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In reply to the discussion: Wow, ABC News. Just, wow. [View all]Hortensis
(58,785 posts)85. Sunday night and ABC leads national and world news
with this little group of would-be outsider insurrectionists whom most of the town wants gone, including the two members of the Hammond family who are due to report to finish their prison sentences.
What was originally happening here -- before this politically motivated little group arrived?
"A jury sitting in Pendleton, Oregon found the Hammonds guilty of the arsons after a two-week trial in June 2012. The trial involved allegations that the Hammonds, owners of Hammond Ranches, Inc., ignited a series of fires on lands managed by the U.S. Bureau of Land Management (BLM), on which the Hammonds had grazing rights leased to them for their cattle operation.
The jury convicted both of the Hammonds of using fire to destroy federal property for a 2001 arson known as the Hardie-Hammond Fire, located in the Steens Mountain Cooperative Management and Protection Area. Witnesses at trial, including a relative of the Hammonds, testified the arson occurred shortly after Steven Hammond and his hunting party illegally slaughtered several deer on BLM property.
Jurors were told that Steven Hammond handed out Strike Anywhere matches with instructions that they be lit and dropped on the ground because they were going to light up the whole country on fire. One witness testified that he barely escaped the eight to ten foot high flames caused by the arson. The fire consumed 139 acres of public land and destroyed all evidence of the game violations.
After committing the arson, Steven Hammond called the BLM office in Burns, Oregon and claimed the fire was started on Hammond property to burn off invasive species and had inadvertently burned onto public lands. Dwight and Steven Hammond told one of their relatives to keep his mouth shut and that nobody needed to know about the fire.
The jury also convicted Steven Hammond of using fire to destroy federal property regarding a 2006 arson known as the Krumbo Butte Fire located in the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge and Steen Mountain Cooperative Management and Protection Area. An August lightning storm started numerous fires and a burn ban was in effect while BLM firefighters fought those fires.
Despite the ban, without permission or notification to BLM, Steven Hammond started several back fires in an attempt save the ranchs winter feed. The fires burned onto public land and were seen by BLM firefighters camped nearby. The firefighters took steps to ensure their safety and reported the arsons.
By law, arson on federal land carries a five-year mandatory minimum sentence. When the Hammonds were originally sentenced, they argued that the five-year mandatory minimum terms were unconstitutional and the trial court agreed and imposed sentences well below what the law required based upon the jurys verdicts. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, however, upheld the federal law, reasoning that given the seriousness of arson, a five-year sentence is not grossly disproportionate to the offense. The court vacated the original, unlawful sentences and ordered that the Hammonds be resentenced in compliance with the law. In March 2015, the Supreme Court rejected the Hammonds petitions for certiorari. Today, Chief Judge Aiken imposed five year prison terms on each of the Hammonds, with credit for time they already served."
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I can't find any images of these militia intruders brandishing weapons at the Fed. Bldg
KeepItReal
Jan 2016
#4
“The facility has been the tool to do all the tyranny that has been placed upon the Hammonds,”
pangaia
Jan 2016
#6
Tyranny? You poach deer using improvised structures, burn them to destroy the evidence
HereSince1628
Jan 2016
#17
I like your idea, my only change would be liquid manure instead of water. Seems more fitting. n/t
A Simple Game
Jan 2016
#60
I see opportunities here. My Government has the resources to do this right.
MasonDreams
Jan 2016
#93
Now we know what we did wrong at the Occupy protests. No one saw the protests as "Peaceful"
LiberalArkie
Jan 2016
#20
Imagine what would've happened if the Occupy Movement would've armed themselves,
raindaddy
Jan 2016
#24
How about the Armed Occupy Movement demanding their 2nd amendment rights and 1st
LiberalArkie
Jan 2016
#65
When the CA Black Panthers armed themselves to protect their own neighborhoods, then governor
tblue37
Jan 2016
#47
And Fred Hampton getting shot in the back by the Chicago police while laying in bed.
jalan48
Jan 2016
#52
I would ask what the hell is wrong with ABC news, but we all know it's everything!
Laser102
Jan 2016
#33
Just proves that you can disclaim white privilege but you can never give it up....
marble falls
Jan 2016
#44
I haven't so much as looked at the ABC News website for years; it's been totally tea-bagged.
forest444
Jan 2016
#46
Dear head make-believe terrorist: Enjoy your stay. If you come across the lunch in the fridge
jtuck004
Jan 2016
#59
As a DUer quipped during the Clive Bundy Navada stand off: Drop tear gas. These bearded fools
FailureToCommunicate
Jan 2016
#62
The Harney County sheriff says they were attempting to overthrow the government:
Qutzupalotl
Jan 2016
#82
Just tell the Waco, Texas police that these nuts are bikers heading to Waco next!
Dustlawyer
Jan 2016
#96
You're just ridiculous. This EXACT thinking is rampant at far right-wing sites. nt
stillwaiting
Jan 2016
#127
This is the America you will continue to get if you support the Wealthy 1% and their candidate
rhett o rick
Jan 2016
#105
Truth. We have armed insurection right out in public, and our "Democratic" government does nothing.
ladyVet
Jan 2016
#113
Never miss a chance to take a shot at Clinton, do you. Even if it's totally off-topic.
George II
Jan 2016
#124
I am reminding people that if they don't want to continue with this crap they need to vote
rhett o rick
Jan 2016
#128
You're assuming quite a bit in that "I know you guys......blah blah". Fact is you DON'T know.
George II
Jan 2016
#129
I have asked over and over how supporting the wealthy will help the poor.
rhett o rick
Jan 2016
#131