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28. Exception for "natural born" requirement for Founding Fathers

Thu Jan 14, 2016, 04:05 PM

Jan 2016

The qualifications for President state the the person must be a natural born US citizen OR a US citizen at the time the Constitution was ratified.

So all the Founding Fathers qualified under the second option.

And the Panama canal zone was a US territory when Mccain was born there, so he's good to go.

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Ted Cruz’s birther problem grows as more constitutional law scholars say he can’t be president [View all] UCmeNdc Jan 2016 OP

The irony is that until the advent of DNA testing exboyfil Jan 2016 #1

Paternity tests do not require DNA testing. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2016 #51

Whatever it takes to derail cruz. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2016 #2

I agree! yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #3

But diplomats (and military?) might qualify IF elleng Jan 2016 #5

Update our requirements.....? suston96 Jan 2016 #11

Yeah, disallow kids born overseas to military parents. That's fair. tabasco Jan 2016 #12

Well then vote for Cruz then. He was born overseas. yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #20

Riiiiiiight. tabasco Jan 2016 #21

No. Your just mad that I called you out yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #22

If you can't win ethically... TipTok Jan 2016 #54

You took one part of my post and made a nasty remark about it yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #64

I think it is already settled... 403Forbidden Jan 2016 #30

Thanks for the laughs. Who else should be disqualified ? Bonx Jan 2016 #40

Wow. yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #41

Do we want to derail Cruz? Jim Lane Jan 2016 #23

I suspect SCOTUS would uphold his eligibility but Scalia and Thomas might vote no. yellowcanine Jan 2016 #4

What happens if he wins and it SC does this on January 25th, 2017? Reter Jan 2016 #6

Nothing because SCOTUS would rule in his favor. yellowcanine Jan 2016 #7

Perhaps two liberal Justices would vote against him Reter Jan 2016 #8

No they would not. It is not the way liberal justices rule. yellowcanine Jan 2016 #13

Until it happens, you can't be 100% sure of their votes Reter Jan 2016 #18

The most plausible argument I've seen ... starroute Jan 2016 #9

Other than that great Constitutional Scholar Orly Taitz, there was not one single issuerelated to malaise Jan 2016 #10

Well thanks a lot. I had pretty much forgotten that horrible woman. yellowcanine Jan 2016 #15

She was so stupid that she was hilarious malaise Jan 2016 #17

Only the Supreme Court can decide. tabasco Jan 2016 #14

There are PLENTY more pressing reasons to be worried about Cruz being POTUS Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2016 #16

Sorry Canada, but he should be deported back to his home country. B Calm Jan 2016 #19

Gosh. All that hate down the drain. Octafish Jan 2016 #24

This is pretty simple, FFS. At least one of his parents must be or have been a naturalized US underahedgerow Jan 2016 #25

Well no. "Natural born citizen" is the requirement to be President. DirkGently Jan 2016 #52

It's amazing how quickly folks will jump on the birther nutjob bandwagon... TipTok Jan 2016 #55

The U.S. does not recognize dual citizenship. Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #26

Yeah, that's completely wrong Bonx Jan 2016 #33

I did not say that dual citizenship is not tolerated, Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #37

You said the US does not recognize it, which it does. Bonx Jan 2016 #38

Either a person is a U.S. citizen, or they are not. Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #39

You are wrong. former9thward Jan 2016 #50

As long as Trump is a U.S. citizen, he can vote in the U.S. Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #59

I understood that post to mean Mariana Jan 2016 #83

Completely, totally, 100% wrong n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #43

I am dual citizen awake Jan 2016 #53

The U.S. does not care what other country claims you as a citizen. Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #56

You said "The U.S. does not recognize dual citizenship." awake Jan 2016 #60

If you earn income in the U.S., Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #61

A us citizen has to report and pay taxes on their world wide income as awake Jan 2016 #62

Yep. Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #67

once again you do not know of where you speak awake Jan 2016 #71

Whether you vote or not in Canadian elections is of no concern to the U.S. government. Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #58

Please reread your own post awake Jan 2016 #65

As far as rights are given to U.S. citizens, Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #66

What you are missing is that unlike what you said awake Jan 2016 #68

Please give me an example. Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #70

As I have said above I am the example, awake Jan 2016 #72

In what way? Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #73

Immigration agents at the border have recognized both of my passports and citizenships awake Jan 2016 #78

Thank you for helping me to prove my point. Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #84

Why didn't we hear this shit for McCain? KentuckyWoman Jan 2016 #27

Exception for "natural born" requirement for Founding Fathers 403Forbidden Jan 2016 #28

Chester Arthur. Charles Hughes. Barry Goldwater. George Romney. KentuckyWoman Jan 2016 #31

Arthur was born in Vermont, Hughes in New York Retrograde Jan 2016 #63

here's the text 403Forbidden Jan 2016 #29

That's absolutely not settled TeddyR Jan 2016 #34

The Canal Zone was US territory treestar Jan 2016 #86

Huge difference Reter Jan 2016 #91

If a couple more join in... Bonx Jan 2016 #32

Which other provisions of the Constitution TeddyR Jan 2016 #35

I find this narrative ridculous Bonx Jan 2016 #36

Do you consider Harvard law professor Laurence Tribe a nutter? nt 403Forbidden Jan 2016 #42

Do you think the courts would try and prevent someone with Cruz birth situation from the presidency? Bonx Jan 2016 #89

This seems ridiculous to me. A person recognized as a citizen without Yo_Mama Jan 2016 #44

Well we know for a fact that their are two types of Citizens... 403Forbidden Jan 2016 #45

Nothing in the Constitution can justify that theory. Nothing!!! Yo_Mama Jan 2016 #46

I didn't argue for, or against, any theory. I just said there is a legitimate question... 403Forbidden Jan 2016 #48

No. There is not a 'legitimate question". Even the lawyers agree they are merely arguing the points underahedgerow Jan 2016 #75

No one is arguing that Cruz is not a US Citizen... 403Forbidden Jan 2016 #76

There is a question as to whether or not Cruz' mother is an American citizen leftofcool Jan 2016 #77

It doesn't. He was born to a US citizen, therefore he is entitled to run for the office of President underahedgerow Jan 2016 #79

I agree leftofcool Jan 2016 #87

I have no idea if he's kosher to be President... Bigmack Jan 2016 #47

One wonders if he'd pick a horrible running mate like tRump KamaAina Jan 2016 #49

If he gets the nomination someone will take it to the "Supreme Court" and we all know the demosincebirth Jan 2016 #57

So nobody born via cesarean, either? X_Digger Jan 2016 #69

Delightful Karma Mnpaul Jan 2016 #74

I have the feeling that the Republicans yuiyoshida Jan 2016 #80

They only care when a black democrat who was born in the USA. Republicans B Calm Jan 2016 #85

Well they Hate Obama yuiyoshida Jan 2016 #88

As a fellow Calgarian, I will be soooo disappointed if they arthritisR_US Jan 2016 #81

Professor Tribe called Cruz... 3catwoman3 Jan 2016 #82

CNN was talking to a Harvard Law professor of Cruz's about applegrove Jan 2016 #90