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HughBeaumont

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8. See, that's the difference.

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:07 AM

Feb 2016

They successfully sold those candidates as moderates because there was either no internet or the American people didn't really know any better, they just saw the name "Bush" (that, and the Democrats just ran either weak opponents or, in Gore's case, horrible campaigns).

We're a lot more technologically involved and evolved. We can bring up a politician's past and damaging statements. There is no way any of these candidates can be sold as a moderate to have a broad appeal. America isn't the Sarah Palinized nation scared Democrats think it is.

I look at the GOP field and I don't see a single one that could seriously be president. Not ONE. They're all like Dan Quayle on steroids.

History practically fishes to find a good thing that happened during 43's reign of error. History is turning substantially on the Nixon and Reagan legacies. America realized they made a mistake with all three; mistakes so profound they aren't to be repeated.

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Anyone think Republicans are winning the Presidency? [View all] HughBeaumont Feb 2016 OP

Only if Hillary is our nom. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #1

A general hangup with Hillary is this: HughBeaumont Feb 2016 #7

I'm afraid that's wishful thinking on your part. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2016 #21

Really, cause I've seen polls that say different. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #22

You mean the reports on head-to-head matchups? Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2016 #24

I wasn't saying vox was 'the middle', I was saying the argument presented was an Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #26

No, I don't think *those* polls mean anything. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2016 #29

So wait, I have to only listen to your political scientists to know what the 'correct position' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #30

Wishful thinking is right the want a horse race. ohheckyeah Feb 2016 #87

And here's one with facts: Nevernose Feb 2016 #72

You very effectively undermine your own argument. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2016 #85

Exactly. Bernie's future poll #s are hypothetical Nevernose Feb 2016 #86

+1 LWolf Feb 2016 #78

I can guarantee two Democratic votes. In_The_Wind Feb 2016 #2

I guarantee zero if Hillary is the nom. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #66

They couldn't even figure out how to get to their podium newfie11 Feb 2016 #3

I saw that. HughBeaumont Feb 2016 #5

Only if the ' Third Way ' wins out or We elect a Dealer and not a leader. Do I think Trump will Win orpupilofnature57 Feb 2016 #4

Trump knew exactly what to say to win Republican votes and said it repeatedly. Bucky Feb 2016 #81

I agree orpupilofnature57 Feb 2016 #84

It's easy to make fun of them, but... TreasonousBastard Feb 2016 #6

See, that's the difference. HughBeaumont Feb 2016 #8

Gore actually won the 2000 election. ananda Feb 2016 #11

"History" has always been down on Reagan, Bush, and... TreasonousBastard Feb 2016 #12

Reagan was never sold as a moderate Reter Feb 2016 #34

There's too much of a demographic spike for that now though. 17 year olds now are extremely left and MillennialDem Feb 2016 #18

That would be good if it works out in practice. TreasonousBastard Feb 2016 #19

It will MillennialDem Feb 2016 #23

People always predict the end of the Republican party. former9thward Feb 2016 #45

I never said the end of the republican party - especially not at the state MillennialDem Feb 2016 #48

I assume you are ignoring all the head to head polling. former9thward Feb 2016 #49

And never bet awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #32

Their nominee is either going to be an obvious psychopath in Trump or RDANGELO Feb 2016 #9

If people vote, barbtries Feb 2016 #10

^^This. GreenEyedLefty Feb 2016 #16

And if we have a candidate to get excited about ... JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2016 #17

Actually I do. And this is how. PFunk1 Feb 2016 #13

No. rug Feb 2016 #14

We need the young voters to come out to put the icing on the cake. B Calm Feb 2016 #15

Rubio would probably beat Clinton, and anyone against except maybe Trump would beat Sanders. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2016 #20

How does Rubio get sold as a moderate? HughBeaumont Feb 2016 #25

Rubio NewJeffCT Feb 2016 #68

nope. 4dsc Feb 2016 #27

Don't underestimate edhopper Feb 2016 #28

What makes you think Trump's supporters don't know he wants to be a dictator? phantom power Feb 2016 #31

Absolutely, unless Trump is their nominee or runs third party Reter Feb 2016 #33

Who do either of our candidates lose to? Name that person, right now. HughBeaumont Feb 2016 #36

Only if they are running against Hillary will they win. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #35

Historically the WH changes parties every two terms or so nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #37

Past performance is no guarantee of future results. HughBeaumont Feb 2016 #38

I am just going over how Americans vote nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #40

ok..here goes after "lurking for years"! Macattack1 Feb 2016 #39

George Fucking Imbecile AWOL Bush was (s)elected over a Silver Star war hero. tabasco Feb 2016 #41

I never thought W could win a second election Marrah_G Feb 2016 #42

I do believe Bernie is our best hope madokie Feb 2016 #43

Forget the candidates. Their winning is based on dark money and voter suppression. kairos12 Feb 2016 #44

If Sanders is the nominee, it's another McGovern and we lose! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #46

Democrats are 1 for 5 in attempts for a third consecutive presidential term. karadax Feb 2016 #47

good analysis, except..... Skittles Feb 2016 #50

Slim chance of dems keeping the wh gwheezie Feb 2016 #51

I agree 100% n/t doc03 Feb 2016 #54

THERE. ARE. NO. SERIOUS. CANDIDATES. IN. THE. GOP. HughBeaumont Feb 2016 #64

Rubio, Kasich or Christie NewJeffCT Feb 2016 #70

Again I ask, HOW?? HughBeaumont Feb 2016 #73

Yes NewJeffCT Feb 2016 #75

Sadly I've seen "BernieBros" state if Sanders isn't the nominee justiceischeap Feb 2016 #71

If Sanders is our nominee Trump, Rubio, Cruz, Christy, Jeb doc03 Feb 2016 #52

I feel the same if Hillary is our nominee. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #58

Saw my first cartoon in the paper today with Bernie wearing a hammer and sickle doc03 Feb 2016 #59

Yes and I have seen a lot of so called Democrats pushing that crap here n/t doc03 Feb 2016 #60

I need an explanation for the last three. HughBeaumont Feb 2016 #63

We are economic jolt, exploitable terrorist threat, or big Dem candidate mistake away from GOPER win Hoyt Feb 2016 #53

Never under estimate the stupidity of the American electorate. yourout Feb 2016 #55

The Republicans may very well win the Presidency... Mike Nelson Feb 2016 #56

Republicans don't win. madamesilverspurs Feb 2016 #57

Okay, I'm not a political scientist or a learned academic mikehiggins Feb 2016 #61

I'm of the opinion that it will be difficult for the Republicans to nominate a successful candidate Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2016 #62

I don't think the Repubs can win it, but the Dems can DEFINITELY lose it... Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #65

I agree with this Blasphemer Feb 2016 #67

Turnout is everything. HughBeaumont Feb 2016 #74

While it's not always analgous NewJeffCT Feb 2016 #69

Not sure get the red out Feb 2016 #76

Then there are those here who say that they won't vote for the nominee. longship Feb 2016 #77

This isn't a commentary on the Primaries. HughBeaumont Feb 2016 #80

IMHO, it is a shortcut to GOP victory. longship Feb 2016 #83

I think this year will be great year for a 3rd party run, a moderate reformer Bucky Feb 2016 #79

At the end of a two term Democratic President, Republicans have an advantage. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #82