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In reply to the discussion: The Bundy Takeover of the Malheur Refuge. [View all]passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)37. Yes
Among them is Scott Woods, a militia leader from West Virginia who said Payne's behavior as the militia coordinator at the Bundy ranch gave him pause when he heard Bundy and Payne's call to action in Oregon.
"He absolutely did not want the situation up there at the Bundy ranch to end," Woods said. "He was doing everything he could to stir things up when they were de-escalating."
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/oregon_occupation_leader_ryan.html#incart_big-photo
I think the FEDS know these guys want this to blow up and bring more militants out of the woodwork. Many militants have already refused to side with this armed occupation because they think it goes too far. The kinds of zealots who are leading this (Ryan and Bundy) are really willing to die to win. They won't negotiate. They won't even honor their word. Winning is what it's all about. And how many people need to die for the cause of a few zealots?
I am as upset as anyone that this is stretching out so long, but I don't want to see bloodshed.
I think the FEDs know what they are doing, and they are trying to prevent more militants from joining the group because "martyrs".
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Exactly! The Koch empire and similar would love it privatized, then they can take it all over.
RKP5637
Jan 2016
#86
They go after the soft targets to exercise authority! Black people, brown people, OWS, LGBT and
RKP5637
Jan 2016
#78
There's something going on, far far more than we are being told. It's weird and concerning. n/t
RKP5637
Jan 2016
#84
What's also strange is how it's ignored by MSM. OWS beatings were non-stop coverage. This, gets
RKP5637
Jan 2016
#88
So, are they saying that if we want to successfully demonstrate, we can carry guns and we will never
world wide wally
Jan 2016
#2
This is a very interesting question. It seems they have essentially taken themselves hostage,
enough
Jan 2016
#8
There is something going on and the citizens are not being told. They may have and I missed
RKP5637
Jan 2016
#92
I get the same impression that there is more connection and protection going on behind the scenes.
Ford_Prefect
Jan 2016
#10
there is no standoff. they come and go as they please do what they want with the blessing of
msongs
Jan 2016
#11
I did not call you a conspiracy theorist...but this whole concept of big money
passiveporcupine
Jan 2016
#99
While it is not fair that POC with guns and liberal activists without guns are treated differently
passiveporcupine
Jan 2016
#91
They are trying to prevent another Waco, which has been a rallying cry for the nutball set ever
stevenleser
Jan 2016
#32
First, it was supposed to be winter. Now it's going to be spring? By then, they will have...
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2016
#128
Not only that but now they are bulldozing Native American sites and looting.
blackspade
Jan 2016
#69
If you were a law enforcement official, bona fide, the real deal, what would you propose?
underahedgerow
Jan 2016
#120
Cut off their water supply, food and electricity. Road blocks so nobody can go in or out.
Rex
Jan 2016
#122
At what risk though? Do you want good, decent law enforcement people to be put at genuine
underahedgerow
Jan 2016
#133
So the risk of letting them do what they want is less a risk than them building up into an army?
Rex
Jan 2016
#136
Please edit out the word Oregon from the OP. Thanks from everyone in Oregon. #BundyTeaParty
L. Coyote
Jan 2016
#121