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The2ndWheel

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13. When you say context
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 06:07 AM
Feb 2016

Do rape stats in the US have discussion helping context? When you say it's not meant as an excuse for crimes, isn't that the same thing said by misogynist types in every country? Yeah, it's bad, but...etc, etc, etc.

Whatever it is that this Europe situation is, it does create an interesting context. If the refugees are a product of the West, and with America being the prime driver of the West at this point, then America is in a way exceptional. America is the center of the world. At the same time, everyone says that America isn't that. But, it's the cause of every problem. But, it's not the center of the world.

Life is subjective. We all use whatever argument we need to use to make our points. If we agree with X, then we can justify and rationalize it. If we disagree with X, then we can find a way to not justify or rationalize it. We all do it. If we didn't there would be no such thing as arguments. Everything would be simple, easy, and everyone would agree.

When you say adapt, do you mean abandon all that gives them identity?


Same with this. This question could be asked of the people in Europe, or the refugees. The question of adaptation is always an interesting one. Who has to adapt to a given situation more? How is it done? What's the standard being adapted to? Who gets to set the standard? It's really one of the most basic questions in human society, going back to the very first groupings of humanity.

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Sadly, people refuse to get it. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Feb 2016 #2
People hate the homophobia and misoginy Matrosov Feb 2016 #10
"People on DU don't hate all Muslims" Denzil_DC Feb 2016 #11
Yes, trawl away and prove it. melman Feb 2016 #15
Nah. Denzil_DC Feb 2016 #17
If you had even acknowledged the LGBT and women's issues the other poster cited I might not Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #28
Whatever. Denzil_DC Feb 2016 #32
And I've no idea if what I just wrote above Denzil_DC Feb 2016 #35
Well said. romanic Feb 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Feb 2016 #19
While yet others simply use that as a convenient mechanism LanternWaste Feb 2016 #22
No different malaise Feb 2016 #5
Not just the West as Aleppo proves. n/t pampango Feb 2016 #6
True but the refugee crisis from the ME began during the Iraq war and malaise Feb 2016 #8
Russian bombs are 'the West'? Or are Russian bombs the good bombs? Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #29
Is it three or four Western powers bombing up Syria? n/t malaise Feb 2016 #30
How can anyone deny the similarities between anti-semitism in the 30s and the Arab world today?? GummyBearz Feb 2016 #20
A large part of the problem, I think....... WillowTree Feb 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Feb 2016 #4
Excellent post malaise Feb 2016 #9
Well who are the immigrants here? davidn3600 Feb 2016 #31
"When you say adapt, do you mean abandon all that gives them identity?" WillowTree Feb 2016 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Feb 2016 #21
When you say context The2ndWheel Feb 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Feb 2016 #23
Good thread, thanks. Rec'd. Hortensis Feb 2016 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Feb 2016 #36
Yes. cwydro Feb 2016 #7
I hesitated to chime in, but i am going to anyway Marrah_G Feb 2016 #14
"The problem has to be looked at from all sides so that solutions can be found that actually work " pampango Feb 2016 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Feb 2016 #25
But we do also have to acknowledge that there are groups acting badly Marrah_G Feb 2016 #37
These groups are criminals. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #39
Thank you. Denzil_DC Feb 2016 #33
Thank you :) Marrah_G Feb 2016 #38
Yep. And, it's as obvious as Trump's tirades about Mexican immigrants. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Feb 2016 #26
Too true. And, the xenophobia is justified using the same language. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #27
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