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Occulus

(20,599 posts)
60. Your life could be destroyed.
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 05:27 PM
Jun 2012

Let me spell it out for you. Your neighbor, a lifelong friend who visits often, is secretly cooking up batches of meth. They are under surveillance by police. They spill some in your car without knowing it, or maybe in your bathroom by accident. The "how" is unimportant.

The police come to your house, search it, and bring drug dogs, which promptly alert on its presence. Congratulations- your nightmare has begun.

All because of guilt by association. And yes, innocent people have been shot and killed in drug raids. You simply can't not know that.

Disgusting. We need the media to expose the distortions Vattel Jun 2012 #1
no change. Warren Stupidity Jun 2012 #2
May I hit the alert button for truth telling? I'm tempted. n/t 2on2u Jun 2012 #3
Just like that door gunner in "Full Metal Jacket". If the run they're V.C. If they brewens Jun 2012 #4
Kick. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #5
Lesson here... Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #6
What? Are you joking? Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #7
No, why? Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #8
Absolutely no evidence to support that claim. None. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #9
"suspected terrorist"? Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #12
You do realize that classifying military age males nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #28
Yes zappaman Jun 2012 #110
I wonder how many number two men AQ actually has jmowreader Jun 2012 #107
More like Life Long Dem(agogue) - n/t coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #89
All military-age males in a strike zone are combatants - that's their association WriteWrong Jun 2012 #10
So if a terrorist walks by you and a drone hits him and kills you in the process Zalatix Jun 2012 #11
You are joking. Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #13
My response was the LOGICAL consequence of your argument. Zalatix Jun 2012 #16
I believe they are much more careful than what you portray. Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #49
Shit in one hand and 'believe' in another and see which fills up first. Kill 'em all coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #90
the qaida are the red targets. associates are orange tiny elvis Jun 2012 #95
CAREFUL?!!! LOL!!! Tell that to the weddings that got hit by summary execution bombs. Zalatix Jun 2012 #96
Yes, a hit wouldn't happen in a market, or wedding, or anything like that NickB79 Jun 2012 #42
Hits have happened in shopping malls, or do brown women and children shoppers not count? sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #59
Well, they didn't respond to post 47, Occulus Jun 2012 #62
Lol, well anyone who decides to take the position they are taking here, considering how sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #66
Ah, well at least you say it openly it won't happen to 'others like me'.... Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #69
"So called civilians"? Really? Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #41
Um...EVERYONE is now a presumed Enemy Combatant until proved innocent kenny blankenship Jun 2012 #102
Yes, I just don't run into people that don't understand what a bad idea it is, Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #108
You understand why guilt by association is...oh never min why bother reasoning Puregonzo1188 Jun 2012 #76
And where is the proof that these people are terrorists? Zalatix Jun 2012 #14
Where is the proof that they are not terrorists? Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #15
Guilt by association rarely gets the right people Occulus Jun 2012 #17
It's different with those pesky brown people. Zalatix Jun 2012 #19
This one pulled the same shit the last time this was posted. Occulus Jun 2012 #23
Let me explain this in as simple English as I can Zalatix Jun 2012 #18
What courts? This is a war. Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #21
So? Zalatix Jun 2012 #25
Lets just fight them over there in the Middle East first. Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #37
That is exactly what Bush said. white_wolf Jun 2012 #46
Fight them over there? Fight whom? Zalatix Jun 2012 #98
It is? What war is it and when was it declared? Oh, that's right, Bush's bullshit war on "terror". HiPointDem Jun 2012 #36
That line was tried before, back in 1946. NickB79 Jun 2012 #50
I have a feeling this one does not believe in the concept of war crimes Occulus Jun 2012 #56
That's what Bush said. I thought he was a liar. In fact, he was. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #61
If your neighbor is a meth dealer, Occulus Jun 2012 #20
Have we declared a war on meth heads? Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #22
It's called the war on drugs by people who don't live under rocks. Occulus Jun 2012 #24
What are you talking about? Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #27
Id one of your neighbors is dealing drugs, you are on them. Occulus Jun 2012 #31
You make no sense. Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #34
Yet both are guilt by association, which you mentioned in post 15. Occulus Jun 2012 #39
What do they say? Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #40
It is if youre in your car and they have something in their pocket. Occulus Jun 2012 #51
So this eliminates my neighbors anyway. Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #53
One of your neighbors, in your car, coming to or going from your street. Occulus Jun 2012 #55
I'm fine with guilt by association with my neighbors. Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #58
Your life could be destroyed. Occulus Jun 2012 #60
I know how things (courts) work. Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #65
Lucky you 'I won't be getting shot on sight over some neighbor doing drugs' sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #63
Oh, the poor poor terrorists. Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #67
Having fun yet? sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #75
Yeah, I was a little bored today. Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #78
Oh come on, don't quit when you're losing, makes it too easy for the rest of us! sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #79
Who is losing? I don't feel like I'm losing. Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #80
Of course you don't! Lol! sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #83
Maybe you should have a protest. Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #84
Where have I heard that before? Lol! sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #86
Being tired of something isn't exhaustion. Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #91
When did we become the world's hired hit man? Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #92
Since the terrorists declared war. Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #94
We are not killing people who are attacking us in Pakistan, Syria, or Yemen. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #99
What utter nonsense, terrorists cannot declare war. It's been quite a failure hasn't sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #104
They're killing children here in the US? sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #93
Yeah, it's there problem not ours. Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #100
Every country has that possibility, terrorism is as old as the human inhabited planet. So sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #103
Will you quit with the 300 to 1 bullshit? You got that from some anonymous idiot on yahoo answers. white_wolf Jun 2012 #97
I think we are wasting our time, to be honest. Occulus Jun 2012 #68
True, but it is an opportunity to practice. You can get rusty sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #73
Oh, my God. You've completely reversed things. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2012 #38
Fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here. Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #43
Except that your plan turns us into the very ones we're fighting against NickB79 Jun 2012 #48
But don't you understand? Occulus Jun 2012 #70
At his presser, Teh Obama laid it out succinctly: Terrorism is like Cooties. kenny blankenship Jun 2012 #101
If you want to fight them over there, why not sign up? AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #105
Timothy McVey purchased fertilizer from a farm supply store NickB79 Jun 2012 #47
That's silly. Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #74
Yes, it is, which is why he said "arrest" and not "blow away". Occulus Jun 2012 #81
Yes it is silly. We both agree on that. Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #82
What about when children are killed? morningfog Jun 2012 #54
Terrorists strap bomb vests to children, Occulus Jun 2012 #57
Here, let me help. We know all the talking points, so here's the usual one for that sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #72
WTF? RedCappedBandit Jun 2012 #44
See my thread in meta. Occulus Jun 2012 #64
This shit again? white_wolf Jun 2012 #45
Lifelong demagoguery. morningfog Jun 2012 #52
Just like all the terrorists in My Lai. In that other lost war also fought for PR. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #26
We should all remember, too, that if it weren't for the actions of one man... Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #30
There is a sad lack of such behavior in our current lost wars. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #32
"Thompson started receiving hate mail, death threats and mutilated animals on his doorstep." Zalatix Jun 2012 #35
He was a true hero. Thanks for reminding us again, they are so rare. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #77
This makes sense coming from a country that considers all black men to be drug dealing thugs and leeroysphitz Jun 2012 #29
Where is Mullah Omar? We went to Afghanistan for OBL and Mullah Omar. PufPuf23 Jun 2012 #33
Just shut up and support President Bush in what he has to do kenny blankenship Jun 2012 #71
+1 Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #88
Would we be better if we believe it? AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #106
Their crime was being "military-aged". The AP leaves a part of the story untold though... cherokeeprogressive Jun 2012 #85
Don't forget the latest category: "Terrorists disguised as children" - n/t coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #87
This is a war crime. Hawkowl Jun 2012 #109
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