft back. aquart May 2012 #125

This poster does believe that obamanut2012 May 2012 #162

The draft can go to hell obamanut2012 May 2012 #161

It isn't dishonoring the uniform nor does it have anything to do with sex. jp11 May 2012 #6

You may want to check the military regulations before you say anything. I wonder did they southernyankeebelle May 2012 #33

If they're off duty, they don't need permission. n/t cynatnite May 2012 #46

You of all people should know a soldier is on duty 24/7 a day. You are owned by the military southernyankeebelle May 2012 #50

I thought you were finished for tonight. MissB May 2012 #54

Of course, but off duty is still off duty... cynatnite May 2012 #56

You will never get it. Sorry. What do you think the purpose of the military is? southernyankeebelle May 2012 #67

I lived it, dear... cynatnite May 2012 #72

Thank you for your service. You still don't get it. So peace be with you and your family. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #84

Close your eyes! You will surely be offended by this clip of a uniformed soldier pnwmom May 2012 #97

Or this!!! obamanut2012 May 2012 #167

OMG! n/t pnwmom May 2012 #232

Hold it, you're telling somebody nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #219

(self-delete) pnwmom May 2012 #233

Gosh, I guess your service wasn't on the REAL "getting it" list (whatever "it" is) riderinthestorm May 2012 #89

I think I'm glad I did. n/t cynatnite May 2012 #96

A flight medic? aquart May 2012 #126

That's been a little while ago... cynatnite May 2012 #154

To defend and protect our citizens. Even the teeny tiny hungry ones. aquart May 2012 #124

Not true -- you have off duty hours obamanut2012 May 2012 #165

Why don't you show us the military regulation that applies here? Because it doesn't exist. pnwmom May 2012 #70

There is no military regulation pertaining to breastfeeding in uniform... cynatnite May 2012 #77

Thank you for your service, cynatnite -- a real sacrifice for any mother or father. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #102

There isn't obamanut2012 May 2012 #170

I know for a fact they aren't breaking regs obamanut2012 May 2012 #164

What???? They don't have to wear heels anymore? pnwmom May 2012 #234

I AM APPALLED!!!!!! obamanut2012 May 2012 #241

LOL. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #243

But, but, running in heels is so sexy nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #251

I really don't have anything nice to say to that post. Occulus May 2012 #7

Wow. Just wow. Starry Messenger May 2012 #9

Errr.. they are in their work clothes. Texasgal May 2012 #10

WTF? Dorian Gray May 2012 #13

Feeding your child in the most natural way possible - how does that dishonor the uniform? BattyDem May 2012 #14

The problem here is we are mixing up 2 things. I have no problem with breastfeeding. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #43

I didn't mix up anything. BattyDem May 2012 #119

I just talked to a Lt. Colonel who is a protocol officer obamanut2012 May 2012 #173

How would you suggest a female soldier, who you say is NEVER off-duty, and must wear the morningfog May 2012 #202

Her suggestion is no women in the military. Or go back to the segregated times riderinthestorm May 2012 #224

Wow. morningfog May 2012 #16

how does feeding your infant "dishonor" your stupid outfit? elehhhhna May 2012 #18

That's what I was wondering. Or, the converse: how does one "honor" a set of clothes? DisgustipatedinCA May 2012 #242

You think breast feeding is sexy, do ya? Iggo May 2012 #20

Please delete your post. You sound like a fool? How is breastfeeding sexual?? n-t Logical May 2012 #22

Last time I checked this forum is a discussion group. I think I have rights to say what I want. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #27

So, why did you make the analogy between women breast feeding and Luminous Animal May 2012 #34

I didn't even think of it that why. I guess that is where your mind is. I don't think southernyankeebelle May 2012 #42

That's not where my mind is. You brought up sex. You, yourself, introduced sex. Luminous Animal May 2012 #103

You sound like part of the problem. n-t Logical May 2012 #59

You're the one who compared it to a male soldier in a sex magazine.... cynatnite May 2012 #60

You breastfed your child in private, which was your right. But women these days have every right pnwmom May 2012 #100

* SunsetDreams May 2012 #23

I imagine southernyankeebelle just needs to get used to seeing it... hlthe2b May 2012 #24

I am use to seeing it. I did it myself with my own child a few years ago. I have southernyankeebelle May 2012 #31

I meant get used to seeing while in uniform. That's what I think may be giving some pause. hlthe2b May 2012 #32

But we don't have to inflict our personal preferences on others, right? In fact, we shouldn't. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #131

Mine was the first post upthread when this was posted... I think I made clear this was hlthe2b May 2012 #139

So, why did you think you should express milk before going out? vanlassie May 2012 #51

You probably haven't been sent to the jury because no one wants to hide your posts. msanthrope May 2012 #66

Ask me if I care what you think? Nope, I know every time we bring up this topic people southernyankeebelle May 2012 #82

I am not disputing your right to your opinion...merely suggesting that it is msanthrope May 2012 #86

You were too uncomfortable to nurse in public, so you want everyone else to be, too. pnwmom May 2012 #85

And if some former breastfeeding in the closet moms vanlassie May 2012 #91

Me, too! I'm proud of them for being braver than I was. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #93

Exactly! Dorian Gray May 2012 #137

+ a million. everything you said. nt laundry_queen May 2012 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond May 2012 #53

Try to avoid comparing breastfeeding to Playgirl magazines. MissB May 2012 #58

Where did I say Playgirl? I never said anything like that. get over it. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #65

"...male soldier....sex magazine...." MissB May 2012 #75

I wasn't thinking of that one. I was thinking of the Advocate. Which by the way is an southernyankeebelle May 2012 #78

The Advocate? What does breastfeeding have to do with The Advocate? n/t pnwmom May 2012 #101

Nothing. Just like Playgirl has nothing to do with breastfeeding. I was responding to someoneelse southernyankeebelle May 2012 #191

So breastfeeding is like a male soldier having a photograph in The Advocate obamanut2012 May 2012 #175

The Advocate is a "sex magazine" now? LeftyMom May 2012 #187

No, I was responding to someoneelse. The Advocate is a great magazine. I have southernyankeebelle May 2012 #190

So the Advocate is a sex magazine now? MissB May 2012 #229

They ARE honoring their uniform. pnwmom May 2012 #69

+++++++++ n/t FedUpWithIt All May 2012 #110

I care less about the actual act... Cave_Johnson May 2012 #105

Why? Would they have to "change" before vanlassie May 2012 #106

The woman in the photo/OP Cave_Johnson May 2012 #134

What's wrong with encouraging other military moms to breastfeed? pnwmom May 2012 #130

It's a preference and professional thing for me... Cave_Johnson May 2012 #135

I think getting Limbaugh off of Armed Foces Radio Kingofalldems May 2012 #152

I am glad you never eat in public. ret5hd May 2012 #196

What is unprofessional about nursing a child? riderinthestorm May 2012 #198

Your belief isn't the law, fortunately. And neither is your preference. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #235

Why? They aren't breaking any regs obamanut2012 May 2012 #177

MIRT, cleanup in aisle 5. nt stevenleser May 2012 #192

Sigh. FedUpWithIt All May 2012 #109

Myself, I hope the babies dribbled breast milk all over those uniforms. Zorra May 2012 #115

Now if those uniforms were covered in blood MattBaggins May 2012 #199

Exactly! And the 1% doesn't make money off breast milk, Zorra May 2012 #213

A male soldier breastfeeding would fascinate me, however. aquart May 2012 #122

breastfeeding = sex? wow. piratefish08 May 2012 #144

I wish you would stop posting these things about our female soldiers obamanut2012 May 2012 #157

LOL, the boobies the boobies snooper2 May 2012 #166

Do bottlefeeding mothers have to change clothes to feed their babies? LeftyMom May 2012 #183

Exactly!!!!!! obamanut2012 May 2012 #186

Possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read. The list of absurd and perverse assumptions Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #206

This is not sex, but a natural function nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #216

try to grow up. the world needs adults CBGLuthier May 2012 #238

Oh my FSM! Pieces of cloth are being defiled! GIT A ROPE!!! backscatter712 May 2012 #239

bwahahahahahaaa... now that's funny. spanone Jun 2012 #261

Really so you're ok if they get blown to bits in that uniform but LaurenG Jun 2012 #266

First of all, they are not soldiers; they're airmen. sarge43 Jun 2012 #268

People who compare breastfeeding to "urinating and defecating"? Nye Bevan May 2012 #5

You were asking me for examples, earlier? Occulus May 2012 #11

Oh good GAWD! Texasgal May 2012 #8

People are really offended by this? Dorian Gray May 2012 #12

Dammit. Now I have a new fetish. FSogol May 2012 #15

That's better than this. rug May 2012 #17

thank you. plus a million. elehhhhna May 2012 #19

Absolutely...and it sickens me that this is hard for some to grasp. FedUpWithIt All May 2012 #110

Well stated -- well done obamanut2012 May 2012 #178

Gooddamnit, now I'm pissed off again. morningfog May 2012 #207

Not a big deal. AJTheMan May 2012 #21

personally Im not interested in seeing other people sucking on body parts, male or female nt msongs May 2012 #26

Look away, then. MineralMan May 2012 #146

These are nursing children obamanut2012 May 2012 #179

So? There are lots of legal activities I'm not personally interested in. pnwmom May 2012 #236

Another excuse for a boob shot. So many boob shots in the media. Honeycombe8 May 2012 #28

This is about choosing to breastfeed which is eminently healthier for babies riderinthestorm May 2012 #30

Look at hte photo. It's a boob shot, plain & simple. Doesn't matter the reason. Honeycombe8 May 2012 #40

Nope. Its not and I'm sorry you can only see it that way. riderinthestorm May 2012 #55

why not throw a blanket over the kids and boobs on the left? blueamy66 May 2012 #136

perhaps you should try eating with your nose smooshed up against your plate Maine-ah May 2012 #140

Exactly Maine-ah. PotatoChip May 2012 #171

1000 n/t. polly7 May 2012 #185

well, I was adopted and never had the pleasure blueamy66 May 2012 #248

ooooh, that's a good one blueamy66 Jun 2012 #257

ever breastfeed a baby? Maine-ah Jun 2012 #262

nope, and don't want to blueamy66 Jun 2012 #264

Guess What Blueamy? Most of us see the babies and the lovely mommies. vanlassie May 2012 #145

I am focused on the HUGE boobs on the left.... blueamy66 May 2012 #249

HUGE?? HUGE??? ARE YOU SERIOUS?? vanlassie May 2012 #252

Thanks, but I have a clue. blueamy66 Jun 2012 #256

I'm a lesbian, and like women's breasts, and when I look at this photo obamanut2012 May 2012 #180

Yes, people are really saying something about themselves stevenleser May 2012 #193

Look at the picture. She's wearing a pushup bra or pushing the babies up against her boobs... Honeycombe8 May 2012 #253

of course you are right honeycombe8 seabeyond May 2012 #62

Offen-sensitivity much? appal_jack May 2012 #68

It's a breastfeeding shot, plain and simple. No big deal except to prudes or perverts. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #81

Simple and to the point. Exactly and perfect. nt stevenleser May 2012 #200

No it is not. People are so hung up on seeing a naked breast that they make it sexual. Jennicut May 2012 #141

you are over 60 correct? snooper2 May 2012 #169

Yay!! I love this! Long overdue! Bravo Ms Scott! riderinthestorm May 2012 #29

This is in Afghanistan and the Taliban are upset, right? Prometheus Bound May 2012 #35

As I recall... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #36

What a disgusting statement vanlassie May 2012 #74

in an orderly, proficient, military manner discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #108

Read the article. There are no rules regarding breastfeeding. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #80

I call your attention to... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #110

You can pull up a shirt without unbuttoning it. No problem. In fact, pnwmom May 2012 #128

The women in the picture... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #149

As Is atted upthread, I aclled someone who does this for a living obamanut2012 May 2012 #182

As I said... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #203

But Olive Gardens don't have drive-through's!1!1! appal_jack May 2012 #218

Well true enough! discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #226

The fact that you aren't aware means little except you aren't aware. pnwmom May 2012 #240

Maybe if I used CAPITAL letters... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #246

Nope, no regs against breastfeeding, none obamanut2012 May 2012 #181

My remark... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #189

and body fluids. nt riderinthestorm May 2012 #201

My #189... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #221

The Soviets are still trying to steal our precious bodily fluids, you know. DisgustipatedinCA May 2012 #244

I call your attention to... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #110

No worries. T-shirts, as in the photo, don't have zippers, snaps, or buttons. And even pnwmom May 2012 #129

please see post #149 discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #150

So soldiers crying are also a violation? Tears are a body fluid afterall. riderinthestorm May 2012 #87

see my post #110 discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #114

Breastfeeding can be accomplished by simply raising a shirt -- without unfastening anything. pnwmom May 2012 #132

Your post #36 distinctly mentioned bodily fluids being banned under the regs. riderinthestorm May 2012 #194

Negative discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #215

Yes! Yes! Disgusting! There are rules!!! ROOOLES!!! Zorra May 2012 #118

I wouldn't say disgusting. discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #120

Hawkeye: "Whatever it is, Henry, it better be good." Zorra May 2012 #220

As I frequently say... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #225

Milk is like blood, without the hemoglobin. When a soldier gets a bloody nose, pnwmom May 2012 #133

It's not about blowing your nose... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #153

No, it's about feeding a baby. Which is even more important than blowing your nose. pnwmom May 2012 #231

The various PDAs you mention... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #245

How old is this fucking country, 12? nt Guy Whitey Corngood May 2012 #57

Ha. I'm thinking 10. MissB May 2012 #61

I guess I was feeling generous. nt Guy Whitey Corngood May 2012 #88

I find it disgusting too. Bonobo May 2012 #79

Maybe we're on to something. vanlassie May 2012 #83

Or maybe Bonobo May 2012 #90

YEP. And the strident defense of "the mission" vanlassie May 2012 #92

Exactly my thoughts. The picture is creepy. Moreover redgreenandblue May 2012 #123

Oh, mamas are quite capable of being nurturing and violent in defense of loved ones aikoaiko May 2012 #143

Except that America's wars usually destroy the lives of innocents and accomplish little more. redgreenandblue May 2012 #160

I think this picture is the least of our worries concerning our war mongering. aikoaiko May 2012 #163

True. I personally think women should breast feed whenever or whereever they want. redgreenandblue May 2012 #168

Women have a hard enough time being taken serious avebury May 2012 #94

Do you feel the same way when you see a male soldier sweeping a child into his arms? pnwmom May 2012 #95

I think this signifies a new generation of military... cynatnite May 2012 #98

Exactly why would breastfeeding in uniform vanlassie May 2012 #99

I will tell you exactly why pictures like this avebury May 2012 #147

Honestly, this post makes absolutely no sense to me. None. riderinthestorm May 2012 #195

breast feeding women can't be taken seriously? dana_b May 2012 #211

So you don't think women should be allowed to breastfeed wherever they choose? Nye Bevan May 2012 #104

I think that discretion is the order of day when it comes to breast feeding. The soldier avebury May 2012 #142

Taken seriously.Writing and speaking skills are essential if you want to be taken seriously. Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #212

Non-issue-and with enough exposure, no pun intended, it will be broadly regarded as such one day . FedUpWithIt All May 2012 #116

Were these women under my command sarisataka May 2012 #117

Well, Um... That's the thing. vanlassie May 2012 #121

How do you propose that the military person handle this avebury May 2012 #174

Sure but that is way off the subject vanlassie May 2012 #188

You do realize these women aren't bringing their children to work right? riderinthestorm May 2012 #197

While a person does not have the right to decide how working parents get to avebury May 2012 #222

All of your questions are moot since the military has already figured out those answers riderinthestorm May 2012 #230

That is why there is a chain of command sarisataka May 2012 #250

I chose medical issue sarisataka May 2012 #210

And the same women would call an airstrike on a house full of children redgreenandblue May 2012 #127

SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!!! stlsaxman May 2012 #138

Beautiful! In 1973 pregnant women were discharged or were sent for an abortion. kickysnana May 2012 #148

Fascinating to see the different ways DUers perceive this picture. Nye Bevan May 2012 #151

I just want to offer them chairs so they'd be Lars39 May 2012 #156

The blind men and the boo.. err.. elephant.. Fumesucker May 2012 #205

And we wonder how this nation got into the dire straights in which we find ourselves... Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #214

While true, I think many of those are one-offs. The VAST majority of DUers see it like you stevenleser Jun 2012 #271

I guess if it's against the uniform code then detractors have a point 4th law of robotics May 2012 #155

It isn't against regs in anyway obamanut2012 May 2012 #184

Would a picture of two mothers in uniform bottle feeding be disturbing? Cairycat May 2012 #172

Atten-Hut! Hubert Flottz May 2012 #176

If Americans would actually travel anywhere... Tikki May 2012 #204

You all really want to get your knickers in a twist, google "Male lactation" FedUpWithIt All May 2012 #208

As long as they aren't at the Olive Garden, I have no problem whatsoever treestar May 2012 #209

It's just a fucking boob people! We all sucked on them! Dragonbreathp9d May 2012 #223

No, alas, some people didn't get the chance. Maybe that's part of the problem? pnwmom May 2012 #237

I am not so proud of myself to think that you are writing about me..... blueamy66 Jun 2012 #258

What I said obviously only applies to those who are disparaging public breastfeeding. pnwmom Jun 2012 #259

just throw a blanket over the boob for cripe's sake blueamy66 Jun 2012 #260

Sorry, but that's against uniform regulations! And besides, it's suffocating to eat under a blanket. pnwmom Jun 2012 #263

whatever....I don't get you and you don't get me blueamy66 Jun 2012 #265

Why the difference? Because with twins you can't easily arrange their bodies to cover everything up. pnwmom Jun 2012 #267

Yeah, like she has to feed them both at the same time blueamy66 Jun 2012 #269

Repugs want everyone (everyone!) off the government teat! skip fox May 2012 #227

lol obamanut2012 May 2012 #228

I find it odd and somewhat disturbing --> daaron May 2012 #247

Not around me they don't. Just try it MFers. nt DCKit Jun 2012 #254

k NCTraveler Jun 2012 #255