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cthulu2016

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19. The judge was a former cop
Thu May 31, 2012, 05:11 PM
May 2012

Reckless driving 20 miles over speed limit is a subjective call the citing policeman makes.

And believe me, nobody representing themselves gets anything but the max here. Having seen a few iterations of the court session for people without lawyers, the judges resent them.

That same day I saw the same judge uphold a moving violation against a driver (some vague "disorderly driving" type catch-all ticket) because a passenger in his back seat flipped off a cop. Seriously.

We are not talking about a local system where what should happen has much meaning.

My lawyer didn't "do" anything except show up and know the prosecutor, but I was not convicted of a class 1 misdemeanor and perhaps losing my license for a year. I don't give a damn about the speeding ticket one way or another. The point was to avoid conviction for a real crime.

And that was accomplished.

Could I have accomplished that on my own? Maybe so. I don't know. (I do know that my personal experiences with pleading my case to authority have not always been optimal.)

The system is legal indirect bribery through certified intermediaries, hence my complaints, but if that is the system (as it sure appears to be in my county!) then one would be a fool to not get the intermediary. (In a case where the downside of conviction is intolerable.)

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I will remember this the next time a lawyer tells me not to bother hiring him for a citation. n/t Ian David May 2012 #1
It depends on the relative worth of the outcomes cthulu2016 May 2012 #2
Or you can try showing up in court early, and asking the assistant DA for a reduced charge yardwork May 2012 #4
it's all very location specific... belcffub May 2012 #3
your account reminds me of those stupid toddler beauty pageants. the girls that win have Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #5
I have always felt the American legal system was form of religion MicaelS May 2012 #6
I'm not sure if it ever existed, but we have lost any semblance of a justice system. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #7
I got hit with 26mph over the speed limit Aerows May 2012 #8
You should have asked for a jury trial. B Calm May 2012 #9
My punishment would have been much greater cthulu2016 May 2012 #10
The Judge would have dropped the charge B Calm May 2012 #18
And this, ladies and gentlemen of the jury bupkus May 2012 #11
Wow, your lawyer sucked. obxhead May 2012 #12
The judge was a former cop cthulu2016 May 2012 #19
Thanks for sharing -- a good learning experience Auggie May 2012 #13
Reminds Me Bigredhunk May 2012 #14
If you learned anything, it is B Calm May 2012 #21
In New York, nearly all offenses like this are pled down to non-moving violations, because... eggplant May 2012 #15
Thanks for sharing. jp11 May 2012 #16
2 Questions JVS May 2012 #17
Answers cthulu2016 May 2012 #20
I've been told that if you request discovery on something like that... YellowRubberDuckie May 2012 #22
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