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beevul

(12,194 posts)
17. No, this is what happens when people with an agenda like you jump to conclusions.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 01:55 PM
Feb 2016

We don't know if the device itself was even the problem. I grant that it is possible that it may not have been vented right.

It could very well have been the battery itself that was the problem. Being a person who has been using this exact format of battery (18650) daily for over 2 years, same as the device in the OP uses, I feel I might have some useful insight which others who have no experience buying/using them can not have.

First, we don't know if he was using a decent brand battery, like a Panasonic, or a cheap off brand. We also don't know whether it was a counterfeit brand name - counterfeiting in 18650 batteries is common, and dangerous.

Second, and equally important, we don't know what he was using for a charger. Was he using a decent quality charger? It actually does matter.

Third, we don't know if he was using the correct battery type within the format. Was it a completely unprotected battery? We don't know.

All those things matter greatly where the 18650 battery format is concerned.

Furthermore, this happened in Canada, so it applies to the US not at all, as far as "selling to kids". Theres a metric shit-ton of unknowns here, and you're jumping to conclusions. The moral panicing is trying very hard to get out, I see. Here, let me help you keep it contained:



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Either he pushed his battery past its limits meow2u3 Jan 2016 #1
Lol, ok. Nt Logical Jan 2016 #10
Yeah, blame the victim. Nope, the products should be user-proof. pnwmom Feb 2016 #14
Is your car userproof? beevul Feb 2016 #19
If my airbag exploded in my face during normal use, the manufacturer would be liable. pnwmom Feb 2016 #21
What stops YOU, the USER from putting the wrong battery in the car? N/T beevul Feb 2016 #24
Misuse and malfunction are not the same things. Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #2
CIA apologizes PeoViejo Jan 2016 #3
Those are worthless Egnever Jan 2016 #4
Mechanical mods don't have short circuit protection meow2u3 Jan 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Egnever Feb 2016 #12
Not exactly correct. beevul Feb 2016 #18
I will take my chances with properly using my Aspire Nautalis Marrah_G Jan 2016 #5
Congratulations!!!!! nt. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #23
Lithium batteries without control electronics... What could go wrong? hunter Jan 2016 #6
The FAA is right to be concerned, they've brought down a 747. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #11
Yup. A Mech mod. beevul Jan 2016 #7
This is what happens when manufacturers profit off unsafe devices pnwmom Feb 2016 #15
No, this is what happens when people with an agenda like you jump to conclusions. beevul Feb 2016 #17
It is legal in Canada to sell them to kids, but it shouldn't be anywhere. pnwmom Feb 2016 #20
You don't know the first thing about nicotine addiction from vaping. N/T beevul Feb 2016 #25
People can get addicted to nicotine from vaping. That is a fact. n/t pnwmom Feb 2016 #28
Again, you wouldn't know the first thing about it. N/T beevul Feb 2016 #29
The Center for Disease Control says that the nicotine in vaping can cause addiction. pnwmom Feb 2016 #30
Uh huh. beevul Feb 2016 #31
Right. So the nicotine user knows more about addiction than the researchers pnwmom Feb 2016 #33
A former heavy smoker whos personally experienced nicotine addiction... beevul Feb 2016 #36
The CDC bases its conclusion on medical research. You used the vaping pnwmom Feb 2016 #38
Provide it. beevul Feb 2016 #39
There is a ton of research here. Have fun. pnwmom Feb 2016 #41
Strange that you are so relucting to provide and cite the relevent parts. beevul Feb 2016 #43
There is too much to cite. Plenty to read, though. n/t pnwmom Feb 2016 #44
You said this. beevul Feb 2016 #46
What is the precise and relevant difference LanternWaste Feb 2016 #35
The precise and relevent difference is extremes. beevul Feb 2016 #37
I am not an "anti-vape extremist." I think it could be a great tool for pnwmom Feb 2016 #40
Yes you are. beevul Feb 2016 #45
So your facts are merely anecdotal evidence resulting in an allegation. LanternWaste Feb 2016 #42
Laughable. beevul Feb 2016 #48
Cloudchasing pokerfan Feb 2016 #49
Perhaps this picture and story SheilaT Jan 2016 #8
Still safer than smoking. Glassunion Feb 2016 #13
As far as I'm concerned the posibility of exploding is the least frightening this about these Sen. Walter Sobchak Feb 2016 #16
Buying anything you ingest from China is stupid Marrah_G Feb 2016 #26
I vape and I buy only American made products phleshdef Feb 2016 #47
Ty... Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #22
People who vape have... beevul Feb 2016 #32
Let me rephrase..."Quit the nicotine addiction" Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #34
It's what happens when any lithium battery malfunctions jberryhill Feb 2016 #27
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