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Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
99. The Bubdys all over again
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 10:54 PM
Jan 2016

[link:Who are the Bundys, the family at the center of the Oregon occupation?|Who are the Bundys, the family at the center of the Oregon occupation?]

The armed occupation of a wildlife reserve in rural Oregon over the weekend marked the national re-emergence of the Bundy family — a clan of ranchers who have amassed vocal supporters during their decades-long clash with the federal government over land rights.

The Bundy family makes up perhaps the best known of the current crop of activists who think that the federal government — through expanding environmental and land regulation — has unconstitutionally infringed on the rights of citizens and that armed confrontation is necessary to curb that perceived overreach.

Best known among the Bundys is Cliven, the family patriarch, a Nevada rancher who federal officials say has been illegally grazing his cattle on federal land for decades.

That dispute came to a head in April 2014, when the U.S. Bureau of Land Management tried to move Bundy’s cattle, and he in turn vowed to shoot any federal agent who entered the land.

His supporters took up arms, and, eventually, the federal agents ceded to Bundy’s demands that they leave.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks extremist groups, says that victory strengthened Bundy, his sons and their supporters, who have armed themselves against federal agents in several other land disputes, including over the weekend in eastern Oregon.

“When the federal government was stopped from enforcing the law at gunpoint, that energized this entire movement,” said Heidi Beirich of the law center. “When you have a big win like they did at the Bundy ranch, it emboldens people. . . . It is definitely a recipe for disaster.”

The law center said that in 2014, it identified 202 anti-government militia and “patriot” groups, including the Bundy family and their supporters. And, Beirich said, after the Bundys’ victory in Nevada, the center thinks that number grew by one-third in 2015.

Since running federal officers off his ranch, Bundy and his supporters have become a traveling troop — co-opting various incidents in which they think the federal government is over-regulating people. In April, the Bundy family involved itself in a dispute at the Sugar Pine Mine, during which a local miner took up arms against federal agents who said he did not own the surface rights to the land he was mining. Other members of the Bundy operation went to the border, arguing that if the federal government would not prevent illegal immigration, they would do it themselves.

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Wow, ABC News. Just, wow. [View all] marmar Jan 2016 OP
Gives whole new meaning to "wildlife refuge action." Scuba Jan 2016 #1
White Privilege. eom MohRokTah Jan 2016 #2
x1000 Baitball Blogger Jan 2016 #8
White Conservative Republican Privilege...... daleanime Jan 2016 #13
Exactly. nt SunSeeker Jan 2016 #58
Sunday night and ABC leads national and world news Hortensis Jan 2016 #85
K&R Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #3
I can't find any images of these militia intruders brandishing weapons at the Fed. Bldg KeepItReal Jan 2016 #4
Yep armed militia are 'peacefully protesting' while malaise Jan 2016 #5
Just good old boys keeping us safe. Patriots and all. RKP5637 Jan 2016 #11
That's whats missing-Merle Haggard catnhatnh Jan 2016 #66
We're keeping Merle here with us XemaSab Jan 2016 #68
That's Waylon Jennings' theme song for The Dukes o Hazzard. dmr Jan 2016 #74
Sorry... catnhatnh Jan 2016 #75
kern river hopemountain Jan 2016 #88
Guess you don't keep up with the times, try this Merle Haggard tune..... RR2 Jan 2016 #120
I think you misread my post. dmr Jan 2016 #132
Agreed.... RR2 Jan 2016 #134
“The facility has been the tool to do all the tyranny that has been placed upon the Hammonds,” pangaia Jan 2016 #6
Their beef is with the BLM XemaSab Jan 2016 #56
In this case it is the forest service they are fighting passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #69
I had some tyranny placed upon me once. louis-t Jan 2016 #76
MSM AKA "Misleading Shitty Media" n/t RKP5637 Jan 2016 #7
More ammunition for the political comedy commentators. Baitball Blogger Jan 2016 #9
Jimmy Dore will have a field day with this one. marmar Jan 2016 #10
That Liberal Press at it again. sellitman Jan 2016 #12
Compare this to Jefferson MO Glitterati Jan 2016 #14
Do you mean Ferguson, MO? brush Jan 2016 #118
Yeah, sorry Glitterati Jan 2016 #121
I was once misrepresented in an ABC production 2naSalit Jan 2016 #15
Thanks for the heads-up. polichick Jan 2016 #16
Tyranny? You poach deer using improvised structures, burn them to destroy the evidence HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #17
Uh, Robin Hood stole from the rich and gave to the poor ... eppur_se_muova Jan 2016 #22
Robin Hood poached deer, an action encouraging others to do the same. HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #26
I have suggested a easy solution several times - here it is again SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #18
I'd go... DUbeornot2be Jan 2016 #40
that stings SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #43
Added benefit... DUbeornot2be Jan 2016 #50
humiliate the clowns SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #53
I like your idea, my only change would be liquid manure instead of water. Seems more fitting. n/t A Simple Game Jan 2016 #60
I see opportunities here. My Government has the resources to do this right. MasonDreams Jan 2016 #93
What would be better davidpdx Jan 2016 #98
I second the motion. Something has to be done, it's getting ridiculous. ladyVet Jan 2016 #112
"Militia"...bullcrap...they're terrorists. SHRED Jan 2016 #19
Armed anti government christian terrorist. alfredo Jan 2016 #21
And white. SwankyXomb Jan 2016 #38
True. alfredo Jan 2016 #70
Yep. Sad to say. nt Nay Jan 2016 #87
Now we know what we did wrong at the Occupy protests. No one saw the protests as "Peaceful" LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #20
+1000. Really. Amimnoch Jan 2016 #63
Cut the water, cut the electricity. Stand back. oldandhappy Jan 2016 #23
Cut the BEER. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #42
yes! You got it! oldandhappy Jan 2016 #90
Put a little Ex-Lax in the beer. That'll blast 'em out. nt MADem Jan 2016 #104
All new meaning to "starting a revolutionary movement". Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #106
It would certainly be unique in the annals of modern civil disobedience! MADem Jan 2016 #107
Imagine what would've happened if the Occupy Movement would've armed themselves, raindaddy Jan 2016 #24
^^^That right fucking there^^^ onecaliberal Jan 2016 #30
was just about to post the same thing Pharaoh Jan 2016 #31
We'd still be under martial law Orrex Jan 2016 #41
How about the Armed Occupy Movement demanding their 2nd amendment rights and 1st LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #65
K&R demmiblue Jan 2016 #25
Terrorists! Helen Borg Jan 2016 #27
They are terrorists, ABC news. Say so. Terrorists. Use the word. Shrike47 Jan 2016 #28
So if this had been the Black Panthers? jalan48 Jan 2016 #29
When the CA Black Panthers armed themselves to protect their own neighborhoods, then governor tblue37 Jan 2016 #47
And Fred Hampton getting shot in the back by the Chicago police while laying in bed. jalan48 Jan 2016 #52
LWB (Laying while black). You know that chit can't be tolerated in Chiraq. CincyDem Jan 2016 #102
Put on some Public Enemy, very loud, LuvNewcastle Jan 2016 #32
I would ask what the hell is wrong with ABC news, but we all know it's everything! Laser102 Jan 2016 #33
Wildlife refuge? I wonder if this bunch of criminals believe jwirr Jan 2016 #34
They don't believe in Federal Lands, period. KittyWampus Jan 2016 #35
I'm sure our SWAT teams need some good anti terrorist training The Green Manalishi Jan 2016 #36
I guess next Cliven Bundy will be made into the hero of a Disney movie Jack Rabbit Jan 2016 #37
I guess they're "Acceptable Terrorists." nt valerief Jan 2016 #39
Just proves that you can disclaim white privilege but you can never give it up.... marble falls Jan 2016 #44
Right wing privilege just as much as white in this case, really. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #54
If their names were Mohammed... SHRED Jan 2016 #45
I haven't so much as looked at the ABC News website for years; it's been totally tea-bagged. forest444 Jan 2016 #46
It might be worth checking out their Twitter feed today Bjorn Against Jan 2016 #48
Thanks. Don't mind if I do. forest444 Jan 2016 #51
Without the Fed Geronimoe Jan 2016 #49
I feel sorry for the wildlife Depaysement Jan 2016 #55
If they were Muslims....... lastlib Jan 2016 #57
Dear head make-believe terrorist: Enjoy your stay. If you come across the lunch in the fridge jtuck004 Jan 2016 #59
Gee, I thought the Bundy's only wanted guns for personal protection perdita9 Jan 2016 #61
As a DUer quipped during the Clive Bundy Navada stand off: Drop tear gas. These bearded fools FailureToCommunicate Jan 2016 #62
That's the cast from DashOneBravo Jan 2016 #109
fixed FailureToCommunicate Jan 2016 #123
Instead, Drop beef jerky laced with estrogen. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2016 #117
Let's just imagine... Docreed2003 Jan 2016 #64
They might get the same treatment the people who attack Ft.Sumter got Jim Beard Jan 2016 #80
K&R... spanone Jan 2016 #67
They Need Their Own Country Yallow Jan 2016 #71
Yep. merrifield Jan 2016 #91
Second that Yep chapdrum Jan 2016 #94
What If They ALL Got The Freddie Gray Treatment Yallow Jan 2016 #72
Just imagine BLM trying this stunt CanonRay Jan 2016 #73
WTF. What a load-of-crap reporting. Duppers Jan 2016 #77
Militia = Y'all Qaeda neverforget Jan 2016 #78
LOL. Great line. lob1 Jan 2016 #92
Vanilla ISIS Lorien Jan 2016 #116
Well, at least the story is now on the "front page" of abcnews.go.com SpankMe Jan 2016 #79
Unstaffed building FreedomRain Jan 2016 #81
The Harney County sheriff says they were attempting to overthrow the government: Qutzupalotl Jan 2016 #82
These clowns are part of a much larger project sulphurdunn Jan 2016 #83
Every now and then, someone tries digging up the Sagebrush Rebellion IDemo Jan 2016 #86
Our county of 62,000 has spent half a million duhneece Jan 2016 #111
Yes, yes, YES! duhneece Jan 2016 #110
The Koch brothers are paying the Bundys Lorien Jan 2016 #114
"Occupied" a federal building with guns & threats. DirkGently Jan 2016 #84
criminal arsonist poachers burn 127 acres of the american people's land hopemountain Jan 2016 #89
This message was self-deleted by its author chapdrum Jan 2016 #95
Just tell the Waco, Texas police that these nuts are bikers heading to Waco next! Dustlawyer Jan 2016 #96
Mickey & Minnie performed as expected chapdrum Jan 2016 #97
The Bubdys all over again Jim Beard Jan 2016 #99
Oh hell. Ilsa Jan 2016 #100
How is this any different from your average college sit-in? ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2016 #101
College sit-ins NEVER involved ARMED protestors vowing to DIE Glitterati Jan 2016 #122
You're just ridiculous. This EXACT thinking is rampant at far right-wing sites. nt stillwaiting Jan 2016 #127
That one begs for attention, poor dear. Rex Jan 2016 #133
Of course the GOPukes come out and make excuses for these domestic terrorists. Rex Jan 2016 #103
This is the America you will continue to get if you support the Wealthy 1% and their candidate rhett o rick Jan 2016 #105
Truth. We have armed insurection right out in public, and our "Democratic" government does nothing. ladyVet Jan 2016 #113
Never miss a chance to take a shot at Clinton, do you. Even if it's totally off-topic. George II Jan 2016 #124
I am reminding people that if they don't want to continue with this crap they need to vote rhett o rick Jan 2016 #128
You're assuming quite a bit in that "I know you guys......blah blah". Fact is you DON'T know. George II Jan 2016 #129
I have asked over and over how supporting the wealthy will help the poor. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #131
http://abc.go.com/feedback Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #108
Go to their Facebook pages as well Lorien Jan 2016 #115
I had a big cush on George Stephanopoulos in the '90s. betsuni Jan 2016 #119
We'll protest the protesters by cutting back on red meat intake ffr Jan 2016 #125
Well, this is occupation, sort of like OWS, innit? thereismore Jan 2016 #126
not surprised, sadly... Blue_Tires Jan 2016 #130
White Privilege in action. Odin2005 Jan 2016 #135
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