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hfojvt

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96. we clearly have several fundamental disagreements
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 05:52 PM
Feb 2016

I think that kind of punishment for that kind of crime is far, far too severe, while you say "rightly so" to very harsh punishments. Then you say "Manning lied about the original assault". Yeah, and that would be because even at the time the penalty would have likely been very severe.

Take an example from my own life. One day my supervisor was talking about some missing candy with his supervisor. I happened to be walking by or was part of some other conversation. She said "It was probably taken by somebody who's fat" and reaches over and pokes me in the belly. To me, that rises to about the same level as what Manning did. She did not have permission to touch me like that. Nor is it copacetic for somebody to make disparaging comments about my gut and also accuse me of stealing based on nothing except the opportunity that dozens of people had.

Is that worth making a federal case out of? I certainly did not even try. It wasn't good, but it also was not that big of a deal. I took a whole lot more abuse from that psychotic supervisor, and I did not see any policy that would protect me. There was a policy against sexual harassment, but not against just plain harassment. I sat at home one night dreading going to work and I realized "I am in an abusive relationship. I am being verbally abused every day, and since I need this job, I cannot just walk away from it."

Of course, if you fast forward about three years, this same person, who was now a department head, was threatening to write me up because some whiny little pissant in the IT department had complained about an email I sent him. Apparently it was unprofessional for me to talk about my great great grandfather or something. (and to make a minor joke. I have this problem that I want people to call me Thomas and everybody calls me Tom. I said I am going to start chopping the end off of everybody else's name - that's only fair. So I called him Ad instead of Adam, and that was apparently a serious crime.)

Also, I might note that after her $300,000 settlement, she went on to another high paying job (which apparently got wrecked by the book - which lead to her getting another settlement of who knows how much).

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The fact that Payton Manning is a piece of shit does not make Cam Newton any less of one tularetom Feb 2016 #1
Why is Cam a POS? marmar Feb 2016 #3
As a rule, I'm not a fan of arrogant assholes tularetom Feb 2016 #9
You obviously know absolutely NOTHING about Cam Newton. (nt) Elwood P Dowd Feb 2016 #12
I know what I see tularetom Feb 2016 #13
Well, you've admitted you know nothing other than what you've gleaned from four playoff games. Maedhros Feb 2016 #78
Agreed randys1 Feb 2016 #27
Do you know anything about him? cwydro Feb 2016 #64
And you just told a bunch of whoppers! Elwood P Dowd Feb 2016 #69
Bullshit. cwydro Feb 2016 #71
Where is your proof? Elwood P Dowd Feb 2016 #72
Lol, no, I do not hate Cam Newton. cwydro Feb 2016 #73
I have the advantage of an inside source. Elwood P Dowd Feb 2016 #74
Ooooh! "An inside source." cwydro Feb 2016 #75
I doubt the author of The White Man's Burden and the Jungle Book is a big influence on Cam. LeftyMom Feb 2016 #81
I thought Von MIller was Cam's biggest problem. Drahthaardogs Feb 2016 #85
Because he's retiring. Brickbat Feb 2016 #4
Cam and Brady apologists unite! n/m ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2016 #6
Brady? He's worse than both of them tularetom Feb 2016 #10
Oh, I agree ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2016 #15
Rather have a lukewarm-GOP-supporting football deflater Arkana Feb 2016 #51
Of course he is sharp_stick Feb 2016 #18
go to young turks. THey discuss it in detail. He's got an AA problem, he hates gay people and he's roguevalley Feb 2016 #77
Who Are You Talking About erpowers Feb 2016 #79
I hate drop does. it's Manning I am speaking of roguevalley Feb 2016 #83
Apollo landing really a fictional tale filmed in Hollywood? lunatica Feb 2016 #2
That was a popular conspiracy theory Greybnk48 Feb 2016 #11
Meh - Shaun King pintobean Feb 2016 #5
Forget Shaun King. There's an affidavit. . . DinahMoeHum Feb 2016 #22
We must indeed, quickly dismiss and minimize the existence of the sworn affidavit LanternWaste Feb 2016 #38
We? pintobean Feb 2016 #41
It wasn't Shaun King that did it for me. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #48
It's the NFL sarisataka Feb 2016 #7
Then why do players get suspended for HGH NobodyHere Feb 2016 #65
He once "mooned" the other teams fans from the team bus SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #8
Dancing after a touchdown is way worse Alenne Feb 2016 #14
Not a fan of Manning Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #16
So I can say a heartfelt FU to all the Brady haters? RiffRandell Feb 2016 #17
No. Tom Brady has a child out of wedlock. . . DinahMoeHum Feb 2016 #21
So having a child "out of wedlock" makes Brady a POS? maveric Feb 2016 #23
It just means he ain't no all-American choirboy, either. DinahMoeHum Feb 2016 #24
What about Bridget? RiffRandell Feb 2016 #26
Why didn't Brady wear a condom? DinahMoeHum Feb 2016 #30
Because SwankyXomb Feb 2016 #32
Touche! Love it! DinahMoeHum Feb 2016 #33
So you are blaming the woman and the man for having RiffRandell Feb 2016 #35
They Were Dating erpowers Feb 2016 #82
Has Her Own Money erpowers Feb 2016 #80
No fucking shit! RiffRandell Feb 2016 #25
It's a problem if Cam Newton does it, apparently ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2016 #55
Didn't Brady wheniwasincongress Feb 2016 #63
Dude's crazy.... TipTok Feb 2016 #76
Didn't he knock up two women at the same time? madinmaryland Feb 2016 #28
Yeah, that never happens! RiffRandell Feb 2016 #36
Who is Peyton Manning? hunter Feb 2016 #19
I didn't know until a few weeks ago. Populist_Prole Feb 2016 #45
Entitled scumbag. nt B2G Feb 2016 #20
Now, now OldHippieChick Feb 2016 #29
Damn abelenkpe Feb 2016 #31
Imagine if a black QB like Cam Newton had done this. Elwood P Dowd Feb 2016 #34
I've read the entire document, and apparently, Rollo wanted her to blame it on a black player. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #37
Did you ever make a really dumb mistake while in college? GummyBearz Feb 2016 #39
I thought this too, and then I read the documents and how her career was ruined and ... ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #40
He's always seemed like an extreme phony to me. HuckleB Feb 2016 #42
I confess, when I first heard of it, I thought it was a bit much. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #43
You must have stopped reading the article Oilwellian Feb 2016 #59
LOL... Folks still believe in "squeaky clean" athletes? Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #44
I don't know what you mean by "haters" here. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #47
I'm not accusing you... Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #49
For me, it has nothing to do with King and everything to do with the documents. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #50
And I while I maintain Manning deserves the criticism coming his way Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #54
I hate his guts. I don't follow sports at all but Manning is all over the commercial world and Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #46
I live in Indy & he damn near walks on water ... Myrina Feb 2016 #70
Manning is an insufferable corporate whore and an absolute phoney. PeteSelman Feb 2016 #52
"Titled "Facts of the Case," and submitted to the court by the plaintiff's lawyers" jberryhill Feb 2016 #53
That was my thought too. NaturalHigh Feb 2016 #67
I always liked Eli better anyway. n/t. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #56
Archie Manning (dad) tried to smear the trainer by claiming she was bullwinkle428 Feb 2016 #57
And not surprisingly, it turns out King was sloppy and slanted in his work Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #58
You posted nothing but smears of Shaun King Oilwellian Feb 2016 #60
So Florio is wrong? Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #87
As usual. /nt pintobean Feb 2016 #61
I Always Cringe When People SDJay Feb 2016 #62
in some ways the article is funny hfojvt Feb 2016 #66
If true, it is sexual assault mrs_p Feb 2016 #86
The question is whether Manning's reputation should be stellar Major Nikon Feb 2016 #95
we clearly have several fundamental disagreements hfojvt Feb 2016 #96
So having someone's anus forced into your face is the same as getting poked in the belly by a finger Major Nikon Feb 2016 #97
It's written by her lawyer in a lawsuit against Manning. NaturalHigh Feb 2016 #68
How many times does Manning have to be busted for lying, before his "side" becomes irrelevant? Major Nikon Feb 2016 #84
You've just verified about half of my opinion on this case. NaturalHigh Feb 2016 #88
Paid Off? ProfessorGAC Feb 2016 #89
Thank you for being the semantics police. I'll stick with "paid off." NaturalHigh Feb 2016 #90
You Don't Need Semantics Lessons ProfessorGAC Feb 2016 #94
Very well said. The besmirching of this woman has reached epic levels... ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #92
It's very telling when someone completely reverses the relationship between perpetrator and victim Major Nikon Feb 2016 #93
He was a piece of shit then, and he's still a piece of shit Major Nikon Feb 2016 #91
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