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In reply to the discussion: Wow, ABC News. Just, wow. [View all]Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)99. The Bubdys all over again
[link:Who are the Bundys, the family at the center of the Oregon occupation?|Who are the Bundys, the family at the center of the Oregon occupation?]
The armed occupation of a wildlife reserve in rural Oregon over the weekend marked the national re-emergence of the Bundy family a clan of ranchers who have amassed vocal supporters during their decades-long clash with the federal government over land rights.
The Bundy family makes up perhaps the best known of the current crop of activists who think that the federal government through expanding environmental and land regulation has unconstitutionally infringed on the rights of citizens and that armed confrontation is necessary to curb that perceived overreach.
Best known among the Bundys is Cliven, the family patriarch, a Nevada rancher who federal officials say has been illegally grazing his cattle on federal land for decades.
That dispute came to a head in April 2014, when the U.S. Bureau of Land Management tried to move Bundys cattle, and he in turn vowed to shoot any federal agent who entered the land.
His supporters took up arms, and, eventually, the federal agents ceded to Bundys demands that they leave.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks extremist groups, says that victory strengthened Bundy, his sons and their supporters, who have armed themselves against federal agents in several other land disputes, including over the weekend in eastern Oregon.
When the federal government was stopped from enforcing the law at gunpoint, that energized this entire movement, said Heidi Beirich of the law center. When you have a big win like they did at the Bundy ranch, it emboldens people. . . . It is definitely a recipe for disaster.
The law center said that in 2014, it identified 202 anti-government militia and patriot groups, including the Bundy family and their supporters. And, Beirich said, after the Bundys victory in Nevada, the center thinks that number grew by one-third in 2015.
Since running federal officers off his ranch, Bundy and his supporters have become a traveling troop co-opting various incidents in which they think the federal government is over-regulating people. In April, the Bundy family involved itself in a dispute at the Sugar Pine Mine, during which a local miner took up arms against federal agents who said he did not own the surface rights to the land he was mining. Other members of the Bundy operation went to the border, arguing that if the federal government would not prevent illegal immigration, they would do it themselves.
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I can't find any images of these militia intruders brandishing weapons at the Fed. Bldg
KeepItReal
Jan 2016
#4
“The facility has been the tool to do all the tyranny that has been placed upon the Hammonds,”
pangaia
Jan 2016
#6
Tyranny? You poach deer using improvised structures, burn them to destroy the evidence
HereSince1628
Jan 2016
#17
I like your idea, my only change would be liquid manure instead of water. Seems more fitting. n/t
A Simple Game
Jan 2016
#60
I see opportunities here. My Government has the resources to do this right.
MasonDreams
Jan 2016
#93
Now we know what we did wrong at the Occupy protests. No one saw the protests as "Peaceful"
LiberalArkie
Jan 2016
#20
Imagine what would've happened if the Occupy Movement would've armed themselves,
raindaddy
Jan 2016
#24
How about the Armed Occupy Movement demanding their 2nd amendment rights and 1st
LiberalArkie
Jan 2016
#65
When the CA Black Panthers armed themselves to protect their own neighborhoods, then governor
tblue37
Jan 2016
#47
And Fred Hampton getting shot in the back by the Chicago police while laying in bed.
jalan48
Jan 2016
#52
I would ask what the hell is wrong with ABC news, but we all know it's everything!
Laser102
Jan 2016
#33
Just proves that you can disclaim white privilege but you can never give it up....
marble falls
Jan 2016
#44
I haven't so much as looked at the ABC News website for years; it's been totally tea-bagged.
forest444
Jan 2016
#46
Dear head make-believe terrorist: Enjoy your stay. If you come across the lunch in the fridge
jtuck004
Jan 2016
#59
As a DUer quipped during the Clive Bundy Navada stand off: Drop tear gas. These bearded fools
FailureToCommunicate
Jan 2016
#62
The Harney County sheriff says they were attempting to overthrow the government:
Qutzupalotl
Jan 2016
#82
Just tell the Waco, Texas police that these nuts are bikers heading to Waco next!
Dustlawyer
Jan 2016
#96
You're just ridiculous. This EXACT thinking is rampant at far right-wing sites. nt
stillwaiting
Jan 2016
#127
This is the America you will continue to get if you support the Wealthy 1% and their candidate
rhett o rick
Jan 2016
#105
Truth. We have armed insurection right out in public, and our "Democratic" government does nothing.
ladyVet
Jan 2016
#113
Never miss a chance to take a shot at Clinton, do you. Even if it's totally off-topic.
George II
Jan 2016
#124
I am reminding people that if they don't want to continue with this crap they need to vote
rhett o rick
Jan 2016
#128
You're assuming quite a bit in that "I know you guys......blah blah". Fact is you DON'T know.
George II
Jan 2016
#129
I have asked over and over how supporting the wealthy will help the poor.
rhett o rick
Jan 2016
#131