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In reply to the discussion: Europe - migrants - Cologne attacks - The comments section on this Guardian article... [View all]sibelian
(7,804 posts)THAT is the problem, and comparisons to other paedophile rings are irrelevant to that process as THOSE rings are protected by different structures. There is no "sliding scale" of visibility here in which certain rings are preferable targets for scrutiny based on the ethnicity of the ring - all paedophile rings are morally equal as far as I'm concerned and structures protecting them are to be removed. This means the propensity for attributing racist motives to people alerting the state, the general public and Western civilisation at large to the presence of paedophile rings because the alerts are being directed at individuals already at risk from far-right elements must END, because it is more important that children are safe from sexual abuse than that the left retains its public image for the sake of a national conversation on Islam.
Alerts to the existence of the Rotherham abusers were circumvented by the left wing inability to distinguish between truthful accusations of criminality from fiction. We KNOW this is the case because the authorities to which the crimes were alerted HAVE SAID SO. They have admitted the problem. This process emerges because some elements within the left wing think Muslims are not people, with the same capacity for good and evil as every other human on the planet, but rather thinks of them as small, helpless, brown human-shaped lumps of plasticine that fit nicely into the heroic narratives that make individual liberals feel good about themselves in the process of protecting them. This is utterly impossible to deny now. We have moved from Rotherham to COLOGNE with the SAME ATTITUDE INTACT.
Clearly I am NOT being unnecessarily alarmist as the culture that prevented alerts to the Rotherham abuse is extant, in evidence and self-protecting, anyone can see this from the response to the culture clash between misogynistic Islam and Western liberalism during the reporting on Cologne. Cologne WAS NOT REPORTED ON in the liberal media in the UK and elsewhere until it was impossible NOT to report it. This is an extension of the culture that enabled Rotherham. The left MUST accept responsibility for this enabling process and must END IT.
Criticism of Islam is NOT somehow inherently right-wing. Do not confuse me with Nick Griffin, thanks, although to be frank I'm almost at the stage now of wondering if such comparisons would be all that insulting given that that guy started talking about Rotherham before anyone else and correctly identified the problems, this makes criticism of him less valid and any vague unwholesomeness we're all supposed to attribute him with less meaningful. I think he is an idiot. But, he started talking about Rotherham before anyone else. It is becoming difficult for me to continue holding the position that he is a purely malevolent idiot. We now CANNOT avoid considering what the situation in Rotherham might have been had he been listened to. Can we?
Blameless Muslims must be protected from bigotry, but I am not protecting Islam to the extent that its followers use the generalised hesitancy of the liberal West to cause offense as cover under which to commit grotesque crimes of abuse and I am NOT going to be told that I'm being "unnecessarily alarmist" as this deep and abiding need to protect people who have not even been established as actually having escaped a warzone has clearly resulted in increased levels of sexual abuse, and, recently, in Hamburg, Helsinki and Cologne, as well as other cities, has enabled public sexual abuse on an unprecedented scale.
Do you understand me? The reticence to attribute the blatantly obvious misogyny that we all seem to think is OK "over there" in the ME, has enabled sexual abuse in the West. Pretending these men will come to the West with all-new attitudes towards women is farcical in the face of it. I'm not talking about the imaginary pogrom against Islam. There ISN'T ONE. The pogrom is IMAGINARY. There is NO CRUSADE. No-one in the West is seriously trying to eradicate Islam. New mosques are built yearly. The idea that Muslims in the West are oppressed is a farce. It's just false. I'm talking about the increased prevalance of sexual abuse in Europe because of the thoroughly bugfuck insistence of some on the left who refuse to believe that people from a society that find women, gay people and Jews inferior will continue to do so in the West as if Western culture just transfers itself from mind to mind by osmosis. It obviously doesn't. If it did, we wouldn't be talking about Rotherham, Helsinki and Cologne. Doesn't it strike you as slightly peculiar that all these attacks in different cities occurred at the same time, incidentally? Or is that just a coincidence?
UKIP is supported mostly by ex-left wing people. These are people who should be voting Labour. They aren't anymore.
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